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Up The Hoops 7.19 Love the references about the domestic game …

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Up The Hoops 7.19

Love the references about the domestic game the integrity of which he steamrolled over starting 1999 with first ebt.
Then that Martin O Neil turned up. I take it the article predated August 2000 when Fernado was substituted after 20 minutes.

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Neepheid 8.20
Thanks for that reminder. It suggest that but for Lord Hodges intervention the SFA Membership would not in fact exist to transfer.
There seems to be some fortunate events occurring in that time, like HMRC agreeing not to start collection proceedings in March 2011 on the wtc accepted liability until after the Takeover by CW.
Now why on tax owed since 2001 and evaded by illegal means would HMRC agree to any delay?


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I’ve read that SFA Article many a time as it is the one used to justify the transfer of the SFA Membership by the SFA. 

14. Prohibition on Transfer of Membership
14.1 It is not permissible for a member to transfer directly or indirectly its membership of the Scottish FA to another member or to any other entity, and any such transfer or attempt to effect such a transfer is prohibited, save as otherwise provided in this Article 14. Any member desirous of transferring its membership to another entity within its own administrative group for the purpose of internal solvent reconstruction must apply to the Board for permission to effect such transfer, such consent not to be unreasonably withheld or delayed. Any other application for transfer of membership will be reviewed by the Board, which will have complete discretion to reject or to grant such application on such terms and conditions as the Board may think fit.

The question the sentence in bold poses in it that the SFA appear to recognise and cater for a solvent reconstruction but was the liquidation of RFC a solvent reconstruction? If it wasn’t then was there in fact a “live” SFA membership to transfer to any other applicant?
UEFA do not appear to think so for the reasons given previously. 


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I have copied over from JJ site because of the additional comment  I made there and another thought I would like a view on in the next post..
Casual Observer says: July 20, 2016 at 1:53 pm
“The SFA and SPFL can do as they please. If they choose to transfer licences and titles to Charles Green’s Sevco Scotland there is nothing we can do to stop them”
This is quite simply untrue. Thank you for the opportunity to comment upon it.
It has been established by the Court of Session that it has supervisory legislative powers over the SFA and SPFL. The court of Session, if petitioned to review SFA/ SPFL decisions and actions, can hold both organizations to act within their own rules and UEFA rules and Laws, enforced in Scotland, including Scots Law, UK Law and European Law.
Charles Green established this and won in court. Fergus McCann likewise.
In addition, as a UEFA member national association the SFA is required to govern the game strictly in accordance with UEFA rules.
‘The Rangers’ being passed off as old ‘Rangers’ breaks all of the above Laws and Rules. It cannot endure. It is unsustainable. The lie will crumble, they always do.
To which JJ replied
As no-one has the appetite or the means to challenge them, they can do as they please.
Casual Observer says: July 20, 2016 at 2:43 pm
That’s why it will not endure. It is extremely fragile and cannot survive the legal challenge of one individual, any one of millions of people, who wish to take it to court.
The cost involved is relatively small. A 10% remortgage of an ex council house would cover it. Making any council house fan hugely empowered. Two fans at 5% remortgaging? Spread the love.
Anyone could in theory be funded by other(s) to front the two day hearing. I’m sure there’s lots of people out there would like to be hailed as the individual that destroyed the same club lie. Just go to Celtic Park safe standing area and pick any individual for the honour. They’d jump at the chance.
Why don’t you do it JJ?
Green says it’s a lie. Five judges say it’s a lie. The law says it’s a lie. Willie Miller says it’s a lie. Graham Spiers says it’s a lie. UEFA says it’s a lie. Jim Spence, formerly BBC, says it’s a lie.

