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Thewestlight says: August 9, 2012 at 22:17 You really don’t understand …

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thewestlight says:
August 9, 2012 at 22:17

You really don’t understand what is coming. Global capitalism is on its knees. There won’t be any costs to cut as everyone will be bankrupt. This is not a piddling little depression like 1929.
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I can go along with you on much of that. But clubs will only be bankrupt if they don’t cut costs and balance the books (RFC anyone?). And what do you think the talented players will do? Play football at say £500 a week, or work in Tescos for £250? I’m guessing they’ll all still be playing, so the quality of the football won’t be affected.

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thewestlight says:
August 9, 2012 at 21:27

I would advocate a football tax on all earnings to sustain our clubs through these terrible times. A 1% deduction an all earnings would be a small price to bear considering the alternative Armageddon which awaits.
All clubs could be loaned money at interest from the taxation revenue which would be repaid without any penalty for defaulting. This may sound drastic but drastic times call for drastic measures.
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How about just paying less to the players and that endless queue of coaches, scouts, managers, physios, agents, trainers, etc? Seems simpler to me. If income falls, cut costs.

Believe me, the quality of the football won’t suffer. In fact it could hardly get worse, despite all the money being thrown at it. It certainly won’t be Armageddon.

When top players got about double a miner’s or welder’s wage, we had some of the best players in the world. Now we apparently pay total donkeys 5k a week, and haven’t produced a world class player in 30 years. Time for a real change, I feel. Not a subsidy.


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Carl31 says:
August 9, 2012 at 17:21
“They have now been caught. When will they simply issue some form of acknowledgement of this? They didnt play the game fair and theyve been busted.”

The answer to your question is never. No matter what evidence is produced, they will never, ever, admit to doing anything wrong. They will point the finger everywhere else, they will look for “taigs” behind any move against them, they will construct the most laughable arguments as to why it wasn’t their fault, but they will never, ever admit anything, and they most certainly will never say sorry. Please don’t hold your breath for an apology, because that will certainly prove fatal. It is the nature of the beast, that’s how they are and how they think. They see absolutely nothing wrong with it. In fact they pity and despise anyone who would even think to say sorry when caught red handed. It is that mentality that is the curse of modern Scotland (OK, west of Scotland).

Nice story about the bools by the way. A bit of a sickener for any Spartans fan reading, though.


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jocky bhoy says:
August 9, 2012 at 16:10
Well the trolls did their job and we’re back on revenue sharing, aka Celtic fans providing income support to other teams. This has been discussed at length on the RTC blog, but I’m happy to dance the dance again…
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I do not agree that discussing revenue sharing is “trolling”. This forum is about Scottish football generally, and the way that revenue is shared out is fundamental to any debate on the future of the game in Scotland.

Football in Scotland has been destroyed by money over the last 30 years, and in my view, the whole structure now has to be rebuilt urgently. We need clear and fair rules applied equally to all, a viable structure that encourages home grown talent, and a business model that does not rely on sugar daddies. If Celtic have to build a team from the West of Scotland as a result, and forget the pricey imports, then I’m OK with that. It has worked out just fine before.

Maybe home gates should be split, or maybe not. I’ve not made my mind up on that one, but I appreciate the arguments on both sides. Raising that question is quite simply not trolling, however. It is On Topic so far as I am concerned, unless I’ve completely misunderstood the purpose of this forum, of course.


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douglas brown says:
September 16, 2012 at 13:05
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Hi Angus

I just your post regards TU and TD, you are correct absolute incoming, yet no explanation
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Can you repost this in English, Scots, or some known language, please?


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Castofthousands says:
September 16, 2012 at 08:53

Why did RFC (IA..IL) withold details of contractual payments made via EBT’s from the SFA by not including them in player contracts?
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SDM has being telling anyone who will listen for years now that all and any EBT payments were non-contractual.

He is saying that for a reason. If he admits that he knew or believed the payments to be contractual, then by not declaring tax on them, he opens himself and the others involved at the club to criminal charges for tax evasion. By maintaining the fiction that he sincerely believed that this was simply a tax avoidance scheme,which worked by making the payments non-contractual, then he keeps his argument with HMRC “technical” rather than criminal, so no one goes to jail.

If the EBT payments had been declared to the SFA as contractual, but not declared to HMRC as taxable, then the case for criminal proceedings by HMRC would be unanswerable. SDM is not that stupid (or that badly advised).


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J Maclure says:
September 14, 2012 at 20:43
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jammy dodger says:

September 14, 2012 at 20:30

‘by implicitly threatening them with physical violence’

Hyperbole does,nt do that statement justice.
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No, it doesn’t. So how about “accurate” instead.


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J Maclure says:
September 14, 2012 at 20:07

On RTC and here McCoist has been slated in the most vehement language since his misguided inerview but if anyone does not deserve it is him. He has a love for his club but he has proved beyond doubt that he is one person that can straddle the bitter and religious divide in this country.
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Sorry, but I have to vehemently disagree. His “calling out” of an independent tribunal, which his own club had agreed should have its confidentiality respected, was beneath contempt. We all (and that includes you) know why he did it- to intimidate and bully the panel members, by implicitly threatening them with physical violence. No other reason, no other excuse. That is the measure of the man, a wee sleekit nasty rabble-rousing coward. The mask slipped that day, and pulling it back on just isn’t going to work. Having seen the true face of the man, all I can say is- hell mend him.


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I would like to raise a topic that in my view is important to Scottish football, but has received scant attention here so far. Here is a link http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19548252 to a story that must surely be of interest to all of us. (my apologies if it it doesn’t appear as a link, copy/paste should work)

My own view is that wider ownership has to be a good way forward for the game here. SDM shows clearly the dangers of one man control and the megalomaniac syndrome.

We had a St Mirren fan who was a regular and respected poster on RTC, and maybe here,sorry I can’t recall the name (auldheid?), and I would really be interested in the views of any Buddies on this important development.

The ownership structure of the clubs is an important issue for Scottish football, and maybe more fundamental than some other issues that are currently being discussed here, understandably enough while we all wait for the wheels of justice to turn.

I have said before that a total restructuring of the Scottish game is urgently required, and I think that a review of club ownership structures should be part of that. Any views?


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