A spectre is haunting Scottish Football

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Tcup 2012 says: November 21, 2014 at 11:25 pm …

Comment on A spectre is haunting Scottish Football by Big Pink.

tcup 2012 says:

November 21, 2014 at 11:25 pm

Curdy sorry to butt-in
But Peter Lawells job For CFC Plc
Is to maxamise profits
Pure and simple

His job in the board of the SPFL (or SFA can’t remember off hand which) is the Integrity of the game
PL made the statement as a CFC director not a SPFL representative
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I think Bryce’s point – and one with which I have some sympathy – is that he thinks that a Celtic Chief Executive’s role should include responsibility for sporting integrity and not only be concerned with the maximisation of profit. “The Celtic Way” and all that.

Of course, Lawwell did not make that singular claim himself – that was something that Ecobhoy – and not PL – said in the course of the discussion.

Whatever PL’s views on the matter, I really don’t care although I certainly have my suspicions that Ecobhoy is correct in his inference. What I am a bit troubled by is that our consensus seems to be under some pressure here.

If we agree that sporting integrity is paramount, I don’t see how we could defend ANY club official who thought it secondary to finance just because it’s his job to do so. A tricky one for me because PL has definitely not said those words – and I don’t know the exact context of what he did say about the Β£10m.

Conjecturing, my first reaction is that PL is smart enough, and the AGM managed well enough (think post Blair Labour Party conference) to avoid making statements he doesn’t need to. Therefore he probably wanted that remark about the Β£10m out there as Saturday morning headlines.

For background, I have asked people at Celtic about their attitude to “Rangers at all costs”, and (whilst one can never at any time accept at face value something a football person tells you) the response has been a unanimous, unqualified “we need these games – period”.

Others’ mileage may differ of course, but that is my experience and those are my conclusions.

I don’t think anyone here really believes that there is an earnest wish amongst the clubs for justice to be done. The work done by Auldheid and his team on the licence issue has definitely not mobilised any of the clubs to seek answers or redress, so I think I can safely say that the outrage and sense of injustice felt here is not shared by our clubs. Worse than that, I think it is scoffed at.

This all started as a movement to get justice for wrongs done by one club. In the course of that we have seen evidence of what we would call corruption of the rules and spirit of sport (and what the club financial people may justify as survival measures and call survivalism).

At the very best, Scottish Football is riddled with survivalism practiced by officials at club and national association levels. We can’t stand back and sneer at Rangers when our clubs will do nothing about it. I think we all have to look closer to home for explanations as to why this omnishambles has been uncontaminated with men of honour or integrity.

Maybe we also have to be realistic in terms of our own expectations.

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My apologies to the late Roy K. It is late after all and I was reminiscing – sitting in the half landing beside my box of Bronco, in the cold, looking up at the window of our warm living room πŸ™‚

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Didn’t Roy die in a horse-related accident?


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A half buried thought that has been around in my head since Ashley’s Keegan fiasco and the emergence of Roy Kinnear.

Kinnear is being mentioned in horror by the bears tonight, but we may remember that Dermot Desmond was also a champion of the wee wellied one (post Dalglish and pre O’Neill). Is there a connection?

Given the distaste for McDowell’s Celtic provenance on FF tonight (although in fairness there are more temperate heads contering that) what kind of reaction would we get if a connection existed?


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jean7brodie says:

December 21, 2014 at 10:14 pm

Big Pink says:

My mum used to put that toilet paper in our half landing toilet – just for me. Yes it was hard, but I WAS a cowhand after all
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You had two toilets?!!! Snob πŸ˜†

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Come to think of it, we had FOUR toilets. I think they keys fitted all of the half-landings πŸ™‚

To think they demolished those mansion closes πŸ™‚


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Were the clubs willing parties to a fraud on Scottish football, or were they victims themselves?

Both

If the former, that does beg the question as to whether there is any point in carrying on.

Yes there is – because the real battle here is between the clubs and their ‘customers’. The clubs can in fact do as they like. They have no emotional attachment to the sport in the way the fans do. Everything is settled by a cost/benefit analysis. This particular one deemed that following the rules correctly was the downside of the argument.

They justify it by dressing the SFA up as some kind of quasi legal guardian of the game, when in fact it is just a trade association – a cartel used as a blunt instrument to con the punters.

The Sevco 5088 Ltd/Sevco Scotland Ltd court cases may throw some light into the dark corners of Hampden’s Star Chamber.

So might we. We are still not done.
The evidence suggest strongly that the clubs are less concerned with the integrity of the game than we are.
The final outcome is dependent on our resolve. That is not in doubt at SFM. The question is;
“Are there enough of us?”


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John Clark 13th March 2016 at 1:11 pm
A priceless observation from Chick a few minutes go: ” Robert Burns died in 1796. He was closer in time to Hibs’ last Cup win than we are”.
Don’t know what point precisely he was trying to make, but it left the rest of the Sportsound chaps stunned in amused speechlessness!

I suppose that just demonstrates that Chic is as good at arithmetic as he is at telling the truth.

Give that he was born around 1954 that takes him to within 52 years of Hibs’ last cup win.

Burns is an outlier at 106 years.

Did anyone point out to Chic that it was in fact the League Cup today.

Chirpy chirpy cheep cheep indeed! 15


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Reiver

Apologies. Haven’t yet had time to respond, due to a current and very raging bout of man flu 05

However I will try to do so over the weekend.


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Jimbo,

Turnbull Hutton’s attitude to the new club being given precedence over Spartans et al was that by any reasonable measure, and given their extraordinary fan-base and facilities, TRFC would have been given the spot anyway. In his view, the authorities pragmatically exercised their powers of discretion to short-circuit the entry application process.

In retrospect that became crucial to TRFC in their continuity myth-building, because the gap, even though it existed, was easier to Band-Aid over because of that fast-tracking.

I won’t rush to criticise TH too easily though. He was not too fussed over the minutiae of the OCNC debate, but he was steadfastly against what he saw as corruption in the SFA and SPL and was appalled by the calling to arms of the mob by McCoist and others. And he didn’t just pay lip service to it either. He was a consistent and generous donor to SFM, because he shared our view that in order to call itself a sport, football had to structure itself on the basis of as level a playing field as possible.

Whenever I doubt the merits of our case, I  think of Turnbull on the steps of Hampden accusing the SFA of corruption – and the subsequent absence of a visit from the Compliance Officer.

Like all good serial offenders, the SFA avoid battles they can’t win. No engagement with TH, no engagement with the Res12 group, no engagement with the SPL over their expulsion of a 140 year old club.


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