An Honest Game? Convince Us.

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Long time lurker, since way back in RTC days and I feel compelled to comment on the correspondence with Harper McLeod.

I doff my hat to all involved in the above letters, it is plain to see that the governors of our game have been allowed to abuse the trust given to them by the fans, from wee Sandy right through to Campbell O. And as anyone knows who has been on one side of a broken relationship, once the trust is gone there is…………well there is hee haw……… nothing……..zilch!

we have a governing body who cannot say whether a certain club is new or not, simply for fear of being on the wrong side of a violent attack as a result. ” it is up to the fans to decide” is how i recall SR answering such a question on Sportsound. This is from the CE of the SFA and he refuses to state the truth. Because in governance in sport, any sport there is only truth as it is impossible to govern using vague terms since governance requires clarity so that everyone knows the rules of play.

The game in Scotland is in total disrepute!

so a question to anyone who may know – by what process does an incorporated club become un-incorporated? or cn re-incorporate?

AYM

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Armageddon? What Armageddon?
complete stats for last 50 years – i hope these are legible

LEAGUE SCOTTISH CUP LEAGUE CUP
PREMIERSHIP W RU W RU W RU
ABERDEEN 3 10 6 4 5 6
CELTIC 25 15 19 7 12 15
DUNDEE 0 0 0 1 1 3
DUNDEE UTD 1 0 2 8 2 4
KILMARNOCK 1 0 1 0 1 2
ICT 0 0 0 0 0 1
PARTICK TH 0 0 0 0 1 0
MOTHERWELL 0 3 1 1 0 1
ROSS COUNTY 0 0 0 1 0 0
ST JOHNSTONE 0 0 1 0 0 2
ST MIRREN 0 0 1 0 1 1
HAMILTON 0 0 0 0 0 0
TOTAL 30 28 31 22 23 35

LEAGUE SCOTTISH CUP LEAGUE CUP
CHAMPIONSHIP W RU W RU W RU
THE RANGERS 0 0 0 0 0 0
HEARTS 0 5 3 4 0 2
HIBS 0 2 0 5 3 5
FALKIRK 0 0 0 2 0 0
Q.O.T.S 0 0 0 1 0 0
DUMBARTON 0 0 0 0 0 0
LIVINGSTON 0 0 0 0 1 0
RAITH ROVERS 0 0 0 0 1 0
ALLOA 0 0 0 0 0 0
COWDENBEATH 0 0 0 0 0 0
TOTAL 0 7 3 12 5 7

LEAGUE SCOTTISH CUP LEAGUE CUP
OTHER W RU W RU W RU
RANGERS* 20 15 15 9 22 5
AIRDRIE** 0 0 0 3 0 0
GRETNA* 0 0 0 1 0 0
DUNFERMLINE 0 0 1 3 0 2
AYR UTD 0 0 0 0 0 1
TOTAL 20 15 16 16 22 8

GRAND TOTAL 50 50 50 50 50 50

KEY
* NO LONGER EXIST
** NOW CLYDEBANK FC


Armageddon? What Armageddon?
Following yesterday’s splendid performance by Hamilton Accies I thought I thought I would have a look at the common take on the Championship being the more competitive league next season. In order to do so I thought I would reference the last 50 seasons in Scottish football and review winners and runners up.
I am going to use a term I do not subscribe to, however for the purpose of these figures I feel it is best understood using this term. Out of the 50 top league championships 45 have been won by either side of the old firm (sic)

so given next season’s league line ups, what league will the other winners and runners up now be performing in? And what percentage of the trophies won outwith the OF are in what league.

LEAGUE
W RU
PREMIERSHIP 5 13
CHAMPIONSHIP 0 7
OTHER 0 0
TOTAL 5 20

LEAGUE
W RU
PREMIERSHIP 100% 65%
CHAMPIONSHIP 0% 35%
OTHER 0% 0%

SCOTTISH CUP
W RU
PREMIERSHIP 12 15
CHAMPIONSHIP 3 12
OTHER 1 7
TOTAL 16 34

SCOTTISH CUP
W RU
PREMIERSHIP 75% 44%
CHAMPIONSHIP 19% 35%
OTHER 6% 21%

LEAGUE CUP
W RU
PREMIERSHIP 11 20
CHAMPIONSHIP 5 7
OTHER 0 3
TOTAL 16 30

LEAGUE CUP
W RU
PREMIERSHIP 69% 67%
CHAMPIONSHIP 31% 23%
OTHER 0% 10%

so this looks to me that the most competitive league next season is likely to be the Premiership, where more winners and runners up in all three of the major competitions in Scotland over the last 50 seasons excluding the OF will be performing.

All winners of the top league outside the big two will play in the premiership, 65% of scottish cup winners and 69% of league cup winners will also perform in the top league.

football evolves all the time and does not live in the past, Hearts and Hibs have been living on past glories for too long but the SMSM will have you believe different.

Lets compare the New Firm against Hearts and Hibs in the last 50 years

Competition New Firm Edinburgh two
Top League winners 4 0
Scottish Cup winners 8 3
League Cup winners 7 3

Again please note all these figures are exclusive of the OF.

For Hibs and Hearts you could read the following English Giants
Accrington Stanley
Aston Villa
Blackburn
Bolton
Burnley
Derby County
Everton
Notts County
Preston NE
Stoke City
WBA
Wolves

Football is based on sporting merit and not biggest support nor history, whether it be actual or purchased.

so hit the SMSM with the facts over the last 50 seasons when they spout forth their nonsense based on sentiment and not fact!

i do hope this post above does not feel like a lecture from the OU on BBC2 from all those years ago. Fore armed is forewarned

Scottish Football needs a strong Arbroath


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