Where transparency exists accountability inevitably follows.
This is an extract from a post on SFM from 2015. The subject was Transparency and Slow Glass
The message then was that football governance has to catch up in realising that football has to become more transparent in its dealing with supporters and so more accountable to them.
That transparency is already here via social media because of the ability to share, but the light of truth is constrained by Slow Glass.
Slow Glass from a short story by Bob Shaw slows down the light passing through it.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_of_Other_Days
In the story and others, you have Slow Glass of different thickness in terms of the time it takes for the light to emerge.
You have Glass a day thick/long to Glass ten years thick/long and more.
Resolution 12, if measured from the Celtic AGM in 2013 when it was tabled and adjourned, has taken 6 years for the light of truth to emerge, although it could have happened sooner had main stream media removed the dust of PR that slows the light, but light is inexorable and it is emerging at an archive of events since 2011 that can be read at
https://www.res12.uk/
It is in two parts.
Part One relates to events in 2011/12 including a very interesting link between UEFA Licence 2011 and the commissioning of Lord Nimmo Smith to investigate use of EBTs with side letters by Rangers FC where non-disclosure benefited Rangers FC in 2011 AND 2012.
Part Two concentrates SFA activity (or lack of it) from 2014 to date as result of the adjournment of Resolution 12 in November 2013 that provided shareholders with the authority to seek answers.
The archive has been constructed in chronological sequence to help readers understand better the detail and separate what took place in 2011/12 which is in the past, from the SFA handling of shareholders legitimate enquiries from 2014/15 to date, which remains current and is a mirror of SFA performance in respect of the national football team.
Many narratives will emerge as a result of the transparency, some Celtic related, but a system of governance, that is accountable in some way to supporters as stakeholders in the game, can only benefit the supporters of all clubs and they are encouraged to read through the archive.
As Phil Mac Giolla Bhain has written here in respect of Celtic and the SFA
accountability has to be the outcome of transparency to wipe the face and soul of Scottish football clean.
How that is achieved will be up to Scottish football supporters everywhere to take forward via their Associations and Trusts, in collaboration with the clubs they support, but it does seem to me, and I know others with more legal experience, that the SFA would find it difficult to resist a challenge to their refusal to engage with people (in this case minority shareholders of member clubs) who are affected by decisions that they make.
Dave King has sent out a statement to ST holders along with an invitation to renew, with a 5% increase.
A few extracts:
Concomitant with his previous statements, King has introduced another new word to the football vocabulary: "inculcated"
"Steven’s passion, professionalism and winning mentality has been inculcated throughout the football activities at all levels and we have seen strong benefits from this. Of significance was our first, strong European campaign for many years."
easyJambo 15th April 2019 at 11:43
After looking up the definition of 'inculcate' I have to admit it is a suitable word to use around Ibrox as it could be, in fact must be, true that the supporters of both clubs to have played their home games at Ibrox have been inculcated with a unique brand of bile, hatred, sectarianism and bigotry.
Inculcate: instil (an idea, attitude, or habit) by persistent instruction.
“Ex-Rangers stars face huge tax bills after failing to agree EBT deal”
This is a headline for an article in The Scotsman online edition. Old news I know but that old club/company thingy gets an airing again. Seems some ex players believe the club should pay their bills.
I note the fundamental insecurity of the TRFC Ltd Board, who must always trot out the 'Big Lie' that TRFC Ltd is the self-same Rangers FC that "…won – by quite some distance – more trophies than any other club in the world."- even while that self-same Rangers is alive but in Liquidation, and TRFC Ltd did not exist prior to 2012!
This is so palpably not legally the case that the Board have to resort to constant repetition to try, as shaky,illegitimate political regimes have to do, to make an untruth true.
(And by heavens, don't they badly need someone who can write their scripts! That statement as any kind of communication is a bloody disgrace)
A teaser from JJ.
