About the The Scottish Football Monitor

The purpose of The Scottish Football Monitor is to pay homage to, and carry on the work of the groundbreaking RangersTaxCase blog (RTC). The aim of the Scottish Football Monitor is to cast a questioning and watchful eye on Scottish Football officialdom and the compliant mainstream media (MSM).

Scottish football, in the immediate wake of the Rangers FC liquidation, faces great challenges. The MSM have provided no sensible checks or balances on the actions of the authorities. The Scottish Football Monitor aims to provide those checks and balance.

The cosy relationship that has existed between the media and people at the top of Scottish Football has dissuaded those who may otherwise be moved to blow the whistle on wrongdoing. The Scottish Football Monitor aims, through time, and by winning the trust of ordinary fans, to fill a gap in the football media in Scotland that has been up to now filled only by RTC.

The Rangers FC saga, its consequences, and consequences of the accompanying stream of untruths and misdirection fed to us by the MSM is far from over. RTC was successful in getting the previously buried truth of the Rangers tax case into the mainstream despite a hostile MSM reaction. The Scottish Football Monitor hopes to use the skills and expertise of those in our community to a cast light on matters that those in authority would have concealed, or at least present alternative arguments to those being presented as having none.

Scottish Football Monitor asks contributors to remember only a few things;

1. The site is not the domain of any one club and is open to fans of all clubs.

2. Absolutely no discussion with regard to religion should take place.

3. Posters should refrain from using foul or abusive language.

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Trisidium is a Dunblane businessman with a keen interest in Scottish Football. He is a Celtic fan, although the demands of modern-day parenting have seen him less at games and more as a taxi service for his kids.

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  1. Mozza says:
    August 8, 2012 at 14:34
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    Charlie

    It very much depends on what example you choose to look at. Dundee for example were relegated while at the same time Livingston had fielded a player who was technically ineligible. My point is it takes a remarkable level of bitterness and, frankly, weakness to try and re-write history on the basis of technical breeches. To call it cheating is simply insane.
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    Mozza all breaches of ineligibility are ‘technical’ however a player is either eligible and able to play or ineligible and thus not permitted to play or be named in the matchday squads.

    Rangers as it would appear must have committed several hvndred such breaches, other clubs were heavily punished by the loss of matches, points and cup participation for their technical breaches of player ineligibility so why should Rangers escape similar application of the rules?

    Especially when it appears that these breaches of the eligibility were deliberate in an attempt to defraud the tax-payers and the football authorities by not fully disclosing all payments to players?


  2. Steward says,
    Sorry to keep at this point, …trialists may have played for other teams in the
    Challenge Cup, but how many had two or three year contracts signed days before the match that they couldn’t be registered for? (according to every media source).

    Now maybe they were actually registered over that weekend, but the SFA won’t confirm or deny, so how can any cynical but reasonable person not have a concern or two?

    Admittedly, is is a minor point considering today’s exceptional points by RTC and BHT&H, but its a straightforward enough issue that could be clarified, and should be.


  3. Mozza says:
    August 8, 2012 at 14:34
    Charlie

    It very much depends on what example you choose to look at. Dundee for example were relegated while at the same time Livingston had fielded a player who was technically ineligible. My point is it takes a remarkable level of bitterness and, frankly, weakness to try and re-write history on the basis of technical breeches. To call it cheating is simply insane.

    “Technical breeches”? What have trousers got do with this, apart from the ‘trousering’ of vast sums of taxpayers’ money, illegaly obtained?


  4. Mozza says:
    August 8, 2012 at 14:34
    My point is it takes a remarkable level of bitterness and, frankly, weakness to try and re-write history on the basis of technical breeches.
    To call it cheating is simply insane..
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………
    Dear oh Dear Mozza..the sadness.. the hurt..the pain..the shame..the sense of
    ..or maybe it’s “Paranoia”..? 🙂

    Although ultimately & most likely ….The Truth !!


  5. I emailed the SFA asking the question regards trialists in Sevco V Brechin Cup game. I have just received the following reply

    “At the SFL AGM on 23rd May, 2012, the member clubs approved an alteration to the terms of SFL Challenge Cup Rule 8 to allow two trialists to play in the First Round only of the Challenge Cup Competition.”


  6. paul martin@ 14.32pm. Paul,I agree,I wrote a few weeks ago about this,when you look at some of the “names” It is truly beyond belief that these players were getting Huge amounts of money through the EBT’s.
    I said then, follow the money,check the banks (BDO) for the details.have they got receipts for all the money they received,their financial advisors and accountants should have all the information.
    It is/was a wonderful way to wash money,not that i am suggesting any such thing(squirrel time!)
    If they did not receive all of the “loan” how much did they get? and who got the rest ?


