Comment on .. and they wonder why nobody buys papers by Johnbud78.
It is very disappointing to come on here and read posts like Reiver’s, never like to see passionate people leave this place. There seems to have been a bit of frustration across the board in the last couple of days, misunderstandings and toys being flung out of prams. This is of course going to happen but really guys, we are all on the same side, for the most part, and are certainly stronger together than going it alone. Hopefully once the season kicks off or there is a new article out up we can all come back together and push forward again.
On the laughable BBC story, wow, just wow? I really don’t understand how such an esteemed broadcaster can get away with such blatant lies and falsehoods? Relegation is the one I usually laugh at the hardest, its so easy to disprove, but thats when talking to everyday fans, the constant pushing of this basic inaccuracy is the SMSM all over.
Mr Muirhead has done a FOI for the safety certificate for Ibrox, hopefully we hear something on that soon, but shouldn’t Hamilton Accies be making sure their fans will be safe attending the game? Any fans of HA on here have any idea if your club has contacted good ol’ DCK?
Mods, you do a great job so keep it up!
Both of you are suggesting that because Grant has asked questions then he should be given less grief than DR,BBC etc? In my view he is worse than the others! At least they are upfront in their negligence, they won’t ask the questions and bury their heads. Grant ha stated RES12 is dead due to the statement from UEFA, it addresses zero of RES12, from my understanding of it, he has refused to give the questions asked to receive these answers and then said the letter the 12’ers have should be published? He is pro-actively trying to distort what has gone on and is using a national platform to do so.
Just because he is asking questions does not exempt him from scrutiny, what are the questions? Who were they asked to? Are these things not important?
Auldheid, as always you hit the nail on the head!
Wottpi/EJ, I am a very infrequent poster and both of you are guys I genuinely look forward to reading, so please do not take offence, but I just feel you are way off the mark in your defence of STVGrant here.
.. and they wonder why nobody buys papers
Well done Tris, great read!
As always I am, naively, disgusted with the print media! The relative unimportant nature of the subject leads me to believe there is more to this, however, I think I may be being naive again! As always with this saga, we on here and the guys active online will know all about this but it’s the others, the majority unfortunately, who will be blind to this? A few of you have said previously we need to get the message out there more, but its now patently obvious that this will not be allowed through traditional means, thinking caps on here, how else do we go about this? Reiver’s leaflets sounded like a great idea btu not sure how much of an impact they have had? I am on the other side of the world so online is how I keep up to date, not sure how much impact I can have but will certainly keep thinking and contributing to you guys!
Sickened doesn’t quite cover it
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Very good read Finloch, good in the sense of well written, depressing in the sense of the content is probably 100% spot on!
For sometime I have had the crazy idea that the SFA/SPFL/PL/TRFC etc have all missed a trick in this. Imagine back in 2012, that all clubs, governing bodies, supporters groups, everyone agreed that the club from ibrox had gone the way of the dodo and was no longer, but instead of the nonsense that is the continuation/survival myths, they came out and said “There will be a new club given special dispensation to enter the professional game in league 3 as the spiritual successor to RFC” No doubt, there would’ve been an bit of shouting and balling by some opposition fans and much knashing of teeth by the RFC fan base, but imagine the huge amount of anticipation built up over the last 4 years climaxing in their official entry to the top league and a build in the media of “How will the new rangers go against their predecessors traditional rivals?” I truly beleive we would have had more faith in the MSM, integrity in our competitions and a huge interest from around the world in this new comer trying to take the mantle of the old club being CFC’s sparring partner!
As much as this is a huge flight of fancy, I would have much preferred that this was what had taken place rather than the very likely scenario outlined above!
I fear our game has not only sold it’s soul, but actually prostituted it out for a very small sum then sold it for some magic beans?? Depressing
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Great idea, a few post back, getting TE or JS to do Q&A! I doubt TE would be willing to have his honest views on things published anywhere, not even on here! On twitter he is willing to engage with certain topics but suddenly disappears when anything to do with the main topic of conversation are brought up on here!
i’d like to hear BP/Tris put it to KM of BBC, a challenge to debate the points on the phone in? Or even one of our more prolific posters who would be willing to go on and dismantle them! I have tried to call a few times, getting up a bloody ridiculous time, but have never got through? Not that I am the man to put all things forward, but from my time spent on here I certainly think I could have that bunch in a tangle in no time at all
This is something I have said for a while, we need to take the truth out in the open again, it was all the rage back in 2012/13, now not so much! I know they wont let people speak about it, but if we could get some platforms to give us a small amount of time I am sure it would be well used.
On a tangent of sorts, the English media, for all its faults, seems to be a lot more investigative/watchful of the game down there, AT excluded, why hasn’t more been done to get their take on all the SFA shenanigans/OC/NC/LNS etc? If a print journalist took it up I think we’d get progress very quickly.
Great performance by Celtic this morning against Motherwell, i certainly think BR is starting to make his mark on the team and look forward to the CL qualifier next week with a bit more confidence now!
Keep up the great work guys!
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The Puma/SD decision to stock and attempt to sell the shirts seems, to me, to be the logical next step! This situation has to come to a head at some point and in order to do that someone had to make a move. As others have mentioned I am certain they would’ve been briefed by their legal departments and confident they are well within their rights to do so. The statement from the club would seem to suggest this is all legal but not what they want, toys out of pram time again, or they would’ve just said lawyers are on this and confident of victory.
JC , you make a good point about old uncle Tom , but he must know that he is merely confirming that he is every bit as duplicitous and deceptive as the rest of the SMSM hacks? Personally my integrity is more valuable than a few pieces of silver, but he is one of those who annoy me even more than your chris jacks or mat lyndseys, they are out in the open cheer leading for the new club, TE does it in a sleekit way that gets under my skin!
Keep up the good work guys
Oh and I know this is not a CFC site, but they put us through the wringer again, but job done and looking forward to the draw on Friday!
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What has happened to journalism? The focus of SFM is, obviously, on the sports hacks in Scotland, but the more I read about events internationally them more I lose any faith I ever had in being told the truth via traditional mediums!
The post by Highlander earlier in the thread, which I tweeted btw highlander , shows that all knew what was going on and now you can’t get any of them to even discuss the subject? Tom English on Twitter this morning said, agian, we need to move on?? Plenty of people put valid q’s to him, politely and he ignores them all! KJ, worst of all imo, is a grenade merchant, only looks for reaction and will not engage in debate or conversation.
Is this what they imagined their careers to be? Is this what we as a society accept? The more I try to engage the more frustrated I get. Upside, my respect for Res12 guys, Tris and BP, Phil and JF and PL just grows and grows. How you keep at it in the face of such odds is inspiring
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Probably an appropriate time to put this article up BP and a great read it was.
It is incredibly frustrating not being able to have an immediate impact on things close to your heart, no matter what that may be, however we all need to take the long game view of this. As my previous manager was so fond of saying “How do you eat an elephant?”
The thing about TOG is that a huge amount of people seemed to get swept up in the debate with TLM about the license issue, although I know LNS was mentioned a few times, as has been said above and I think eluded to in a couple of posts on the previous article, that is black and white, there is no debate to be had! The dates were changed and changed for a specific reason, guilt had been admitted on the WTC so for those to be discounted (Pun intended) is a disgrace.
Also see Clumps is back and boy is his latest a cracker! I was laughing my backside off all the way into work this morning, brilliant. As much as I love reading him, it is again frustrating that the majority of the populace still takes the MSM seriously, when it suits them, and that the journalists are so obviously biased.
Keep up the good work guys, one bite at a time