"Sevco 5088 allegations must be seen to be believed. Please revert to https://johnjamessite.com/; for details. Exclusive."
easyJambo
15th April 2019 at 11:31
every fan should know that the season-ticket revenue will solely go towards the first-team squad.
When did Close Brothers become part of the first team squad and aren't there registration issues 😉
easyJambo 15th April 2019 at 16:44
'..A teaser from JJ.
"Sevco 5088 allegations must be seen to be believed. .'
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Given that there are still one or two cases relating to Craig Whyte (and perhaps touching on the Administration and ownership of the assets) that are still under reporting restrictions here in this jurisdiction, I wonder if the English Court has or will impose restrictions?
Ex Ludo 15th April 2019 at 14:41
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“Ex-Rangers stars face huge tax bills after failing to agree EBT deal”
This is a headline for an article in The Scotsman online edition. Old news I know but that old club/company thingy gets an airing again. Seems some ex players believe the club should pay their bills.
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0h!Dear, Something we spoke about on SFM some weeks ago. I take it the wife’s are not too happy with the thought of Bankruptcy.
Popcorn anyone?
easyJambo 15th April 2019 at 11:31
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Dave King has sent out a statement to ST holders along with an invitation to renew, with a 5% increase.
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I see the start of the squirrels has begun.
A pretty poor statement from Celtic about the offensive chanting aimed at McInnes. Whataboutery at its finest when the club's spokesperson uses more words to condemn other fans than it does to condemn their own fans actions.
They would have been better saying nothing.
Easyjambo @21:59 , couldn't agree more. CFC should have settled for condemning the behaviour of the bigots. The additional comments were unnecessary and showed a lack of class – almost as bad as a former trfc statement scribe Graham.
A quick look at a main bears' site shows that the fans are simply not buying King's BS.
…but they'll probably renew their ST's : even with an inflation busting price increase.
And as for King educating us – again – on big words in his statement…
We do know that to communicate effectively, you have to pitch your message to your audience.
King wasn't doing his sales pitch to English teachers.
And he has betrayed another weakness: he doesn't actually know who are his ST customers.
Because King is not really a TRFC fan, IMO.
And, I don't think he is that interested in the game at all – as evidenced by his perennial absence from TRFC games.
[Tax status notwithstanding.]
One word that becomes very familiar to Masons is "Inculcate." It is brought to light by its mention in the first, or Entered Apprentice Degree.
(Apparently, albeit fittingly. I’m no wordsmith nor expert in the craft).
INCULCATE
Celtic is in there if you juggle it about; mind you, so too is lunatic.
Can anyone raise me lunatic?
stifflersmom – fair play.
Mibbees King did pitch his message more accurately after all?
Can't better 'lunatic', but for relevance I proffer;
clat
noun (1) \ ˈklat\ plural -s
Definition of clat (Entry 1 of 4) dialectal, British : a clot or clod (as of dirt or dung)
also : a dirty condition : MESS
The lack of action by the SFA on the continued sectarian chanting/incursions/pyrotechnics etc is being brought into sharp focus by Derek McInnes's understandable emotional reaction to the incessant taunting endured as he watched his game plan disintegrate.It has to be pointed out though that Celtic have been proactive in partial ground closure and it is good to see Hearts taking a similar stand.To some the Celtic statement is whataboutery, to my mind it is laced with a sense of frustration at the silence of the authorities on these matters for such a long a time.
stifflersmom 15th April 2019 at 23:00
'.One word that becomes very familiar to Masons is "Inculcate…'
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''Hillsborough Lodge No. 25 F. & A.M.[Florida]
Inculcation of the Noblest Virtues
One word that becomes very familiar to Masons is "Inculcate."…It means to learn by repetition. Masons participate in degrees, learn catechisms and listen to lectures many times over. Masons inculcate, and learn by saying things over and over again."
hillsborough25.org/masonic_noble_virtues.html
What was I saying earlier about repetition of the 'Big Lie'?
Yer man Dave clearly reads his handbook!
Doesn't make him a bad man, of course.