  7. To call it cheating is simply insane.
    —–

    So what would you call cheating? I mean how many players would a team have to field who were “technically inelligible” for you to consider it cheating?

    IIRC Spartans were disqualified for fielding one player who had a registration form with one signature missing; most of us would think that a technical offence but presumably your threshold is much higher.


  8. On SFA complicity it is easy for the SFA to disprove.

    Just set out with dates and what they were told by Rangers when a licence was issued last season in spite of a wee tax bill for which there was no arrangement or which arrangement was breached by Rangers.

    In spite of letters, petitions, the Nimmo enquiry the SFA have never produced the required evidence to persuade the sceptics the SFA were and are trustworthy.

    Why not unless there is something to hide? Between that and what has happened since to show the SFA’s core belief is that Scotland must have a strong Rangers (I’ll get back to that) the game has lost all credibility. That belief did not start last season, it is clearly intrinsic to SFA thinking so the balance of probability is that the SFA were complicit in granting licences they should not and it goes way back, but in provable terms starts with EBTs. I doubt there is a football supporter outside of Rangers or journalist who does not have a suspicion this debacle has its causes as much in the SFA as Rangers but are afraid of the consequences if it is investigated.

    On a strong Rangers: This is a myth, they were financially weak but took financial steroids to give the opposite impression. Until such time as the financial reality in Scotland is recognised and lived with the SFA are guilty of perpetuating that myth and in doing so bring about the very thing they dread – Armageddon.


  9. Don

    Even suggesting cheating is a big concern here is a joke too. How many people want a result overturned when their team has scored a winning goal from a dodgy penalty? It’s utter pish lads, and you all know it.


  10. Coudl someone provide a list of Scottish journalists email or twitter addresses that we could all send the RTC article to – and various other points that we would want to make?

    I’m not thinking sports journalists in Scotland – that’s a shameful waste of time -I’m more thinking Ian MacWhirter, Ian Bell, Brian Taylor, Lesley Riddoch, Joyce Macmillan etc – surely one of them would have the guts to write about this scandal of taxpayers money? or are they all as quiet on this issue as our Scottish Government Ministers?

    why is this scandal still only on the websites and not the number one issue in Scottish public life? we are talking about millions of pounds owed to the taxpayer, Scottish companies and Scottish public bodies – but there is silence.

    next time you hear a Scottish politician complain about not enough funding for this school or that hospital – just laugh out loud at them


  11. Mozza says:
    August 8, 2012 at 15:09
    There is an obvious attempt to conflate issues and I understand why….
    ………………………………………………………………….
    Mozza..
    Please …!! is there something you have missed..?
    Why don’t you enlighten us all with your understanding..?


  12. BRTH

    Would that be the Trevor Stevens who seemed to be interviewed by Sky every time another RFCIA story broke – gving a very pro RFCIA line?

    Would be interesting to see who decides who gets interviewed by media outlets like Sky
    Perhaps Minty has friends there – that might explain the appalling child like narrative that channel seems to pedal


  13. Viola Sporst Management appear to act on behalf of:

    Lee McCulloch
    Alan Gow
    Barry Ferguson
    Maurice Ross
    Bob Malcolm
    Craig Moore
    Kevin Muscat
    and
    Dariusz Adamcuk

    amongst others


  14. What happens if/when HMRC go after individuals and win, what does taking out a super injunction mean, will the public never find out?


  15. So if Rangers were not trying to gain a sporting advantage through the use of EBTs, Mozza, what exactly was their motivation in so doing?

    Just giving the trustees something to do with their time?

    Quite clearly financial doping and performed on an industrial scale, so no wriggle room for saying it was a mistake or a wee white lie, to borrow a phrase from the SFA book of weasel words


  16. Tic 6709 says:
    August 8, 2012 at 15:14
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    Never mind CE, just wait until Smell The Glove gets a hold of mozza and his inanities.


  17. Put yourself in Murray’s position for a moment, after almost two and a half decades of ownership of RFC you would be able to have cultivated quite a powerful base of allies and influence within the structure of Scottish football. You would have ‘Rangers’ men in senior positions of the SFA & SPL management perhaps even the (vice) president and (former) chief executive, it might be helpful if the boss of the players union was also a former member of staff and lifelong fan of the club, having former managers and coaches heavily involved with the national teams might help not only get current players selected and advanced at international level but would also help boost their transfer value. You would have a network of trusted journalists you could turn to to faithfully present your agenda and version of events…………………..

