Where transparency exists accountability inevitably follows.
This is an extract from a post on SFM from 2015. The subject was Transparency and Slow Glass
The message then was that football governance has to catch up in realising that football has to become more transparent in its dealing with supporters and so more accountable to them.
That transparency is already here via social media because of the ability to share, but the light of truth is constrained by Slow Glass.
Slow Glass from a short story by Bob Shaw slows down the light passing through it.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_of_Other_Days
In the story and others, you have Slow Glass of different thickness in terms of the time it takes for the light to emerge.
You have Glass a day thick/long to Glass ten years thick/long and more.
Resolution 12, if measured from the Celtic AGM in 2013 when it was tabled and adjourned, has taken 6 years for the light of truth to emerge, although it could have happened sooner had main stream media removed the dust of PR that slows the light, but light is inexorable and it is emerging at an archive of events since 2011 that can be read at
https://www.res12.uk/
It is in two parts.
Part One relates to events in 2011/12 including a very interesting link between UEFA Licence 2011 and the commissioning of Lord Nimmo Smith to investigate use of EBTs with side letters by Rangers FC where non-disclosure benefited Rangers FC in 2011 AND 2012.
Part Two concentrates SFA activity (or lack of it) from 2014 to date as result of the adjournment of Resolution 12 in November 2013 that provided shareholders with the authority to seek answers.
The archive has been constructed in chronological sequence to help readers understand better the detail and separate what took place in 2011/12 which is in the past, from the SFA handling of shareholders legitimate enquiries from 2014/15 to date, which remains current and is a mirror of SFA performance in respect of the national football team.
Many narratives will emerge as a result of the transparency, some Celtic related, but a system of governance, that is accountable in some way to supporters as stakeholders in the game, can only benefit the supporters of all clubs and they are encouraged to read through the archive.
As Phil Mac Giolla Bhain has written here in respect of Celtic and the SFA
accountability has to be the outcome of transparency to wipe the face and soul of Scottish football clean.
How that is achieved will be up to Scottish football supporters everywhere to take forward via their Associations and Trusts, in collaboration with the clubs they support, but it does seem to me, and I know others with more legal experience, that the SFA would find it difficult to resist a challenge to their refusal to engage with people (in this case minority shareholders of member clubs) who are affected by decisions that they make.
Big Pink 20th May 2019 at 12:23
Ex Ludo 20th May 2019 at 15:15
As discussed the other day Clarke is the best of a very short list.
However the one thing I believe he has in is favour is that it he comes over as a practical realist and someone who cares about the game, his players and results more than himself. He clearly has no fear in facing down (or bowing down) to the likes of Celtic or T'Rangers as yesterdays wee leaving speech showed.
If he gets any crap from the SFA or any of the clubs I hope he won't be slow in coming forward and telling them how it is.
A wee PS
The reports I see indicate that Gerrard says 'Rangers have only received ONE offer for Alfredo Morelos during his time at the club'.
Therefore Slippy G arrived in May 2018 so, to be fair, all the China talk was from January / February 2018.
However there were MSM reports after Gerrard was appointed about bids from many including:-
Bordeaux
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45203177
Nice
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/17376709.steven-gerrard-a-bid-of-8m-disrespects-alfredo-morelos-rangers-and-me-hes-going-nowhere/
Marseille
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/alfredo-morelos-to-marseille-french-side-want-rangers-ace-to-replace-mario-balotelli-1-4914152
Fenerbache
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/alfredo-morelos-targeted-fenerbahce-turkish-12695946
Usual pish from both the club from Ibrox and the arse licking SMSM
I can never work out wether the JPJenkins site has an echo because sometimes it shows 2 identical transactions and sometimes only 1. Anyway since I last looked two lines of 300,000 shares at 18p have been added. If the seller voted to sell on the court ordered offer, he/she/they have taken a £6000+ hit because honest Dave bought enough time to gerrymander the vote
I can't believe Clark has taken the Scotland job. He could have used his success at Kilmarnock as a stepping stone to a bigger club here or back in the EPL.
I wonder what he will do when he is eventually sacked for not winning the World Cup?
The Servco supporters and their friends in the media will be against him from the off. The poor chap has no chance unless he can at least qualify for something and then virtually win the trophy.
Is it Clark or Clarke, over to you JC.
A wee PS
The reports I see indicate that Gerrard says 'Rangers have only received ONE offer for Alfredo Morelos during his time at the club'.
Therefore Slippy G arrived in May 2018 so, to be fair, all the China talk was from January / February 2018.
However there were MSM reports after Gerrard was appointed about bids from many including:-
Bordeaux
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45203177
Nice
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/17376709.steven-gerrard-a-bid-of-8m-disrespects-alfredo-morelos-rangers-and-me-hes-going-nowhere/
Marseille
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/alfredo-morelos-to-marseille-french-side-want-rangers-ace-to-replace-mario-balotelli-1-4914152
Fenerbache
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/alfredo-morelos-targeted-fenerbahce-turkish-12695946
Ballyargus 20th May 2019 at 17:30
When your country calls most people take up the opportunity.