It's his criminal convictions that do that!
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And, in my view, his bloody stupidity in writing the kind of dross he writes as a 'statement'. Even JT couldn't write something worse than King's latest, although it might be a close-run thing!
GunnerB@23.47
Of course if the SFA did start to apply sanctions then ALL clubs (and companies) would have to be included. I don’t believe the SFA are willing to go down that road and are waiting on politicians taking responsibility away from them. In the words of Bob Dylan “Mama take this badge away from me, I can’t use it any more”
Delog is a good Tibetan word that Dave is probably familiar with .
stifflersmom 15th April 2019 at 23:00 Celtic is in there if you juggle it about; mind you, so too is lunatic. Can anyone raise me lunatic? …………….. Four letter word that begins with a C But i'm to polite to say.
I have to say I find the so called objections to 'whataboutery' rather frustrating. We live in a country where many, including in the media, only see and hear what suits their agenda. Bizarrely we still have some football fans who take the moral high ground. I accept most fans are decent but a reminder of the widespread faults within our game does no harm at all. Perhaps clubs could be more proactive, but neither should any club be willing to see itself singled out.
As far as I am led to believe mcinnes getting sent off had very little to do with reacting to the so called chants that is just the deflection tactic he is using he reacted more than once to these so called chants but he was seemingly sent off for encroaching onto the pitch whilst trying to get some instructions to the far side of the park the 4th official told him to remove himself from the pitch mcinnes then blew up at the official and that was when he was sent off. IMO Celtic were correct to call out the dons fans regarding what they were shouting and what they were shouting is easily verified as they have posted stuff on social media. https://www.facebook.com/100010895113956/videos/813291052377391/
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4InIjrXoAkyier.jpg
Ryan Christie and 50/50 ball.
So mcinnes thinks the above 2 pics are the same. I suppose they are in the sense that both dons players have missed the ball and caught the man instead.
“Delivering judgement he said: “This case concerns the transfer of the Rangers Football Club in 2012.
“The club was in fact sold but not to the claimant, it was sold to a different company. It effectively stepped into the shoes of the claimant.”
A quote from Master Bartlett in a London court as also reported by the Daily Record.
Although I think the two incidents are different – Mackay-Steven's momentum and follow through hits Boyata rather than Boyata hitting him – Mackay-Steven does not miss the ball. He has already won the header before the picture shown above.
Chants about Paedophiles and telling people they are in the wrong country have no place at a football match (clearly, nor do the sectarian chants from Celtic fans).
The fact the media are willing to overlook these incidents and the regular anti-Catholic songs sung on a regular basis, while going to town on an anti-Protestant chant means that at some point, someone has to call this out. If you are outraged by Celtic pointing this out, then you are helping to deflect and control the narrative.
Great to see the name 'Sevco' being widely reported – if reluctantly – across the SMSM!
And better still is the return of
'Sevco 5088'
&
'Sevco Scotland'
It's a helpful reminder – after 7 long years of fibbing by the SMSM about TRFC being Rangers – that Rangers did in fact die in 2012 as a football team.
NCLBhoy 16th April 2019 at 10:55
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Agreed. We cannot continue like this and somebody has to call it out. When I say somebody I mean as many people as possible but it would be good if the SFA could take the lead.
The SFA statements to date have tried as much as possible to disown leadership or taking any real action by declaring it to be a problem of wider Scottish society, which of course it is. Therefore, wider action is required.
However, I'm coming round to the idea of strict liability. Once teams are censured, fined, fans banned/jailed, grounds closed, points deducted it will soon stop.
I hope Police Scotland are up to the job of enforcing the law as it currently stands too!
Shug @ 10.37
So mcinnes thinks the above 2 pics are the same. I suppose they are in the sense that both dons players have missed the ball and caught the man instead.
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NCLBhoy @ 10.48
Although I think the two incidents are different – Mackay-Steven's momentum and follow through hits Boyata rather than Boyata hitting him – Mackay-Steven does not miss the ball. He has already won the header before the picture shown above.