Dundee journalist Jim Spence leaving the BBC


Get Jim Spence back as the head of football reporting at BBC Scotland. Integrity in his DNA.
And a reply from Auldheid to JJ.
UEFA have stated their official position with regard to the status of the  “new club/company” applying in future for a UEFA licence. It is in black and white signed by the Head of Club Licensing & FFP Andrea Traverso and the SFA are bound to UEFA and SPFL to SFA.
It is but a matter of time before it all comes crumbling down but like you I have no appetite to pursue this particular issue. It is a distraction from pursuit of an accountable SFA.
PS. It was the SFA Membership not Licence that was transferred under the discretionary powers of SFA Article 14 titled Prohibition of Transfer of Membership. Aye – the irony of it eh?

14. Prohibition on Transfer of Membership 14.1 It is not permissible for a member to transfer directly or indirectly its membership of the Scottish FA to another member or to any other entity, and any such transfer or attempt to effect such a transfer is prohibited, save as otherwise provided in this Article 14. Any member desirous of transferring its membership to another entity within its own administrative group for the purpose of internal solvent reconstruction must apply to the Board for permission to effect such transfer, such consent not to be unreasonably withheld or delayed. Any other application for transfer of membership will be reviewed by the Board, which will have complete discretion to reject or to grant such application on such terms and conditions as the Board may think fit.
A licence only last a year and is applied for annually.

Paradoxically UEFA do not recognise the transfer of SFA Membership as conferring continuity, they have the sporting integrity of UEFA competitions to consider, which is why their Article 12 requires a club to have three years MEMBERSHIP of their national association before that club/company can apply for a UEFA licence.  (football clubs who apply can take both forms as defined in Article 12)
Without casting any doubts on what Casual Observer says is there any argument that this route is not open should the appetite exist amongst the Scottosh Football support at large?


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It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
UP THE HOOPS
The allegations on CQN that Bobby Madden has a gambling problem surely require his  removal from the the firing line until the allegators are proved wrong.
No snap decisions, just a leisurely swim until there is no question as to his motivations. 


It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
Dons/Hibees/Jambos and any other club wanting a UEFA spot.
Flogging players who have put TRFC near top of league is an admission those players unaffordable.
The solution is to make a licence for TRFC conditional on a realistic sustainable business plan. SFA are not doing their licencing job. Never have in fact.
So what questions are your club Directors asking the SFA?
Why not get them to ask UEFA if they are happy with the way SFA process licence applications from Ibrox. Seems UEFA not happy.
Proper club licencing can level the playing field a bit but it also protects all clubs from charlatans selling jam tomorrow.


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Allyjambo 21.41

Matthew Lindsay: Time for Dave King to depart Rangers – but who could take over at the Ibrox club?

Rangers need to be run by individuals whose integrity is beyond doubt.
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Do such individuals steeped in blue exist?

As rare as a dodo nesting on an iceberg in Carlisle Bay, Barbados.
” No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.” Albert Einstein 
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I got my electronic copy of Not The View delivered yesterday.
Browsing through I thought I recognised The Christmas Tale offering and was pleased to read it as I had forgotten it was a tale I told at Christmas in 2012 (on CQN I think).
I think it worth repeating as a reminder of why SFM exists – because we love football and we love Scottish football and we aren’t done yet.
A CHRISTMAS TALE
See me?
 
See me?
 
Ah jist luv fitbaw.
 
Its funny cos I was never that interested until about age eleven when a good pal, who was destined never to see his 21st birthday after a car crash in Rome encouraged me to try it. John was there to become a priest but got fast tracked by the Big Man who knows a good guy when he sees wan.
 
John encouraged me to give it a go in Suffolk St.  We played “croassies in” with the metal pull down blinds that formed the gates to the interior of the Barras as goals. Plastic baws, Fridos then Wembleys, arrived about then and many a red hot poker made the game a bogey in a failed attempt at repairing a burst baw.
 
(I blame the whelk shells; they were aw ower the place from the Oyster Bar in the Gallowgate (where I was entrapped in the cellar two weekends in a row cleaning whelks and mussels) and the ravenous appetite of the Glasgow punter for shellfish.
 