We have a decent squad of players, a few stand-outs and some decent upcoming prospects.
Clarke may well be the one to draw them all together and get the working as an efficient team.
Not sure what T'Rangers have to do with Scotland these days, they are full of foreign ( and some on loan) starters and other than McGregor haven't provided any homegrown talent in the last few squads.
Can't see the likes of Jack or McCrorie getting a run of 1st team football that would warrant an international call up. Similar story for the new signing of Hastie and Greig Stewart if he goes to Ibrox.
https://twitter.com/aitkensdrum/status/1130527442337189893?s=21
Oops.
Ex Ludo 20th May 2019 at 19:34
https://twitter.com/aitkensdrum/status/1130527442337189893?s=21
Oops.
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It's not really "oops". RRL being wound up was part of the deal that saw TRFC hand over £3m to Ashley to get out of the old contract.
A dispute about the new contract, of which TRFC is allegedly in breach, is still going through the court system.
paddy malarkey 20th May 2019 at 15:50
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ClusterOne2/status/1130185058881593346/photo/1
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Feb 2, 2018
Ballyargus 20th May 2019 at 17:30
'.Is it Clark or Clarke, over to you JC.'
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AW, c'mon! I make a spelling mistake years ago [ and where has EssexBeancounter gone? ] in RTC days and folk still remember it!
Easyjambo @19.54
All noted.
Ex Ludo 20th May 2019 at 19:34
'….https://twitter.com/aitkensdrum/status/1130527442337189893?s=21'
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I am curious about the practicalities of 'bona vacantia':
"Upon dissolution all property and rights vested in, or held in trust for, the Company are deemed to be bona vacantia [ownerless goods] and accordingly will belong to the Crown"
Are there a few TRFC Ltd 'taps' lying about , unsold, that in two months time will belong to Her Majesty?
She will be pleased!
Ballyargus 20th May 2019 at 17:30
'..The Servco supporters and their friends in the media will be against him from the off. '
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It would be useful if we had on record , and ready to hand,what each and every SMSM football 'reporter' or writer has to say today/tomorrow about Clarke's appointment.
I am limited to listening to BBC 'Sportsound' and viewing 'Sportscene,' and reading the writers in 'The Scotsman'
From what I have so far today heard from those sources, the preponderance of opinion [once McInnes was acknowledged as having opted not to be considered] was that Clarke was the man.
I have no idea whether the likes of him who told us all about the MBMB, or those other succulent lamb eaters of the SMSM , have expressed a different view today.
Whatever their view, let it be recorded. For future reference.
The SFA certainly tried to make sure that they covered their back, by waiting to hear what the general run of press, public, and pundits seemed to be asking for.
And, in fairness, if it all goes pear shaped, they can rightly say they gave us what we seemed to want.
But that, of course, is not what they are meant to do!
They are meant to exercise their judgment as leaders, not to worry about covering their backs!
My own view is that they might just have chosen well.
Clarke is not a 'yes' man. He is a man of few words, but those words are telling. What he has said in public he no doubt says/said in private to the SFA Board.
There is steel in the man, and elements of Strachan and Stein. And, I hope, the professionalism in sport that judges everything in sport by the rules of sport and nothing else.
I wish him well.
I feel sure he will quickly have players absolutely dying to be chosen to be, or to be kept,in the squad, with none of a 'two fingers up ye' attitude.
And will have clubs ready and willing to provide the players he calls upon, without feigning injuries or any of that nonsense.
I think it's looking quite good for the national team.
John Clark 20th May 2019 at 22:58
I am curious about the practicalities of 'bona vacantia'
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I have come across it before and it makes for an interesting personal story.
I had occasion to look into the term a couple of years ago. It involved a company called "Heart of Midlothian 2005" It held 6.5m shares (just over 4%) in Hearts (Heart of Midlothian plc), but had just been dissolved.
I already knew that HoM 2005 was the company that Romanov had used to acquire control of the club in 2005, although its holding had been diluted in the intervening years by a couple of debt for equity swaps involving Romanov's bank, Ukio Bankas and his holding company UBIG. HoM 2005 also ended up as a subsidiary of UBIG.
I was curious about what happened to the shares HoM 2005 held in the club, as they hadn’t been accounted for in the documented share transfers at the time of the takeover. I found out that they would now be classed as "Bona Vacantia" and under the control of the "Queen's and Lord Treasurer's Remembrancer" (QLTR). I actually considered making an offer to the QLTR for the shares, if I could get them at the same price as Ann Budge had paid for the Ukio Bankas and UBIG shares. It would only have cost around £4,500, which I thought was a good deal to own over 4% of the club.
With hindsight, I made a mistake shortly afterwards by submitting a question about the status of the shares to the Hearts AGM. A couple of days after the AGM I received confirmation from the club's financial director that the shares were held "bona vacantia" (which I already knew).