    Even better if a significant number of these people have been made recipients and beneficiaries of significant sums of money through the EBT scheme. It must boost or help the notion that it will be unlikely there will ever be a strenuous examination of the mechanics of the EBT scheme from the football authorities, not when that means that their president/vice-president, chief executive, national team coaches & managers, members of the management boards or committees have all been heavily conflicted and/or benefitted from aforementioned tax-scheme.


  18. Itsagoal,

    Excellent.

    A brill idea. What about it, a list of email addresses for all sports hacks – north and south of the border. They all pay tax, so it must be of concern to them, or so it should be – a football club that owes millions (130 million) to the same revenue authorities.
    So who will compile this list and have it permanently displayed and updated on this blog.


  19. Auldheid at 13.01.

    I wouldn’t waste my time waiting for Platini to implement financial fair play. To do so properly would be the utter ruin of European football and he knows it. Barcelona, Real Madrid, Athletico Madrid, PSG, much of the EPL, oil/gas money funded Russian clubs and, doubtless a few other wannabe Sevco’s across Europe will simply devise another ruse to avoid unpleasant rules. And, should Platini persist, they’ll up sticks and form their own Euro Super League, where sundry billionaires, with wealth of highly dubious origins, can indulge in a spend off until they all get bored.

    I mentioned before on the old RTC blog of my experiences in dealing with football clubs in distress and the comical behaviour of Boards and Players. It really does take the breath away to sit with a director who has forecast a loss, anticipates a runaway overdraft balance, yet seemingly cannot compute why the bank (represented by me) is unprepared to accept this and, even worse, is refusing to allow him to sign a swarthy foreigner on a stupid salary who will, for sure, “improve the team” (based on a selective DVD prepared by the agent).

    Football, regrettably, is dominated by financial illiterates who appear to believe that football and finance exist in different dimensions. In fact, the retarded thinking takes you to a place where the more you pay a player, the better he must surely be. I am sure we all could name at least 50 players for whom that theory is easily disproved. And the financial illiteracy extends from ground staff to regulators, from top to bottom. That hacks could claim “not to understand numbers” in the midst of the most significant football story in Scottish history should have seen editors attempting to up the IQs in the Sports desks.

    Quite apart from the claims to morality and fair play, perhaps the most depressing aspect of the rise of Sevco is the perpetuation of the “purchase over nurture” mindset that so defines football in this country. Players such as Andy Little had every chance of playing his way towards a significant future transfer fee for his club. Instead, he takes his place behind Sandaza, Kyle and potentially Beattie.

    As others have said, you might have expected the media to examine the moral, financial and, most importantly, the footballing philosophy at play here. Instead and, as ever, they chose to join in with the cheer-leaders.


  20. Mozza says:
    August 8, 2012 at 15:09

    It is far from semantics – they are completely different issues………………

    Really ????

    Given that way that the MSM/ SFA/SFL have all bent over backwards to accommodate the actions of RFC (IA NIL) It comes as no surprise that you are unable to come to terms with the facts that very very soon the whole world will be aware of over ten years of ‘cheating’ by what had been laughingly described as , Scotland’s establishment club ( prior to liquidation), and to the lengths that they have gone to defraud Scottish football clubs , the UK taxpayers and numerous other innocent creditors.

    Shame on you………


  21. Essex Beancounter

    I reckon Ticketus are doing the bankrolling. A Paulie Walnuts on Twitter (might be the same guy as on rtc might not) says the rumour is Ticketus OWN Ibrox which is why the deeds have been deep sixed.

    My suspicion is based on who has more to gain and lose if there are no bums on seats at Ibrox and that is Ticketus. As long as they are prepared to play the long game they will get their money back from Rangers supporters which is only right.Its one way of one creditor not being fleeced although that might not be fair on the others.Time and BDO will tell.


  22. Green during the takeover said they’d been involved with this since March (ie sevco consortium) – now it’s a matter of record that they didn’t appear publicly on the scene until much later than that however Ticketus were working with Blue Knights, Bill Ng and other would be Rangers-bidders from the very beginning. Were the seeds of Green’s eventual take-over initially sown during Ticketus initial plans & discussions to work with the other (failed) bidders. Only then did Mr Green make his appearance.