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Thank you for pointing that out NCLBhoy.
Ex Ludo 16th April 2019 at 10:46
'…A quote from Master Bartlett in a London court.'
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Sorry, m'Lud, The club was sold to Craig Whyte. It went into Administration. The Administrators (in my view) made a pig's ear of trying to find a buyer so that it could be brought out Administration.
They could not sell the club as a going concern, not having been able to find a buyer. They sold some of the assets (they could not legally sell the playing staff because their contracts with RFC were nullified by liquidation and any of them were free to walk away-and some did!)The club as a footballing entity went into Liquidation and is still in that state.
The dispute between Sevco5088 and SevcoScotland was over which of them had title to the assets of a liquidated football club, not over who had bought 'the club' as a going concern!
And loose and imprecise use of language is not an encouraging feature to find in a judgment.
Ex Ludo 16th April 2019 at 10:46
“Delivering judgement he said: “This case concerns the transfer of the Rangers Football Club in 2012.
“The club was in fact sold but not to the claimant, it was sold to a different company. It effectively stepped into the shoes of the claimant.”
A quote from Master Bartlett in a London court as also reported by the Daily Record.
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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/craig-whyte-sevco-firm-wins-14337292
Reading the article, I'm unsure about the current status of Sevco 5088’s £5.1m claim. It seems that Sevco 5088 was granted a default judgement against Green and Ahmad earlier this year.
However, Sevco 5088 also appears to have agreed to have that judgement set aside, but has been awarded legal costs.
I am left not knowing if the case has now ended or will be subject to a new trial of the facts now that Ahmad has acknowledged the claim.
JohnClark@
It would certainly appear that the various QC’s and indeed Mr Bartlett do not have a grasp of the details in this case. I would imagine that some background work was done by Scottish solicitors in advance. It’s quite an important point in law that the club wasn’t sold to whichever Sevco is relevant in this case.
easyJambo 16th April 2019 at 14:08
'…I am left not knowing if the case has now ended..'
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And my brain has fogged over , trying to remember whether this is in any way related to the Henderson and Jones claim, which when last heard of seemed to be being discussed 'settlement-wise' between BDO and H&J.
Ex Ludo 16th April 2019 at 14:25
'…I would imagine that some background work was done by Scottish solicitors in advance.'
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And I find myself remembering with amusement how several QCs, not to mention the occasional judge or three, over the years since 2012 , have been very careful not to use language that might have suggested that they personally thought that Rangers and its history had died!
And there was a kind of Alice-in-Wonderland unreality n one early occasion when someone began to wax eloquent about a 'club' being the 'what it's all about -ness' , the spirit, that can't die.
Although on that occasion there were smiles at the exaggerated nonsense, no one was brave enough to say 'Rubbish! RFC is in liquidation and in footballing term has ceased to exist"
Am I alone in taking Master Bartlett's use of the words 'the club' in the context he used them in as merely as an abbreviation of 'The Rangers Football Club'? He used the full title in the previous sentence (as reported in the press, anyway) & therefore didn't require to do so again.
(Wouldn't the legal papers likely use the abbreviation 'the club' after the first use of 'The Rangers Football Club' anyway?)
John Clark 16th April 2019 at 14:30
easyJambo 16th April 2019 at 14:08
'…I am left not knowing if the case has now ended..'
And my brain has fogged over , trying to remember whether this is in any way related to the Henderson and Jones claim, which when last heard of seemed to be being discussed 'settlement-wise' between BDO and H&J.
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I don't think the two cases are directly linked.
H&J was seeking to exploit the floating charge that Wavetower (TRFCL) held over the assets when the Oldco went into administration/liquidation.
The latest case would appear to be Sevco 5088 seeking return of the funds that Green and Ahmad allegedly diverted (novated?) to Sevco Scotland i.e. the "switcheroo".