My thoughts of owning a small but not insignificant part of the club were dashed a few weeks later when an unopposed petition was submitted to the Court of Session, on behalf of Ann Budge, seeking ownership of the HoM 2005 shares under the control of the QLTR.
I guess that she did have every right to take ownership of them as she had acquired the rest of the UBIG shares as part of the CVA that took the club out of administration. HoM 2005 being a subsidiary of UBIG may well have meant that she should have acquired their shares at the time of the CVA, depending on the terms of the offer made to UBIG.
However, when I look back, I wonder if it was me contacting the club that prompted Ann Budge to contact the QLTR in the first place.
easyJambo 21st May 2019 at 00:09
'..However, when I look back, I wonder if it was me contacting the club that prompted Ann Budge to contact the QLTR in the first place.'
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That's a great story, eJ,.
Apart from anything else, my son had a pal who took a job with UkIO Bankas for a while.
But I suspect that Mrs Budge was ahead of the curve with info that you didn't have until after she had it.
It would have been good for the blog to have a contributor who was a 4% shareholder of Hearts!
But not as good as having eJ pure and simple as a Hearts supporter contributing to the blog.
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Ballyargus 20th May 2019 at 17:30
'.Is it Clark or Clarke, over to you JC.'
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AW, c'mon! I make a spelling mistake years ago [ and where has EssexBeancounter gone? ] in RTC days and folk still remember it!
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JC, I don't know the story of your spelling mistake. When writing my wee piece re SC I realised that I wasn't sure if his name had an "e" at the end and added the last bit as you use a similar name as a non de plume. It was a bit tongue in cheek, I hope you were not offended.
Feel a bit flat at Clarke's decision to join the SFA.
However, fingers crossed he's also a Trojan Horse, and will become the 'SFA CEO & President' in due course – to shake the blazers out of their permanent slumber…
Good luck Steve Clarke.
Ballyargus 21st May 2019 at 06:00
'..I hope you were not offended.
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Absolutely not offended, Ballyargus: taken happily back in time to some entertaining and exciting times in the early days of the saga.
Re Steve Clarke:
He's got his 'enemy' to give him a part-time (by football management standards) job on full-time money & they've agreed to let him work from home.
Genius or desperation from Maxwell? I'll wait & see…
No brainer for Clarke despite his feelings on the SFA
He gets to move back home with his family away from the West of Scotland goldfish bowl.
I think hes a very good manager and wish him well
Like Bill 1903, I wish Steve Clarke well in his new post. I do think he has more of the required skill-set than any other declared candidate, but I am a bit disappointed that his words about the SFA appear to be rather empty.
Like most involved in the football industry and it's dependent satellites, the bottom line has seen him siding with (his words) the 'amateurs' at the SFA.
I doubt there will be any more political utterances from him from now on. Not the first false prophet in the Scottish Football Testament – and likely not the last.
https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/1130800241635221504?s=21
Striker for sale.
Seen over on James Forrest's blog:
https://thecelticblog.com/2019/05/blogs/sfa-and-celtic-shamed-as-the-welsh-fa-shows-what-nimmo-smith-should-have-done/
FAW statement:
https://www.faw.cymru/en/news/statement-bangor-city-football-club/?back=/en/news/&pos=3
JJ, Bangor aren't Rangers though………Oh wait, neither is the new club, haha.
Was Neil Doncaster trying to keep a low profile at Celtic Park on Sunday? Despite being centre stage while handing out the medals I don't think his name was announced over the PA system . As the presentation party entered the pitch their names were called out but I am pretty certain there was no mention of the bold Neil.
Jingso.Jimsie 21st May 2019 at 19:25
"FAW statement"
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That is a most interesting link, JigsoJimsie, and has cheered me up.
Not least because four of the charges are (merely)charges of late submission of copies of contract details:
"and in not submitting a copy of the Employment Contract to the Association, the application for registration did not follow the procedures set by Association for Professional Players",
Whereas, in the case of SDM's and Campbell Ogilvie's 'Rangers', copies of contracts may have been submitted in good time , but what was submitted was a tissue of lies and deceit, no doubt submitted in good time to try to avoid any special look at them if they were late( as if Ogilvie would have bothered)
If honest Welshmen looking at what Bangor City did saw it as a pretty serious offence, what ought honest Scotsmen to have done with a club that lied and cheated for a decade?
No doubt about it: expulsion from Scottish football would have been the least of it!
That that did not happen, and that that cheating club's 'sporting' successes over that decade have not only NOT been expunged from the records but are farcically ascribed to 6-year-old club, tells us that there was and is a cancer in the very vitals of Scottish Football governance.
Whatever of good and honest work our Football governance bodies may now do does not, cannot, erase the sordid wrongdoing of 6 years ago.
Only an acknowledgment of the Truth and a stripping of the deceitfully won 'honours' and titles of the Liquidated RFC of 1872 can do that,
That and ,of course,a full, independent investigation of the issue referred to as 'Res 12'.