  23. On the day that Sir Chris Hoy wins his sixth gold medal and becomes GB’s greatest ever olympian, the Herald front page headline is “Sports tycoon Mike Ashley to buy stake in Rangers”.

    Make your own mind up.


  24. All

    RTC was never interested in the whole of Scottish football and it’s clear this isn’t either. Another false pretense. I’ve said all I wanted to say for now so I’ll leave you to the mutual back-patting.

    All the best


  25. miki67 says:

    August 8, 2012 at 12:42

    This has all now reached the dizzying peak of a mountainous,Orwellian paranoid nightmare. I am actually getting headaches from seeing the reality while being force-fed lies and having to witness football in Scotland being made an absolute mockery of while the msm chortle with unabashed glees as trfc rips up the rules as it goes merrily on its way creating the latest version of fantasy soccer. This truly is sickening,and the force with which it is being applied is affecting my health.
    That is the impact of unchecked propaganda and brainwashing when you struggle against it in the full knowledge that no one is going to pull the plug on it any time soon.
    Scottish football and its governance has become a truly sickening spectacle.
    Those aren’t just words. Those are facts.
    __________________________________________________________

    I have to agree 100%. I feel physically ill when I think of the scale of the corruption and the scam being played out in the open. Meanwhile, my own club Hibs have struggled for years to live within their means and suffered badly on the field as a result. As a side note, take a bow Rod Petrie, all that time and effort saving and protecting “rangers” and your own club (our club) is suffering. Get your priorities straight!

    We may have won some battles but “rangers” and their Axis allies in the SFA, SPL & MSM (and perhaps even the Scottish Government) are winning the war. The analogy I would use is that our victories such as keeping “Rangers” out of the SPL have been our Dunkirk. Glorious, but nonetheless the forces of darkness still remain in posession of the battlefield. We are now about to enter the Battle of Britain phase, where wave after wave of bombers (in one case an actual Bomber ) will bombard us with propaganda, intimidation, lies and disinformation, and try to starve us out.

    Make no mistake, if “rangers” and their Axis allies win this Battle, it WILL mean the end of senior football in Scotland. They will be all that is left, (apologies to Celtic fans, who may well feel with justification that their club will survive no matter what). Fans of all other clubs will desert in droves rather than continue to play in a rigged league while being bombarded with triumphalist invective.

    So we must fight manfully, with letters and e-mails to our clubs, to the MSM, to stakeholder organisations both friends and foes. never give up, never surrender (oops straying into Galaxy Quest territory there, rather than Churchilian rhetoric). Fight them on the beaches of the internet and the media.

    FIFA and EUFA have stayed Swiss neutral. There is no reinforcements coming from there.

    But hopefully, the cavalry will enter the fray to win the Campaign with us, BDO, the FTT, the Fraud Squad, and the law courts.

    Let’s stay frosty till then and keep up the fight.


  26. Just a thought. Instead of responding to a troll why not no thums up, or down at all, thereby giving the impression that the message may not have been read. By giving the thums down you give the troll the satisfaction of knowing that their atavistic rant has been read.


  27. Auldheid says:
    August 8, 2012 at 15:32

    Do you reckon thats why that eloquent Blantyre fud Bummer Broon (Investigates)etc,has been kinda..eh…quiet of late,(tumbleweed sound effect)
    Regarding his show me title deeds etc etc..perhaps he has been given the “Yeh Yeh Bummer..now Sit down Stupid” instruction from the “others”..?


  28. Auldheid at 15.32

    I see the rationale for your view. How would that ownership fit with the floating and fixed charges that Whyte has moved out to his Liberty Capital company in BVI ? Or would Whyte have used it/these in settlement to Ticketus re his personal guarantee ? If he had done this, wouldn’t that transfer pop up on a Land Register/Companies House ? (i.e. we would have seen it by now)


  29. Charlie Brown says:

    August 8, 2012 at 15:29

    Agrred Charlie .Don’t think anything else needs explained as to why our National game is in this mess. Things are worse than ever , the cheats are winning, spending, and laughing at others whos finances are in a state and they have the cheek to spout drivel about being punished.
    Only after all these people have been found guilty of assisting and supporting SEVCO and the original RFC to play outwith the rules (sic) to the detriment of every other club in the country will our game get back to a level playing field.
    Murray and his merry men need to taken to task. Pay your taxes,admit collusion and we’ll think about moving on.


  30. Mozza says:
    August 8, 2012 at 15:37

    Mozza it would be better if you stayed and presented coherent arguments why Rangers should not be subjected to the same rules every other club is.