Jingojimsie@15.04
My take on the use of the word club implies that the club was purchased from the administrators rather than just some of the major assets which we know to be the case. The debts were left behind with RFC (IL) and a number of high profile players left too. Even Walter Smith wished the new club (Sevco) every success. It was remiss of Master Bartlett to make such a misleading statement.
Ex Ludo 16th April 2019 at 17:04
The Peepul will pounce on that interpretation of "Club", as expressed by a High Court Judge ( a Master, no less) down in that there London, in Englandshire.
Unless it suits one party to argue that Sevco (whichever one) only bought the assets, and not the club, then I doubt either party would wish to complicate the argument by introducing the new club/old club debate. Time, as they say, is money, and no more so than in a court of law, so it is in the interest of both sides to be as expeditious as possible and avoid any unnecessary complicated discussions that won't affect the outcome.
I'd imagine this may have been dealt with at an earlier hearing where it was decided that it was in neither party's interest to refer to anything other than 'Rangers Football Club Ltd' and/or 'the club'.
RangersNil@17.53
It might not be fans per se but rather a journalist who may be inclined to point out the significance of that term. Of course the quote was used in the DR online edition so….
Allyjambo 16th April 2019 at 19:38
'..this may have been dealt with at an earlier hearing where it was decided that it was in neither party's interest to refer to anything other than 'Rangers Football Club Ltd' and/or 'the club'."..'
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I think , Aj, that, after day one when the banner headlines (Bravo JT!) proclaimed the death of Rangers and its 140 years of history, in every circle of Scottish society -Government, the Press, the BBC, the Law, and Business and Commerce, 'knowing' men exchanged glances and nods, and the lesser men quickly buttoned their lips lest they made incautious career- damaging ,or pay-packet-threatening references to the extinction of a famous football club.
It's hard otherwise to explain the grotesque acceptance of the 5-Way Agreement , the refusal to stop using words like 'relegated to he third division', or 'being back in the Premier league' or 'adding to their record of titles and trophies': and the failure of anyone other than the RES 12 boys to dig into the possibly criminal award of a UEFA licence o an unentitled club dying for want of cash!
There is something very, very rotten when the baddies are protected by those who are supposed to be the upholders of sporting and legal truth, and by those whose journalistic ethics require them to seek the truth.
easyJambo 16th April 2019 at 16:37
'..H&J was seeking to exploit the floating charge that Wavetower (TRFCL) held over the assets when the Oldco went into administration/liquidation…….'
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That's it,of course. I think I was subconsciously equating title under the 'floating charge' to title to the assets pure and simple.
Sevco 5088 once owned by ex-Rangers chief Craig Whyte awarded legal costs
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17576744.sevco-5088-once-owned-by-ex-rangers-chief-craig-whyte-awarded-legal-costs/
God the article can’t even get the dates right.
And on the 12 May 2010 the club administrators and the claimant entered into an agreement into which if the CVA was not approved by the 11 June the claimants would purchase the club for £5.3million.
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I think , Aj, that, after day one when the banner headlines (Bravo JT!) proclaimed the death of Rangers and its 140 years of history, in every circle of Scottish society -Government, the Press, the BBC, the Law, and Business and Commerce, 'knowing' men exchanged glances and nods, and the lesser men quickly buttoned their lips lest they made incautious career- damaging ,or pay-packet-threatening references to the extinction of a famous football club. It's hard otherwise to explain the grotesque acceptance of the 5-Way Agreement , the refusal to stop using words like 'relegated to he third division', or 'being back in the Premier league' or 'adding to their record of titles and trophies': and the failure of anyone other than the RES 12 boys to dig into the possibly criminal award of a UEFA licence o an unentitled club dying for want of cash! There is something very, very rotten when the baddies are protected by those who are supposed to be the upholders of sporting and legal truth, and by those whose journalistic ethics require them to seek the truth.