Talking about handshakes , having earlier in the year shaken the hand of the Prime Minister of Australia [ who, much to his own surprise it appears, won the recent election and is Prime Minister for another term]and the hand of the Lady Mayoress of Redlands Council, Queensland, I had the honour today of shaking the hand of the Provost of East Lothian.
Mrs C and I took a wee run down to North Berwick as we sometimes do. As we sat in the sea-bird centre having an ice-cream, we noticed a guy down below with a gold chain round his neck, and a couple of Polis ,at the harbour.
On the way down to the harbour, this guy passed us, and I engaged him in conversation. The gold chain was the chain of office of the Provost. He gave me his card, shook hands, and explained that what was afoot was that the Duke of Buccleuch [aka the Lord High Commissioner to the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland ]was on a visit, and he had just seen him off on the wee boat trip to the Isle of May, to see the puffins' breeding ground.
If I can add that while in the wee queue to buy the ice-cream, there was a woman from Auckland behind me, and a man from the Sunshine Coast ( where the hospital that sorted my dislocated shoulder is)
It's these little serendipities that make life -even at my age- delightful; and make the sheer evil of what has been done in Scottish Football so damaging and distressing.
Instead of adding to the spice and enjoyment of life by fostering and protecting honest sporting competition, honest sporting rivalry, our football governance people have done the very opposite.
Unlike the honest men (and/or women )of the FAW they abandoned principle.
Just when you thought your season was over…
ROLLS BUILDING
COURT 28
Before LIONEL PERSEY QC sitting as a Judge of the High Court
Wednesday 22 May 2019
At 10:30AM (All Day)
Application Hearing
CL-2018-000726
SDI Retail Services Limited v The Rangers Football Club Limited
I think Big Mike should consider asking the Court to transfer all of these cases to Edinburgh in order that they be fully reported on. (John Clark, easyjambo and James Doleman:- take a bow.)
Then again, when I think of some of the decisions that have emanated from Scotland maybe not.
Stevie Clarke being welcomed with open arms in today’s Herald. The sports section has his photo wearing the SFA tie but the fashion police will be after him as he’s wearing black Oxford shoes with his blue suit. Maybe he’s going to be a rebel after all.
Ex Ludo 22nd May 2019 at 09:55
I wonder if the SFA tie-wearing Stevie Clarke is related to Stephen Clarke, Manager, Kilmarnock FC who was at a Disciplinary Hearing on 16th May 2019 following comments about a referee and received a three match suspension, two immediately and one suspended?
That was a suspension imposed by, um, the SFA.
Does this mean Scotland's home game against Cyprus on 8th June and away to Belgium on 11th June in the UEFA Euro Qualifiers will be played with the new national team manager in the stands?
If not will the SFA have to sanction itself for breaching the ban?
Ex Ludo 22nd May 2019 at 09:55
'..Stevie Clarke being welcomed with open arms in today’s Herald..'
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Jist the wan photie? Huh!
'The Scotsman' has the photo of Clarke with Maxwell (what an odd handclasp!) on page 61,another photo of Clarke by himself spread over pages 62 and 63, and another smaller photo of Clarke at the foot of page 63, and on the back page, centre, another photo of yer man. And lots of column inches of text to go with the photies!
Lugosi @ 1104hrs:
Clarke was in the stand on Sunday 19.05.19 & presumably that was the first match of his two-match ban. The second should, of course, be the Scotland v. Cyprus game on 08.06.19.
This is ripe for an SFA fudge along the lines that the ban only applies to club matches or some such nonsense…
Some sites getting excited about this so I am posting to get the experts advice ?
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08142409
theredpill 22nd May 2019 at 11:32
Some sites getting excited about this so I am posting to get the experts advice
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08142409
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It's nothing to get excited about. The £3 million 2017 settlement agreement between TRFC and SDI sealed its demise.
This is an extract from RRL's 2017 accounts:
easyJambo 17th May 2019 at 18:47
…In simple terms, Rod Petrie lied to them at the meeting in April….
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Not the first time that Petrie has lied in his capacity, but usually it is too the somewhat gullible Hibs supporters around about ST renewal time.
Flywheel
I saw the photie of Clarke – in time honoured fashion – holding up the top of his new team for the cameras… but with his name printed on the front of the jersey?
And absolutely!
Clarke will be touchline for the Cyprus game.
He was 'improperly' banned as he is now national team manager. New SFA disciplinary rules apply now to Clarke.
…just as soon as the Hampden diddies make them up…
Cheers easyjambo .
Surely Clarke’s touchline ban would only be applicable to club football/competitions run by the SFA? I think players can represent their countries whilst serving a ban at club level so wouldn’t that be the same for managers/coaches?
Anyway, really pleased with his appointment and he seemed genuinely proud to be the new Scotland manager. With a playoff place guaranteed (despite McLeish but thanks Alex!) and a competent looking guy in charge of things hopefully we’ll qualify for a tournament.