    If you perceive the blog to be too much anti-Rangers or not for the whole of Scottish football then stay and present arguments and post topics that will make it more inclusive.

    the facts are the overwhelming majority turned against Rangers in recent months receiving any kind of clemency from the football authorities especially as they themselves were the architects of their own downfall AND it’s quite obvious to anyone who can read or who has eyes and a brain in their head that they cheated, deliberately and gained honours and financial and sporting advantages from doing so.

    That they wasted some of that money on shan fitba players is irrelevant. Celtic bought Rafael Scheidt, Aberdeen Paul Bernard and Hearts Mirsad Beslija – every team has had their expensive duds.


  31. Mozza says:
    August 8, 2012 at 15:37

    >>RTC was never interested in the whole of Scottish football and it’s clear this isn’t either. Another false pretense. I’ve said all I wanted to say for now so I’ll leave you to the mutual back-patting.

    I’m not a Scottish football fan so I have no agenda to pursue here other than fair play. This is amongst the biggest scandals in football worldwide *ever*, it’s as big a deal (if not bigger) than the fiscal implosion of AC Fiorentina in 2002 and it’s aftermath.

    Without applying the rules of the association & leagues rigorously and equitably to members without any adjustment due to the identity of the member himself – remember Spartans were humped out the cup for a missing date on a form (had to be dated in two places), this is tax evasion on an industrial scale.

    Everyone in the country is suffering additional tax-burden because one club decided not to pay the tax they are legally obliged to pay and at the same time the other clubs that they played were suffering because that same club bought players which they could not have otherwise been able to afford (in case you think that they could have paid the tax and not gone belly up years ago – the debt level would be similar, minus the penalty, but plus interest on the overdraft).

    “Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery” – Wilkins Micawber (David Copperfield by Charles Dickens).

    If only the issues at RFC(IA/IL/defunct/phoenixed) were as small as 6d.

    Add to the joy of all of this that sectarian singing and chanting are back (as if they had ever gone away) with apparently no action from the SFA, SFL or Tayside Constab (Brechin game) or Strathclyde (East Fife game).

    It’s almost as if the shenanigans of the summer were just a sideshow to entertain one and all in the interseason gap.


  32. Is someone on the wind up. Have Rangers cheated by playing Gavin Rae? Cheated themselves perhaps!


  33. Mozza says:
    August 8, 2012 at 15:37

    RTC (RFC) was never interested in the whole of Scottish football and it’s clear this (Sevco) isn’t either. Another false pretense.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Fixed that for you.


  34. Mozza

    Do yourself a favour and look into the history of gaining on field advantage using money that was not a clubs to invest.

    The principle was first raised when Leicester City used the Garry Lineker intervention to augment their finances and deny other clubs a higher finish.

    Those clubs denied and asked questions and the FA recognised the principle of sporting advantage gained by illicit use of finance.Like paying players and not creditors.

    This only became obvious when creditors forced administration (until then no one knew) but in 2004/05 the PRINCIPLE of unfair sporting advantage was codified by the introduction of the 10 pts penalty to offset the advantage using illicit financial methods be that unpaid (and the Rangers debt remains unpaid) debt or misuse of a tax scheme available to no one else provided.

    Did Rangers field players they could only afford using a scheme HMRC say was not appropriate?Yes

    Were other clubs competing on the same basis? No

    Did they have to pay more to even stand a chance of competing? Yes and it proved unsustainable.

    So on a matter of underlying principle Rangers embarked on a system of payment BECAUSE of the sporting advantage it provided not to save tax. Had it been to save tax ALL of the tax saved would have stayed in the Rangers bank account. Not telling the SFA was to protect that advantage and the SFA allowed it to continue.

    Sorry but Rangers have been caught bang to rights cheating and the only thing that will stop that being declared is the fear of the subsequent questions such an outcome will ask of the SFA, for it happened on their watch.


  35. Charlie Brown says:
    August 8, 2012 at 15:49

    “Aberdeen Paul Bernard – every team has had their expensive duds”
    ————————————————————————————————-
    Charlie, we had more than one.

    FAAAAAAAAAARR MORE 🙂


  36. For those interested in Gordon Smith….his son is a registered FIFA agent:
    SMITH Grant RF9 Management Limited (Gordon Smith is a director)
    Might be worth a look at who he represents.

    As mentioned, Wiggy has also been a director of Gsf Player Management Ltd, Prostar Management Limited, Gordon Smith Sports Management Limited and the doomed W.L.F.A Limited (with Mark Hately) – as well as an outfit called “Knights Templar”.
    Knob.