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Totally agree with you John, but the point I was making is that the legal teams will only make legal arguments in court of things pertinent to the case they are dealing with. Regardless of why this particular oldco/newco debate is taboo within the Scottish establishment, SMSM etc, if it is considered an argument outwith the bounds of the case, itself, it will not be raised, even if relatively uncontentious, and the use of the word 'club' to describe the asset(s) involved in the case will, no doubt, be used in the interests of brevity.
On the other hand, if one of the parties considered it would strengthen their case to argue that the 'club' was not sold to one of the Sevcos, then I am sure they would not hesitate to use it. In addition, the legal teams of both parties will frame their arguments around what their clients tell them, and, again, if neither party tells them that 'the club' died, or instructed them to use any other description than 'the club', then neither legal team is going to use any other term.
What this means is that we shouldn't read too much into the court description of the entity sold as being any more than expediency on the part of those involved, and not cowardice or establishment bias of the kind we have previously witnessed. At the same time, unless there is an argument that requires reference to the old club/new club debate, then nothing said can point to favouring the same club argument.
I am sure, too, that there will be a number cases where a liquidated company's assets have been sold and in a subsequent court action those assets were referred to as 'the company' or 'the business' where neither party to the case has any interest in arguing otherwise.
Ref the accuracy or otherwise that the description of “Club” could have, you can’t help thinking the potential financiers of Bolton Wanderers 5088 Ltd are watching on with interest.
Ajax beating Juve.
Ajax through to semi final.
I notice that no-one from the media has dared to go near the part of Dave King's statement the other day which claims Rangers always act with dignity, and that they are treated under a different set of rules. I can only guess the reporting guidelines they were given from Rangers PR instructed them not to go there.
If Rangers always act with dignity then the meaning of the word clearly needs to be re-written. Dignity equals calm, serious, controlled behaviour which makes you worthy of the respect of others. Dave King needs to 'wake up and smell the coffee' as Fergus McCann liked to say. I am sure King is one of many people who wish McCann had never existed.
Also, I do agree Rangers are treated under a different set of rules – that much has been clear since 2012.
“Clyde say their “unduly harsh” punishment for fielding an ineligible player is inconsistent compared to similar offences after their appeal was rejected.”
Whilst we were diverted yesterday by the London courts the Bully Wee were being bullied by the SFA. Despite citing the precedents of Hearts v Cove Rangers and Peterhead v Ayr United they lost their appeal. I wonder if the Bryson Defence had been used there might have been more success?
https://twitter.com/agentscotland/status/1118259137895456768?s=21
Gordon Smith not acting in the best interests of Scottish football.
…so that would be the ex-CEO of the governing body suggesting a customer boycott of the very same sport…
Gordon "I know nothing about anything" Smith.
Still thick as mince.
shug 16th April 2019 at 21:38
shug 16th April 2019 at 21:55
Shug, did it not occur to you that there would be readers of SFM who were recording the Ajax/Juve match, planning to watch it "as live" later?
JJ has tweeted again about the SDI v Rangers retail case.
Day three. All witness statements now concluded. Summing up at 10.30. The injunctive relief viz hard cash & costs, and further restrictions, will be eye-watering
Counsel for SDIR asked Stewart Robertson how they would be able to pay a substantial award. A cynic might suggest that the third successive 5% increase in season ticket prices since King’s hostile takeover will not be spent on the park.
I don't know if a decision on injunctive relief will be made today, but JJ seems to be suggesting that it will be. Whether or not such an award will be "eye watering" remains to be seen.
The Rangers nil? Who missed the penalty?
shug 16th April 2019 at 21:38
shug 16th April 2019 at 21:55
Shug, did it not occur to you that there would be readers of SFM who were recording the Ajax/Juve match, planning to watch it "as live" later?
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Nope never occurred to me. So I guess they were watching Barca pump the man u shame.
https://twitter.com/bbcsportscot/status/1118410843421589504?s=21
Squirrel season begins in earnest.
Ex Ludo 17th April 2019 at 07:43 https://twitter.com/agentscotland/status/1118259137895456768?s=21 Gordon Smith not acting in the best interests of Scottish football.