Has it really been 21 years since that happened? Time flies when you’re getting humped.
The Panel noted that the Huws Gray Alliance League Rule 7 states that any “club to have played an ineligible player in a league fixture will be dealt with by the management committee. If found guilty they will be deducted three points per game and fined a maximum of two hundred pounds per instance.”
As Bangor City had played ‘Player A’ in 11 (eleven) matches, the Panel decided that Bangor City Football Club should have 33 (thirty-three) points deducted from their Huws Gray Alliance League record for the 2018/2019 season.
The Panel noted that ‘Player B’ had participated in 11 (eleven) matches, 8 (eight) of which were the same matches as ‘Player A’. The Panel felt that the punishment of a three-point deduction per match for the eight matches that both ‘Player A’ and ‘Player B’ has participated in was sufficient. However, the Panel determined that with the three remaining matches that ‘Player B’ had participated in between October 2018 and December 2019, which ‘Player A’ did not participate in, there should be a 3-point deduction per offence. Hence, the Panel decided that Bangor City should have an additional 9 (nine) points deducted from their Huws Gray Alliance League record for the 2018/2019 season.
Therefore, the Panel decided that a total of 42 points are to be deducted from Bangor City’s Huws Gray Alliance League record for the 2018/2019 season.
https://www.faw.cymru/en/news/statement-bangor-city-football-club/?back=/en/news/&pos=3
The Welsh FA don’t mess about.
So FIFA has realised that greed is not always able to be satisfied. Their media release dated yesterday (but I first heard a report of it this morning on BBC radio) drips of disappointment:
"…Additionally, FIFA and Qatar have once again explored the feasibility of Qatar hosting a 48-team tournament by in particular lowering certain key FIFA requirements. A joint analysis, in this respect, concluded that due to the advanced stage of preparations and the need for a detailed assessment of the potential logistical impact on the host country, more time would be required and a decision could not be taken before the deadline of June. It was therefore decided not to further pursue this option.
The FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022™ will therefore remain as originally planned with 32 teams and no proposal will be submitted at the next FIFA Congress on 5 June."
Or ,perhaps, fear of many more fatalities among immigrant 82p per-day workers labouring hard to get Quatar prepared even for the 32-country competition has outweighed greed ( and perhaps indicates some regret on the part of some members that Qatar was ever selected as a suitable venue at all)
'incredibleadamspark 22nd May 2019 at 19:09
Surely Clarke’s touchline ban would only be applicable to club football/competitions run by the SFA? I think players can represent their countries whilst serving a ban at club level so wouldn’t that be the same for managers/coaches?'
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After boring myself half to death scouring the SFA Handbook & JPP, it appears that bans such as Clarke's required to be served in matches sanctioned by the SFA and other national football associations which are co-signatories to some (unspecified, as far as I read) disciplinary agreement.
UEFA & FIFA aren't, of course, national football associations: therefore such bans aren't enforceable/enforced in games sanctioned by those bodies.
Jingso.Jimsie 23rd May 2019 at 10:41
'..After boring myself half to death scouring the SFA Handbook & JPP,..'
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I was thrown a bit by para 5.2 of Annex D [on page 140 of the protocol] 'A suspension imposed upon a member of Team Staff will apply to all football…'.[my bold]
It took me a while to arrive at the same conclusion as you did, having had to read references and cross references back and forth.
Clarke's suspension does NOT include international competitions, and there will be no need for the SFA to fall back on their default position: jiggery-pokery with 'rules'!
When is the verdict on the sports direct case v rangers due to be published sorry if I missed it
sickofitall 23rd May 2019 at 21:12
'..When is the verdict on the sports direct case v rangers due to be published..'
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The short answer is: whenever the judge delivers his opinion.
Given that there was hearing just yesterday, and assuming that that was the conclusion of submissions, the Judge is not likely to deliver his opinion for a while. It could be late next week, or in a couple of weeks or even longer.
But of course, Parties will know before anything ever appears online, and it's likely that whichever Party wins, he will make sure his PR people let the media know asap!
sickofitall 23rd May 2019 at 21:12
……………June 18 i believe
It's cup final day tomorrow, where a sell out crowd will watch Celtic go for a treble treble, with Hearts all out to stop them and win a trophy of their own. It's a showpiece end to the season and hopefully the weather will also oblige.
So you would think that Scotland's biggest selling tabloid might be interested in this. However, a quick glance at their website has the top three football stories as:
1. Rangers signing a player from Oldham.
2. Rangers fans buying season tickets in record numbers (even more of a record than last year?).
3. Why Steve Clarke's first act must be calling up Ryan Jack
Well, we all saw that 'Armageddon' and 'social unrest' didn't happen when Rangers died in 2012.
'Numerous clubs' didn't die either because of the loss of the blue pound.
Football carried on in Scotland.
Arguably, it became a much better place in the SPL.
A lack of crowd trouble, a lack of dodgy singing, a lack of on field violence, much reduced nonsense in the SMSM, more clubs winning trophies, and much, much less controversy involving referees.