  37. Mozza says: August 8, 2012 at 14:50
    ‘Financial doping’ is not under investigation by the SPL. If they do want to investigate financial doping in the SPL’s lifetime then bring it on I say. Alternatively, we could drop the pretense that anyone really cares about phrases like financial doping.

    Fairly sure some people are interested in Financial Doping. Me for a start, this guy too…
    http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2011/5/24/1306255380503/Michel-Platini-007.jpg


  38. Insomniac says:
    August 8, 2012 at 16:16

    Do you think Gordon Smith is aware or knows anything about being a director in any of these co’s..?

    al go get me articles of association 🙂


  39. Franksboy

    I’ve no idea of the mechanics but if I had been conned out of £27m by a guy who could not pay it back I would repossess what he bought with my money to see how much I could get for the asset.

    Were I the kind of guy that operates in such murky territory I would have a horses head left in Mr Whyte’s bed to remind him I cngaf about floating charges or Virgins.


  40. Insomniac says:
    August 8, 2012 at 16:16
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    For those interested in Gordon Smith….his son is a registered FIFA agent:
    SMITH Grant RF9 Management Limited (Gordon Smith is a director)
    Might be worth a look at who he represents.

    As mentioned, Wiggy has also been a director of Gsf Player Management Ltd, Prostar Management Limited, Gordon Smith Sports Management Limited and the doomed W.L.F.A Limited (with Mark Hately) – as well as an outfit called “Knights Templar”.
    Knob.

    Gordon Smith has a company called “Knights Templar” !!! Says it all really – goat shagger and knob


  41. I can’t really hang around to answer questions, but I can tell you that there is no deadline in the 5 way agreement for payment of football debts (i.e. £800,000 to Hearts, whatever Rapid Vienna are owed etc.) This answers a question by Rab, I think, a few days ago.

    As you can probably deduce from that, there is also no sanction for non-payment.

    I think one of the many questions to be asked of the SPL & SFA is why they left out a fairly obvious clause saying:-

    “the football debts hereinbefore referred to shall be paid in full by the transferee (Sevco) in cleared funds before close of business on xxxx. In the event of late, partial or non-payment of all or any of the football debts, the transfer of licence hereby effected shall be revoked forthwith and shall have no force or effect. All player registrations shall, in such event, revert to the SFA.”

    It’s not hard. It just requires you to want to ensure payment is made and not avoided or delayed.

    Naturally, the clubs are free to sue, whereupon the 5 way agreement would have to become public. Would suing for payment be construed, in Murray’s tasteless phrase, as “bayoneting the wounded”?


  42. Excellent reply, Auldheid. LoL !! The ownership of Mordor is one of the mysteries gnawing away at me. The information on this is so guarded it’s become one of Scottish Football’s biggest secrets. Oh, for a set of audited Sevco accounts. Perhaps it may take the administration of Sevco to find out.

    Actually, does anyone know Sevco’s year-end ?


  43. An extract from the link posted by Scotland Behave at 14.27 –
    Raymond Sparkes’ Pro-Star Management joined forces with Gordon Smith last year to form Scotland’s biggest agency, (last year being 2001).

    So, RTC detectives , who (if any) were the players supplied by this pair to RFC RIP since that time who are known recipients of EBTs ? This looks pretty nuclear for Wiggy , potentially.

    Your mission should you chose to accept it …….


  44. Remuneration for Gavin Rae.?You mean he got paid!!!!!!


  45. >>Naturally, the clubs are free to sue, whereupon the 5 way agreement would have to become public. Would suing for payment be construed, in Murray’s tasteless phrase, as “bayoneting the wounded”?

    Hmmmm, I wonder if Rapid Vienna might do it anyway… they were keen to get the balance of the dough for Jelavic.


  46. tearsofjoy says:
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    An extract from the link posted by Scotland Behave at 14.27 –
    Raymond Sparkes’ Pro-Star Management joined forces with Gordon Smith last year to form Scotland’s biggest agency, (last year being 2001).

    So, RTC detectives , who (if any) were the players supplied by this pair to RFC RIP since that time who are known recipients of EBTs ? This looks pretty nuclear for Wiggy , potentially.

    Your mission should you chose to accept it …….

    =================================
    Much as would like to take the Brownie points for the link I can’t. I pointed out that Sparkes and Smith were involved in Pro-Star Management. It was CE who dug out the article. So good on ya CE


  47. Gym Trainer says:
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    >>Naturally, the clubs are free to sue, whereupon the 5 way agreement would have to become public. Would suing for payment be construed, in Murray’s tasteless phrase, as “bayoneting the wounded”?