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If any proof was required as to just how unsuitable Gordon Smith was to even be an SFA tea boy, let alone CEO, that article proves it.
The CEO of any business should be loyal to that business for the rest of his life after leaving, regardless of his affiliations elsewhere, unless, of course, he was, and remains, a man of low morals, integrity and/or is completely stupid. In fact, it could be said that his latest nonsensical rant is concomitant with being inculcated during his days at Ibrox.
For a start there is no chance that TRFC will refuse to play at Rugby Park, nor that even they would consider it, though their low level PR machine operator may well have had a word in the shell-like of a pet mouth for sale. The fallout for TRFC would be immense if they tried that one on, for I doubt UEFA would let any club off with that, regardless of how the inculcated SFA and SPFL would like to deal with it.
I think Gordon Smith is trying very hard to be remembered for something other than that miss in the FA Cup final, all those years ago.
Shug, did it not occur to you that there would be readers of SFM who were recording the Ajax/Juve match, planning to watch it "as live" later?
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Nope never occurred to me. So I guess they were watching Barca pump the man u shame.
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It's disappointing, Shug, that you gave no thought to the possibility that posting an in-match update and revealing the final result might ruin many of your fellow SFMers' plans to enjoy the game on re-run.
If you're too young to have seen the iconic episode of "The Likely Lads" (where Bob and Terry try to avoid finding out the score in an England International match because they planned to watch the highlights in the evening only to discover, when settling themselves in front of the telly, that the game had been abandoned and wouldn't be shown), your thoughtlessness can possibly be forgiven, but if you're not I think that a charge of "Not Acting in the Best Interests of Scottish Football (Monitor)" might be laid at your door.
easyJambo 17th April 2019 at 09:58 "….
'…..JJ has tweeted again about the SDI v Rangers retail case.'
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JJ has tweeted again about the SDI v Rangers retail case.
'……Counsel for SDIR asked Stewart Robertson how they would be able to pay a substantial award.….'
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Ah, the old 'impecuniosity' plea!!
Robertson following in his master's footsteps? Only, perhaps, in the case of TRFC Ltd it might well be next to being true!
Do the TRFC senior managers actually manage their business…
or do they simply spend all their time preparing for their next Court appearance?
I think we should be told.
"Football Insider" has done a PR piece on the value of Rangers Europa League run. There's no corresponding assessment of how much any other Scottish side earned.
I suppose that the windfall could be usefully applied to their never ending court bills.
JJ seems very confident that the costs etc to TRFC will be off the radar. And yes, I have resisted the temptation to pay for a password for his site.
Allyjambo 16th April 2019 at 20:59
'…In addition, the legal teams of both parties will frame their arguments around what their clients tell them, and, again, if neither party tells them that 'the club' died, or instructed them to use any other description than 'the club', then neither legal team is going to use any other term…'
Yes, I appreciate that, Aj. QCs don't get to be QC's by introducing factors that are not immediately germane to the issue immediately in dispute!
Nevertheless, in those early days, there was for me the feeling that perhaps a majority of those present would by inclination ,education, family background, social circumstances, or professional expediency list themselves in the ranks of the deniers .Pretty much like a number in the BBC and the print SMSM. Not to mention the SFA!
Allyjambo 17th April 2019 at 11:33
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Ex Ludo 17th April 2019 at 07:43 https://twitter.com/agentscotland/status/1118259137895456768?s=21 Gordon Smith not acting in the best interests of Scottish football.
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If any proof was required as to just how unsuitable Gordon Smith was to even be an SFA tea boy, let alone CEO, that article proves it.
The CEO of any business should be loyal to that business for the rest of his life after leaving, regardless of his affiliations elsewhere, unless, of course, he was, and remains, a man of low morals, integrity and/or is completely stupid. In fact, it could be said that his latest nonsensical rant is concomitant with being inculcated during his days at Ibrox.