I preferred the SPL without a deviant Ibrox club.
I just hope that when TRFC is teetering on the financial edge, everyone – including the diddies at Hampden – remembers that Scottish football is not all about one club. It's been proven.
And, knowing what we know now, TRFC will not receive the favours as easily as Rangers did either.
I see the son of Sir David Murray has moved from his father's use of "succulent lamb" for journalists to French Riviera dining for leaders of Councils and Scottish Government Finance Minister. Again this will be described as the cost of good night out.
https://theferret.scot/property-firms-scottish-politicians-vip-dinner-cannes/
Seems a couple of trfc players in trouble in spain
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/rangers-footballer-graham-dorrans-struck-1
Sorry try this link
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/rangers-star-graham-dorrans-bottled-16192571
StevieBC 24th May 2019 at 10:53
'..And, knowing what we know now, TRFC will not receive the favours as easily as Rangers did either.'
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I fear you may be too optimistic in that regard, StevieBC:
TRFC Ltd are already favoured by being allowed to claim falsely to be the same club as Rangers FC (IL) ( now called Rangers 2012 ) ,and allowed to trade on that name and claim the sporting entitlements and achievements.
The football club whose shares were purchased/swapped for shares put on offer in the Initial Public Offer of Rangers International FC plc were the shares in The Ranger Football Club Ltd and NOT those of the liquidated Rangers FC of 1872( which, in liquidation, had no place in the market!)
I believe the IPO was fundamentally flawed in that in my opinion it mislead prospective investors by implying that the company in which they were invited to invest by RIFC plc was the original and genuine Rangers FC founded in 1872.
The prospectus glides over why it is 'TRFC Ltd ' all of a sudden, and uses 'Rangers' in two different contexts, and expressions such as 'the assets and business of the club' ,in such way as to imply without positively stating as a fact-(which would have been deliberately untrue) that TRFC Ltd is the same Rangers, bought out of Administration as going concern ,and that Rangers 2012 (IL) is somehow not the Rangers of 1872.
It is a brilliantly deceitful use of language, and, although effective, its effectiveness cannot remove the underlying con!
The SFA that allowed that Prospectus to go unchallenged, the SFA that devised and created the 5-Way Agreement, thirled itself for ever by secret Non Disclosure Agreement to keep schtum about the whole deception.
And, sadly if not surprisingly, we have no reason to believe that any new Board will have members brave and honest enough to let the truth, the simple truth, be declared: that TRFC Ltd has no title to claim to be the Rangers of 1872, and therefore cannot possibly be allowed to continue to claim to be so.[
Personally, I dream of the day when some big shareholder of RIFC plc shares raises an action about the Prospectus and how it was written, having believed from the Prospectus that he was actually buying shares in the most successful club in the world, only to find….
Just heard it reported that the individual cheat known as Lance Armstrong, is unrepentant and wouldn't change anything. (Radio Scotland news item a wee while ago)
What kind of minds have those sportsmen who 'win' competitions' by cheating?
What kind of 'sportsmen' run sports clubs on the basis of cheating?
And what kind of Sports governance body allows a sports club to live on the basis of its cheating? Or has such disregard for the honours genuinely won by one club to be claimed by a club that did not exist when those honours were competed for and won?
Answers that do not include the word 'corrupt' will NOT be accepted [ unless of course I cheat!
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RMcGeddawn 24th May 2019 at 13:56
'…Again this will be described as the cost of good night out.'
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How many people must have signed that 'x-Way agreement'?
The worlds of 'big biz' and politics have nothing to learn from little piddly sports governance bodies when it comes to keeping certain things undisclosed.
To be honest, I expected more of a reaction to how the WFA dealt with the cheating ways of Bangor. It would appear it was an easy path for the WFA to negotiate, as WFA officials were not conflicted in any way, when doing so.
Unfortunately in Scotland, when payments to Rangers(I.L.), players were declared, "Unlawful", by the Supreme court, very little was made of the fact that SFA officials, including the president, Campbell Ogilvie, were themselves in receipt of the very same "Unlawful", payments, secreted to them via shady off-shore swag-bags.
The very same SFA officials, who were deeply involved in not only deciding the fate of the now deceased club, but were instrumental in granting them an unwarranted death defying Euro license.
Could it be argued these "Unlawful",off-shore payments were tantamount to bribery?
Or would the argument be that the "Unlawful", payments left them susceptible to blackmail?
Either way, the only thing beyond argument, is the proven fact, that high ranking SFA officials accepted "Unlawful", undeclared payments from an association member club under their so called governance.
Even after all these years, it still reeks. I make no apologies for calling those in receipt of unlawful payments, the co-accused.
Co-accused who operated from a position of trust.
StevieBC 24th May 2019 at 10:53
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Well, we all saw that ‘Armageddon’ and ‘social unrest’ didn’t happen when Rangers died in 2012.