    Hmmmm, I wonder if Rapid Vienna might do it anyway… they were keen to get the balance of the dough for Jelavic.

    ==========================
    Rapid Vienna were very vocal and aggresive about getting their money back. So I would not be surprised if they follow this up quite soon.


  48. May have missed it, but can anyone confirm if Gavin Rae playted in the Scttish Cup or League Cup for Rangers during the years RTC has indicated he was receiving unregistered appearance money?
    If so, why are the SFA (and SFL) refusing to treat this with the same speed as to which they treated the Spartans case (and in fact, refusing to deal with it at all)?
    Out of interest – who would have been the appellate body for Spartans case, if they had wanted to appeal against the SFA decision to expel them from the cup?


  49. thewestlight says:
    August 8, 2012 at 16:54

    Had Celtic evidence that the EBT scheme was being implemented incorrectly?


  50. thewestlight on August 8, 2012 at 16:54
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    Does anyone find it strange that celtic did nothing to reveal or stop the rangers EBT scam? If they knew they were being cheated surely they would have gone to the authorities.

    ———————-

    I think we have a winner for the poorest effort at trolling today!


  51. Fans Against Corruption says: August 8, 2012 at 17:04

    May have missed it, but can anyone confirm if Gavin Rae playted in the Scttish Cup or League Cup for Rangers during the years RTC has indicated he was receiving unregistered appearance money?
    If so, why are the SFA (and SFL) refusing to treat this with the same speed as to which they treated the Spartans case (and in fact, refusing to deal with it at all)?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This is a very important point. the SFL have said they have no immediate plans to look into the previous winners of the League Cup. this is a disgrace – particularly since we the tax payer are the sponsors of the league Cup as the First Minister recently announced another £1.7M of taxpayers money to sponsor the trophy. Er whatever happened to no taxation without representation? should the First Minister hand over our money when the trophy could have been won illegally for the last 11 years?

    the SFA also receive taxpayers money – to the tune of £10M a year – its time that we taxpayers demanded our rights – if we are denied them as sports fans – they cant deny us as their funders…..

    Blindsummit hinted at something similar earlier


  52. Mozza, third party (trust ) payments are against the rules, Rangers new this, so its cheating.


  53. there is a distinction between censor and censure and your tretment would fall into the latter.


  54. thewestlight on August 8, 2012 at 17:17
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    So you are now censoring comments. Free speech and new media my arse. Do we have to get with the program? You are just like the MSM. It’s my blog and you’re not playing.

    ——————
    “Free Speech” does not mean we have to agree with you. And what is being “censored”?


  55. thewestlight says:

    August 8, 2012 at 16:54

    Does anyone find it strange that celtic did nothing to reveal or stop the rangers EBT scam? If they knew they were being cheated surely they would have gone to the authorities.
    ——————————————
    WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHY when knowing the outcome is certain death for oldco
    if you let thing run their course.
    just sayin like 🙂


  56. thewestlight says:
    August 8, 2012 at 16:54
    Does anyone find it strange that celtic did nothing to reveal or stop the rangers EBT scam? If they knew they were being cheated surely they would have gone to the authorities.
    ………………………………………………………………………….
    Perhaps they did..?
    But as everyone now knows,the “authorities” were & are in on the SCAM …. baw deep.

    anyway was it no Mousey Tongue who said…Why disturb your enemy when they are continually & repeatedly making a complete sack of things…?..or somthing similar 🙂


  57. Any truth in the rumour the nickname around Ibrox for SDM was mozza?


  58. Mozza was a nick name i gave to my youngest when she was born..now 18 yrs old..!
    I need to go tell her now that i can’t refer to her by that name anymore.!

    see Mozza that is how peepul like you always have a negative effect on decent people 🙁


  59. Thewestlight.
    Welcome.
    You’ll have to up your game before some of the big boys on here entertain you, however you will be free to air your views.
    Congrats for your teams tremendous progress last night, I’m off now to watch the CL game.
    LoL


  60. sorry Thewestlight just realised I should explain CL = Champions League.


  61. and to add sincerely best of luck to Motherwell and Dundee Utd our other two remaining teams in europe. Best of luck boys


  62. Celtic didn’t need to know Rangers had an EBT scheme it was obvious something wasn’t right when we were getting gazumped continually by Rangers for signing targets. I’m sure agents must have told Celtic what during negotiating what Rangers were offering in wages and or trust funds.