I played fitbaw morning, noon and night and saw Glasgow Green pitches UPGRADED from black ash/clinker to red blaze. We thought we were Wullie Fernie playing on that stuff and there was a case for playing with 10 baws as teams were filled with tanner baw players (goalies were just last man standing) for whom the object of the game was to beat everybody else in the opposition before scoring or it wisnae a goal.
 
I remember wan night  at the Glasgow Green waiting to play for St Alphonsus v Our Lady of Fatima  when I saw Tony Green, who was a Mungo boy and went on to play for Newcastle and Scotland before injury ended his career too early, waiting, sannies under his arm, to get a game with any team who were a man short. I think the OLOF manager mugged wan of his boys as Tony appeared for them and turned a virtuoso performance against us to give OLOF a 3-2 victory.
 
I started work and went to London for a year to work in the old Post Office Savings Bank. In my first week Jock (a Jock) approached and asked if I played. He never mentioned the sport, he didnae hiv tae, we wur already communicating at the spiritual level only fitbaw lovers can reach (the kind of thing that electrifies CP on CL nights.)
 
I get directions fur a game oan the Saturday at Acton Town and turn up, new Puma boots, paid by my transfer grant, under my arm (nae sannies fur me) On entering the park ahm puzzled, there wiz GRASS everywhere, nae clinker or red blaze in sight.  “Must be roon the back of the dressing rooms “ I remember thinking.
 
Anyhoo I gets changed runs roon the back to see — MAIR grass as far as the eye can see. So I troop back tae the dressing rooms to get directions to the ash pitches. When I explain what ah wiz used to playin oan they aw jist looked at me like my village wiz searching fur their idiot.
 
Well I get sorted out and line up. The baw, I remember, wiz a size 5 orange wan, but no wan o they bricks wi laces. The first pass to me wiz high and ah chests the ball doon and whirls roon afore I get studded from the back as wiz the custom oan the narrow pitches of Glasgow Green. To ma amazement the nearest opponent to me is about 4 yards away. As I look into his eyes I smile and turn to Jock at the sidelines and shout.
 
“Yer gonnae need anither baw” as I meander off in pursuit of the only goal that counted for a tanner baw man. I think I managed 7 before netting and I’ll take that. It wiz oan unfamiliar grass after all.
 
 Postscript “Aye very guid Auldheid” yer thinking (if you have stayed with me so far.)
“Nice reminiscing and it is Christmas Eve, so thanks fur the memories. “
 
But there’s mer tae this tale fur
 
See me?
 
See me?
 
I jist luv fitbaw.
 
Its ma game, its  OOR game and when I see the mess those responsible for looking after its welfare have made of it ah want to do something.
 
I hope ahm not alone.
 
Dec 2012


It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
That Dave King is allowed any influence in Scottiish football is a dereliction of the duty of the SFA to protect our game from criminality.

Dave King should be called to account by the other clubs via the SFA to provide evidence he can do what he has promised, which is bank roll TRFC.

At the very least the clubs should be preparing for another insolvency event at Ibrox and deciding the conditions they will set for TRFC to continue taking part in Scottish football on the same basis as every other club, who act with the utmost good faith to fellow members.

The clubs via the SFA have the powers under Club Licensing to do so, powers that the SFA Comp Off can only conclude the SFA have failed to utilise. Powers that UEFA must have recognised by now as a result of Res12 letter of May 2016 and UEFA Licence submission this year, are not being used fully by the SFA.  

It was self preservation that underpinned the 5 Way Agreement . The dangers of that agreement – destroying integrity, undermining trust, ignoring deceit – become more and more manifest and should alert other clubs to the necessity to exercise their collective responsibility to each other and so to our game that they govern via the SFA on our behalf, using Club Licensing powers.

When a particular course of action designed to preserve self is not working it is human nature to try another course.

Not renewing STs come April/May unless positive trust restoring actions are taken by our clubs collectively, is one way of changing minds about what is self preserving.


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