‘Numerous clubs’ didn’t die either because of the loss of the blue pound.
Football carried on in Scotland.
Arguably, it became a much better place in the SPL.
A lack of crowd trouble, a lack of dodgy singing, a lack of on field violence, much reduced nonsense in the SMSM, more clubs winning trophies, and much, much less controversy involving referees.
I preferred the SPL without a deviant Ibrox club.
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Happy Days.
But the lower leagues had to endure a deviant Ibrox club. for a season or more while the SPL had tranquility for a few seasons.
I wonder if the SFA and the SPFL ever thought for a moment the monster that was created would be so much hassle?
Corrupt official 24th May 2019 at 20:34
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To be honest i never expected any SMSM to run comparisons or full page articles on the difference between the WFA’s handling of the situation to the SFA’S handling of the cheating ways of rangers.
And i got what i expected from the SMSM.
Move along nothing to see or report here.
Some Charles Green business today, it seems.
COURT OF SESSION
CALLING LIST
Friday 24th May
A54/19 Mr Charles Alexander Green AG (1) The Chief Constable of Police Scotland and others.
Jones Whyte Law
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No indication of the nature of the business, but it looks as though it was a routine kind of thing, perhaps not requiring counsel's presence, or submissions, or whatever.
I must really find out what these various entries in the 'rolls' mean!
John Clark 24th May 2019 at 22:00
No indication of the nature of the business, but it looks as though it was a routine kind of thing, perhaps not requiring counsel's presence, or submissions, or whatever.
I must really find out what these various entries in the 'rolls' mean!
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From the CoS User Guide
Callings
To lodge a case for calling, you need to present the signeted Summons with the Execution of Service included at the back of the Summons, and a calling slip. The calling slip must include the names of the pursuer and defender, the case reference number and the pursuer’s agent’s name. Counter staff will check the service of the Summons, and the details on the calling slip. You will then be advised upon which day the case will call.
My reading of the above is that Green has already formally lodged his complaint against Police Scotland with the court (the "signeted Summons"), and was assigned a case number. That case called today. I'd imagine that the judge would hear an outline from Green's legal team about what is alleged. The judge would then decide, based of the nature of the claim, how the case should proceed.
It will be at a very early stage in the court process.
Case number A51/19, close to that of Green's, was called on 26 March in respect of Imran Ahmad so I suspect that there will be some common ground between the two.
A51/19 Imran Ahmad AG (First) Iain Livingstone, Chief Constable of Police Scotland &c
The actions by Clark and Whitehouse against Police Scotland have case numbers A293/16 and A295/16 so again those actions appear to have been coordinated.
easyJambo 24th May 2019 at 23:28
'..From the CoS User Guide
Callings…'
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Good man yourself, eJ.
I thought it would be something like that, since only one lawyer was named.
I had no previous note of Charles getting into the damages claim area, and couldn't rely on memory!
I see from this link
https://www.parliament.scot/msps/register-of-interests.aspx
that Derek Mackay was happy in 2017 to declare he had received 'hospitality' of £2400 paid for by Macklin Enterprise Partnerships Ltd [ an equity investment company] at the 'the remarks by Barak H Obama ' event organised by the [Tom] Hunter Foundation [a charity]
It's queer that he has not declared the hospitality provided in France by folk connected with the sports cheat whose reckless hubris was the real cause of the death of Rangers of 1872, folk who are deeply into a huge development project in west Edinburgh.
That may be down to the fact that lamb, succulent or otherwise, was not on the menu, and so the whole event was forgettable.
It would not ever be because of fear that any ministerial decision he might make about how our money is spent might be thought of as having been in consequence of his having been royally wined and dined by those who were looking for our money, or planning consent and such like.
Wash out your filthy minds, ye who read this!
But it might be useful if Mackay would now register the fact that he had enjoyed ( no matter that lamb was not on the menu) the hospitality of persons associated with SDM.
Just to reassure folk .
Normally cheer for the underdog but today for selfish European reasons I'll be cheering for Celtic!!
Hail hail etc
John Clark 24th May 2019 at 18:48
Just heard it reported that the individual cheat known as Lance Armstrong, is unrepentant and wouldn't change anything. (Radio Scotland news item a wee while ago)
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In the late 1980's and the 90's Rangers were supported by a Scottish owned bank to a level way beyond what any reasonable business case could be made for. In 1994 that same bank did all it could to put Celtic out of business for a fraction of the debt Rangers had. Roll on into the early part of the new millennium and Rangers were cheating the public purse out of tens of millions which went on for a decade. Between the bank money, and the money stolen from the public purse, Rangers enjoyed huge success. It was such a false position, yet they and their fans, and their huge number of media backers have the audacity to laud those days as one of the greatest periods in Rangers history. It was cheating on a scale never seen before in British football, but the right handshake and knowing the age of one’s Granny cleared it all as okay. It is quite incredible when those who appoint themselves as moral guardians of society have to answer to nobody at all, and believe no matter how corrupt they are they they always act with dignity.