    Although I’m sure from the Mark Daly documentary it was reported that a Rangers player didn’t realise he was getting paid by an EBT until he got his first wage.


  63. Distract and deflect. Distract and deflect. Distract and deflect.

    It is a sure sign that there is trouble at t’mill when the trolls come out in force.

    (-S)DM and his lackeys are doing their utmost to deflect and distract. It ain’t working here and you have to wonder how many non-Sevco fans are buying any of it? Jings, the more enlightened old-Rangers fans are tearing their hair out at the nonsense being spewed forth.

    Meanwhile we have RTC and many other Bampots (hat off to all of you) laying out the whole sorry mess so clearly that a child could reach the only rational conclusion.

    The Ibrokes mafia are definitely rattled. If only someone, anyone, from the MSM had the cojones to ask why that is?

    Mibbe they know there is an event horizon about to be crossed and they are just biding their time? Doesn’t sound right somehow….

    I don’t expect anything of worth from the laptop loyal from the fitba pages, but I am surprised (a bit anyway) that the business sections aren’t giving this a forensic shake-down.

    Mibbe its the editors / owners toeing the old party line. Yup. That sounds more like it.

    ‘mon the Bampots.


  64. ”If you don’t need to know, you don’t get to hear.” says:
    August 8, 2012 at 17:31
    “was it no Mousey Tongue who said…Why disturb your enemy when they are continually & repeatedly making a complete sack of things…?..or somthing similar”

    I think it was the Little General who said “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”


  65. thewestlight says:

    August 8, 2012 at 16:54

    Does anyone find it strange that celtic did nothing to reveal or stop the rangers EBT scam? If they knew they were being cheated surely they would have gone to the authorities
    _________________________________________________

    Hmmmmmmm, no I don’t. And I speak as a Hibs fan. Why would this be down to Celtic to do? Every other club was cheated by Rangers too, not just Celtic. It’s not just about them or the entity formerly known as Rangers. And Rangers should have had the decency and morality (and perhaps dignity if I may be so bold) to follow the rules and not cheat without someone having to look over their shoulder.


  66. Good luck to Celtic soon and Motherwell later representing the SPL tonight.


  67. Domaine Jessiaume says:

    August 8, 2012 at 16:30

    I can’t really hang around to answer questions, but I can tell you that there is no deadline in the 5 way agreement for payment of football debts (i.e. £800,000 to Hearts, whatever Rapid Vienna are owed etc.) This answers a question by Rab, I think, a few days ago.

    As you can probably deduce from that, there is also no sanction for non-payment.

    I think one of the many questions to be asked of the SPL & SFA is why they left out a fairly obvious clause saying:-

    “the football debts hereinbefore referred to shall be paid in full by the transferee (Sevco) in cleared funds before close of business on xxxx. In the event of late, partial or non-payment of all or any of the football debts, the transfer of licence hereby effected shall be revoked forthwith and shall have no force or effect. All player registrations shall, in such event, revert to the SFA.”

    It’s not hard. It just requires you to want to ensure payment is made and not avoided or delayed.

    Naturally, the clubs are free to sue, whereupon the 5 way agreement would have to become public. Would suing for payment be construed, in Murray’s tasteless phrase, as “bayoneting the wounded”?
    _______________________________________________________________

    Thanks for that info DJ. I wonder if the clubs are all aware of just how much concern their financial welfare (particularly Hearts) is to the men who run the SFA and SPL. Wouldn’t it be nice if they put the interests of some of the oldest teams in the league ahead of those of a team that has only just come into being? Not so many weeks ago these same men, who negotiated the agreement with Sevco, were shouting from the rooftops of Armagedon should the SPL lose the income from Rangers, and yet, having lost any form of Rangers from the SPL, they were quite happy to agree to a package that fails to ensure the addition of close to £900,000, in total, coming back to the SPL. I think it time the clubs involved were petitioning the SFA for their money, citing their negligence in failing to include a pay-by date, and appropriate penalties for late payment, within the agreement. This is clear confirmation, if confirmation was indeed required, that the SFA’s one concern, in this whole debacle, has been ‘what’s good for Rangers’ and not ‘for the good of Scottish football’.


  68. Sally has fair changed his tune about Charlie boy…………..proving he is a two-faced wee rat-bag………like we didn’t know already. 🙂


  69. tomahawk kid
    profuse apologies I’m still trying to get the hang of this all for one thing etc.

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