For a start there is no chance that TRFC will refuse to play at Rugby Park,
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You can just see the faces of the ibrox fan base if they agreed with that to later find out they have forfeited 6 points and 6 goals and would struggle to make europe.And a heavy fine.
Gordon Smith is a clown.
I'm encouraged by Billy Bowie's stated intention to cut the away ticket allocations for Celtic and Rangers fans at Rugby Park. There is obviously a big financial risk involved, but if they can sustain the limitation longer term then I believe that it will eventually reduce the likelihood of unacceptable conduct within the stadium.
I would like to see Hearts adopt a similar policy for away fans, restricting them to maybe 1,000 or so tickets. I know that there are a lot of Hearts fans, including ST holders, that just don't go, or won't take their kids to Celtic or Rangers games at Tynecastle. If there was such a limitation then it might encourage more Hearts fans to attend, thus lessening the financial impact. There is also the added benefit that it does reduce the influence of the away fans on their own team's performance.
The Rangers nil? Who missed the penalty? 17th April 2019 at 11:5
Other than McTominey playing for Man Utd I can't see what Monitoring was required for Scottish Football in either of last night's two games.
Folks interested in the games will no doubt have had plenty access to the BBC, Sky and various other update sites and apps for the scores.
Cluster One 17th April 2019 at 15:41
'..Gordon Smith is a clown.'
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What is it about Directors, players and ex-players , and managers/ex-managers of both the now dead RFC of 1872 and the whipper-snapper of a new club called TRFC Ltd, that makes them so horrendously aggressive , constantly threatening and menacing and threat?
From Sandy Clarke, 30 feckin years on, speaking about 'wanting to kick Albert Kidd's head in' because he 'rubbed salt in the wounds' with his comments about being a Celtic supporter, through hard-man Sounness , through to McCoist through to Gordon Smith through to King…..
The never-ending (always very badly expressed in writing or in interviews) dukes-up, out-thrust jaw stance adopted as the standard PR approach is boringly repetitive and totally counter-productive.
Other club Directors/owners/ managers/players , no matter how angered they may have been, usually manage actually to BE dignified, as opposed to forever proclaiming themselves to be!
And usually manage to utter fairly diplomatically expressed disappointment or anger, all the more effective for being restrained.
With someone like Gordon Smith ever having been considered ,let alone appointed ,to the post of CEO of the SFA shows that the SFA is as barren and bereft of any kind of CEO-talent-spotting ability as is it of National Team Coach talent -spotting..
The fact that Smith feels he can encourage a football club to boycott a game
wottpi 17th April 2019 at 16:21
The Rangers nil? Who missed the penalty? 17th April 2019 at 11:5
Other than McTominey playing for Man Utd I can't see what Monitoring was required for Scottish Football in either of last night's two games.
Folks interested in the games will no doubt have had plenty access to the BBC, Sky and various other update sites and apps for the score.
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That's my point exactly, Wottpi.
There are, indeed, a plethora of ways in which folks who wanted to keep updated on the score/result could have done so, but folks who didn't want to be updated because they planned to watch it later would have avoided those platforms, and wouldn't have expected to have had the beans spilled on here.
John Clark 17th April 2019 at 16:51
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Cluster One 17th April 2019 at 15:41
‘..Gordon Smith is a clown.’
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The same Gordon smith who was outraged that he could not do his job at ibrox and walked away is now standing up for an ibrox club and feels he can encourage an ibrox football club to boycott a game.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ClusterOne2/status/1118549472760430592?p=v
https://twitter.com/8inarowherewego/status/1118262468306972672?s=21
Another squirrel ? is set free.
A number of people on Twitter now repeating the rumour that David Murray is going to invest in new Rangers. It may well be utter bollocks but does anyone think the SFA would stop him? I don't.
@TheSFMonitor Hi, I think some of your followers will find this interesting. Can't imagine it will get much coverage in Scotland: https://t.co/b5Fc0yNTHM