Only in Scotland…the same Scotland we are told by the ruling party is the most equal and welcoming country in the world. Words fail me….
upthehoops 25th May 2019 at 09:27
Rangers were cheating the public purse out of tens of millions which went on for a decade. Between the bank money, and the money stolen from the public purse, Rangers enjoyed huge success. It was such a false position, yet they and their fans, and their huge number of media backers have the audacity to laud those days as one of the greatest periods in Rangers history. It was cheating on a scale never seen before in British football,
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From Phil’s latest.
https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2019/05/24/sevco-investing-in-roof-development/
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Is anything down ibrox way done in a straight line?
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Bill1903 25th May 2019 at 06:35
Normally cheer for the underdog but today for selfish European reasons I’ll be cheering for Celtic!!
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Down ibrox way they will be cheering anything but celtic just for selfish reasons.
Cluster One 25th May 2019 at 10:13
'…From Phil’s latest…'
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In the interests of strictest accuracy, I have to make this observation:
A look at Companies House records shows that:
28.07.14 Rangers FC Development Fund Ltd adopted new Articles of Association
"Article 2 –Objects of the Company
2.1 the Company's objects are
a) to carry on business to promote a good cause namely the objects and activities of the Youth football programme….. etc etc
b) any other trade or business which may seem to the company and its directors to be advantageous and to directly or indirectly enhance all or any of the business of the company.
2.2 Notwithstanding Article 2.1 the Company's objects are unrestricted"
These Articles appear to allow the (now) Rangers FC Youth Development Company Ltd to do what they like with the money they get via Rangers Pools Ltd!
The following might be of some interest.
31.07.14 Accounts show Net liabilities £59,413
Reserves: Deficit on current a/c £59,413
Auditor's report says " ..the company's subsidiary undertaking, Rangers Lotteries Ltd …….has also confirmed to the Company that it will provide such financial support as is required …The company's financial statements therefore continue to be presented on the basis of a going concern.."
09.07.15 The name of the Company was changed to Rangers Football Club Youth Development Company Ltd.
31.7.15 Accounts show Balance Sheet net liabilities £18,923
Reserves deficit £18,923
31.07.16 Accounts show: Donations received ……………………. £208,140
Surplus before disbursements …………. £199,865
Disbursement to The Rangers FC Ltd….. £161,908
Surplus for financial year ………… £37,897
31.07.17 Accounts show surplus £195,740
disbursement to TRFC Ltd £180,000
31.07.18 Accounts show surplus £321,260
disbursement to TRFC Ltd £321,260
It would seem that the money brought in to the Youth Development club goes straight into the common purse and is not in any way ring-fenced for 'youth development'.
An 'emotional' appeal to help 'Youth Development' possibly works better than admitting that the club hasn't all the brass it needs to fix the roof and meet all its other commitments.
One of my neighbours , after today's game –
" Never hear the end of this . Wish we'd stayed dead . " Wonder who he supports !
PS It was banter .
Reports that Neil Lennon has been offered the Celtic job full time!
John James will be surprised !!!
Bill1903 25th May 2019 at 06:35
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Normally cheer for the underdog but today for selfish European reasons I’ll be cheering for Celtic!!
Hail hail etc smiley
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European football for Aberdeen then
All credit to the Jambos who almost p*ssed on our bonfire. Chapeau.
Haw thumb-dooner……Got something to say?…..Get it aff your chist son !
lol
Now the season is almost over for most clubs, this is when the SMSM have a free hand in speculation just to try and sell a few more copies of their daily rags. Remember and look out for. A spokesperson said. A source close to the action. It's been rumourd. It's been known. And a taxi driver said. Find these and many other examples in articles and you know it is just made up pi** for the most part….. Happy new year….Well it feels like it.
Following my accurate assertion that Clarke would never take on the Scotland job…
Can't help feeling a bit puzzled at CFC's announcement that Lennon "had been offered the job".
Shirley, the announcement should have been that he had accepted the job permanently?
And why wasn't the announcement made immediately after the Hearts game last week?
I blame SFM for increasing my cynicism and paranoia!
JJ has taken the appointment of Neil Lennon as permanent manager pretty badly.
john james @sitonfence
I think it’s only right that I offer my resignation. I invite those who have supported our site to cast one vote by way of a comment. If the majority of same accept my resignation I will retire our site and stop writing.
That what happens when you rely on not so impeccable sources. I wonder if there will be another tearful departure should he give up the blog he loves. #JJEXIT
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prosecutors-pay-boohoo-broker-richard-hughes-over-tax-fiasco-zw3wqhpz8
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The payment, understood to be one of the largest in its history, came after the collapse of the prosecution of Richard Hughes, founder of Zeus Capital, the broker that advised on the buyout of Rangers FC and the float of fast-fashion retailer Boohoo.
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Is there no one in this ibrox saga that has not been in court for one reason or another?
Wee hat tip for moo as i seen this on his twitter