A Roman God, a New Year, a Paycheque a Sports Jacket and that thing called football!


Neepheid says: Friday, January 18, 2013 at 17:17 TSFM gave everyone fair …

Comment on A Roman God, a New Year, a Paycheque a Sports Jacket and that thing called football! by bogsdollox.

neepheid says:
Friday, January 18, 2013 at 17:17

TSFM gave everyone fair warning. He said clearly that any posts on that subject would be considered OT and deleted. I rather stupidly strayed onto that subject in a subsequent post, and I expect it has been deleted, although I haven’t checked. If it has been deleted, I can’t complain, I was clearly warned.

So I really don’t understand why people are leaving the room. When I’m in someone else’s house, I try to follow their rules whether I agree with them or not. That’s just good manners. To those who decide to leave, good luck finding a better forum.

In my opinion the “ownership” of this blog lies with the people who contribute and read it not with TSFM and the mods.

Ok -HP was warned off writing about oldco/newco because the subject was becoming repetitive and stale but him posting a very well considered summary of the positions was not a reason to delete it. That option should only be exercised in very few circumstances.

We need to move to a new format where there can be a thread that deals only with oldco/newco issues where people can debate away if that is their interest and other threads that deal with other issues we are interested in.

I’m not disinterested in the oldco/newco debate(and for the record I subscribe to the newco theory) but I’m fed up reading the same points over and over on threads that are supposed to be about another issue.

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A Roman God, a New Year, a Paycheque a Sports Jacket and that thing called football!
Danish Pastry says:
Friday, January 18, 2013 at 14:30

That subject possibly needs a thread of its own. I feel I’ve read the arguments for and against ad nauseum. I know my own opinion. It’s not a complicated issue in my mind, and as bogs says, there’s been no new angle of late. Why is it so difficult to just change the subject for a bit?

The answer is: It doesn’t fit the agenda of many of the Celtic minded posters. It’s a my clubs older than yours mentality and a revelling in the demise of their bitter rivals. Meanwhile Babylon burns.

A Roman God, a New Year, a Paycheque a Sports Jacket and that thing called football!
Brenda says:
Friday, January 18, 2013 at 14:07

Missed HP post what was so wrong with it?

I’m assuming it was OT as it discussed the thorny issue of oldco/newco. TSFM has said we’ve not to talk about that anymore unless there is a development or a new angle.

You can’t say HP wasn’t warned. Acts of deliberate disobedience are punishable by censorship. Marvellous.

A Roman God, a New Year, a Paycheque a Sports Jacket and that thing called football!
HirsutePursuit says:
Friday, January 18, 2013 at 13:49

If LNS recommends repayment of SPL prize-money, CG may just see this as a price worth paying to artificially “fuse” the two clubs together.

If however, there was to be a suspension of the old Club’s SPL membership – which applied to the new club in a merged league body – you can be sure that CG will go to the courts to prove that his newly formed club has never been a Club and the SPL have no jurisdiction in imposing a punishment on his club for the sins of that (now deceased) Club.

I take your point re LNS being out on a limb – I think he is too. But should he rule on his principle and punishes Oldco & Newco and CG takes action that is the point where the Oldco/Newco debate will be resolved as CG will be arguing against everything he has said so far.

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The Stella Dallas of Europe
upthehoops 12th August 2021 At 12:55

Rightly or wrongly (and there is no right or wrong anyway), people IMO will not shell out £600+ on a season ticket knowing half of it goes to clubs who only bring a couple of hundred fans to their ground.

Or in other words, as an Old Firm fan I’m not willing to help finance any improvement in Scottish football because we are fine as we are and have no real interest in creating competition. Diddy clubs with a few hundred fans should be left to rot.

It’s a false assumption. If the entertainment spectacle improved people would want to be there and even if it didn’t they wouldn’t be the best fans in the world if they weren’t there to get right behind their team and cheer them all the way to Hampden.

Here we go again
What the hell has gone wrong at Sellik?
Not seeing a lot about it on here.

Fergus McCann v David Murray
I was looking at the Celtic financials earlier and they seem to confirm my earlier thoughts on this (which I was shot down for in the days of the Thumbs Up/Down on here).

As a reminder, I said that because of such large overheads and dependence on Euro “success” an interuption of income and failure in Europe could create a financial issue. Despite cash reserves of some £28m.

Roll it forward 7 months and the issue is crystalising. Income at Champions League level has gone and Europa League progression looks uncertain. Hospitality, retail sales etc are all down. Player sale income in the period is almost equalled by purchases. The club has increased its debt facility to fill a revenue gap.

Post the accounts year end significant amounts have been spent on new talent in an attempt to secure 10 in a row.

Don’t get me wrong Sevco are no more financially secure than Celtic. In fact they must be struggling too. I will expand more on that later.

So, as tradition demands I have dealt with the two most important clubs in Scotch football first. I just cross my fingers and hope all of the rest survive as best they can.


Fergus McCann v David Murray
Cluster One 26th October 2020 at 21:46

reasonablechap 26th October 2020 at 09:52
I stopped listening to Superscoreboard years ago when DJ said lets wait and see what Ally spends the £10 mill on. After Green announced Ally would get £10 mill to spend in the lower leagues, that was enough delusion for me.

Frank in a matter of fact way used the term, Old Firm. However about a second or two later Frank realised this was a huge mistake for a Celtic fan on live radio and frantically tried to take it back.
Reminds me of a child using a swear word that they have just grown accustomed to hearing. If it is going to get rammed down youth throat as often as possible of course you are going to repeat it now and again.
The serious point being is that there are many Whilst they know they have to utter certain names and try to keep the old firm band wagon going as a general policy…. deep down they know .But if they want to keep a job they have to stick to the prefered script.


For a time I took on the onerous task of listening to Superscrotesboard on behalf of youse all and reporting back the Shugisms and Big Del's amateur PR mutterings.

I lapsed for a time during Lockdown but tonight I listened in and as you say Cluster the policy of slipping in a TRFC reference as part of the general policy into the farrago of assininity that passes for a show broke fresh ground tonight when it was extended to the Quiz. I say quiz but really I mean a test of knowledge for IMBECILES (apologies to any imbeciles on here who just read that last sentence).

One of the questions was:

"Which club has won the League Cup the most times?

It was such an easy one even I got it right. There can only be one answer thought I, it's Celtic. Imagine my surprise when Quizmaster Gordon somebody or other said it was Rangers with 27 wins.

I exclaimed loudly at the radio "That can't be right they've never won anything except the Petrocrap Cup". Alex Rae got the question right.

I should also report on the Rangers fan from Wishaw who called in 6 months late to declare that last season should have been declared "Null and Void". To be fair to Compere/Quizmaster Gordon he did say "goodness me I know the clocks went back at the weekend but I didn't think they went back all the way to March".

That was not enough to deter the Lanarkshire Bluesman who stated that were the League to end early this year and Rangers were top "they" would not call it and give them the title. Paranoia is alive and well in the Covid Age.

More Later I'm sure

Fergus McCann v David Murray
easyJambo 12th October 2020 at 17:19

I don't consider the author's take as being any different from that of RTC and many others who have commented on RFC's responses to HMRC enquiries.

We have also come across the document's author George Turner, several times previously.  He wrote for the Tax Justice Network (TJN) and the Offshore Game. His views have been consistent throughout.


Indeed but my point was more about others on here also making a submission to the enquiry along the same lines but asking why HMRC did not pursue the fraud allegations.

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