A spectre is haunting Scottish Football


I think it could be convincingly argued that the greatest …

Comment on A spectre is haunting Scottish Football by Castofthousands.

I think it could be convincingly argued that the greatest losers in Rangers demise, other than Rangers themselves, is Celtic. It wasn’t called the Auld Firm for nothing. However from a sporting perspective it is understandable that a number of contributors will be perturbed by this comment made by Celtic’s Executive Director.

What is being inferred is that the rules of the sport can be distorted and that those disadvantaged by that distortion will be acquiescent in it taking place. This seems to me to indicate that there is a fundamental lack of balance in the integrity of the game.

A potential ruling against Real Madrid was mentioned earlier. If Madrid were found against and the result was that for a season or two there was no ‘El Clasico’, would Barcelona militate against such an outcome? Quite possibly they would since this fixture brings huge publicity to both clubs and the Spanish top tier in general. However, if I might be as coarse to draw the analogy (and please forgive me if I appear to trivialise an acute human trauma), is it not like a beaten wife pleading for clemency for her abusive husband?

If I might be so distasteful to extend the analogy, how do we now view such abusive relationships where in the past such calls for clemency might have been met with a sympathetic hearing? Do we not now recognise that such calls are misplaced since they create the danger of the whole cycle of events repeating themselves?

Discarding that perspective and coming back to the true situation, where Rangers are not as callous as I have suggested, is it not nevertheless true that there seems to be an asymmetry in this old Auld Firm relationship? Do Celtic need Rangers more than they realise is good for them?

As others have said, the realignment of the top tier of the SPFL has had benefits for a number of clubs but not all. Is that not would be expected in the natural course of events in competitive sport? Is mitigating the downside jeopardy really a sensible tactic to employ to maintain the sports health? Surely the moral of the story that has been written is that as soon as you begin to step away from ethics and principles you risk finding yourself in troubled waters.

Peter Lawwell is entitled to his opinion just as others are entitled to disagree with him.

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ianagain says:
December 19, 2014 at 10:13 pm

“Pretendygers the order shop not the fitba club.”
I’m trying to join the dots whereas you already have and coloured in the picture. Perhaps you could explain how this pieces together in a manner that even an idiot might understand?

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mcfc says:
December 18, 2014 at 5:32 pm

“Ah well, that filled a couple of quiet hours, even if some of us were moded for going of piste – don’t want the mods nodding off there”
On safer territory and for further amusement, a few exemplars of Mr. Stoichkov’s output.


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GoosyGoosy says:
December 18, 2014 at 5:24 pm

“If anybody is in the slightest doubt about the gullibility of TRFC fans they only need to read this comment on Resolutions 8 & 9 which are aimed directly at diluting the minorty shareholders which include several thousand Bears”
When I read the article neepheid drew attention to the naivety was shocking and the insight absent. I had mused to myself, given your regular postings on the matter and consistent outlook, what someone like yourself would have written up in response to these resolutions. You appropriately said very little, knowing you had said it all before.

We do at times appear to be talking to ourselves. However we are also listening to each other.

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Auldheid 24th February 2020 at 20:27

"Did the terms of the 5 Way in effect provide a pardon to “Rangers” for the crimes against Scottish football if Sevco paid for it and in accepting the 5 Way Agreement by not questioning it, were Celtic a part of that pardon or did Celtic expect a just outcome from LNS…"


This for me is the crux of the matter. A detailed OC/NC knowledge may illustrate to the sporting authorities that they haven't got away with it and better not try the same trick again but the average punter will struggle to grasp the nuance. The big picture is drawn with a crayon and not a stylus.

Title stripping would have sent a clear message but perhaps it risked opening up a spectrum of unknowns that may have proven difficult to marshal.

That title stripping could not be countenanced in certain quarters is unfortunate since surely this is only a game and should not be subject to intransigent boundaries; for that would make it politics or warfare.

Such intransigence tells of a deep underlying social psychology that I suspect all of us are blind to.

The 'take home' is that if you infringe the rules to the point that you overwhelm the available sanctions then you get no sanction at all, bar a disproportionately pitiful £250,000 fine. This is not a very good look.

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easyJambo 21st February 2020 at 10:29

“If there was an easy way of searching the RTC archive I would do it.”

I naively mused a few days ago that with Rangers apparently in financial traction and Celtic in possession of a burgeoning war chest then perhaps the team from the East end of Glasgow might rescue their historic brand partners and thus ensure a brighter financial outlook. 

Of course such a manoeuvre would undermine all manner of sporting integrity principles and would infringe football regulations designed to avoid such potential conflicts of interest.

Might this explain Lord Haughey’s vociferous defence of his character since even though his financial intervention would not have provided an immediate conflict (especially with Sir Walter fronting this ‘mythical’ bid), it might have muddied the waters of this festering rivalry in a manner that threatened to take the edge off the competition.

It just goes to show that even the most astute legal advice that Whyte could engage was liable to be found wanting in at least one significant area.

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easyJambo 17th February 2020 at 00:54

“I wish I had retained a copy of all the documents posted by Charlotte Fakes. I did keep a few that I thought might be important down the line, but it’s an incomplete record of events.”

I have a cache on the hard drive retained from my last computer but they aren’t immediately accessible. I recalled from memory (eventually) the Andrew Ellis/Chris Akers production strapline but the tweet in question said little more.

It would however appear that what you have lost on the swings you have gained on the roundabout since you have faithfully played out a thread through the labyrinthine perambulations of this saga which provides this blog and its affiliates with an indelible corporate memory of events.

My long absence from the blog leaves huge gaps in my knowledge that your response reveals. 

At the time Charlotte Fakeovers first emerged much conjecture was bandied concerning motives. I was going to ask you for a brief summary of CharlotteFakes motives but realised I should be doing my own research based on the information you have provided.

I stumbled across this document at the very threshold of my inquiries. I suspect it is not particularly significant but I haven’t sufficient knowledge to make that judgement. It may however be found interesting by you.


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easyJambo 16th February 2020 at 20:57

"Yes, that’s taken from the book.  I wasn’t overly familiar with the pre takover wheeling and dealing."


A formative Charlotte Fakeovers tweet credited Andrew Ellis and Chris Akers with orchestration of the Rangers shenanigans.

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Thomson appears to be inviting speculation. 

His tweet of 9 February states "Today it is Keith, Tarves, Braemar, Perth and back to Glasgow."

He recently tweeted something about Aviemore.

I thought White's Grantown -on-Spey pile had been repossessed?

What might any of this have to do with Celtic??

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