Beware the angry Shareholders — they might just demand an answer!


Its our SFA. They don’t exist without us. Who elects …

Comment on Beware the angry Shareholders — they might just demand an answer! by RyanGosling.

Its our SFA. They don’t exist without us. Who elects the president of the SFA? Surely a good way of doing it would be to pressurise the SFA in some way, ideally without boycotts etc. as I don’t believe they’re ever effective enough, to change the elections so that members of the Scotland fans travelling club for example (I’m not a member so don’t know the exact name!) elect the president? That way the proven die hard fans of the national side would have a say in how the national game was run?

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Beware the angry Shareholders — they might just demand an answer!

Your point about SDM etc. breaking the trust of the Rangers support is a good one. I’ve said this before that the first victims in all of this, before the implications spread and infected many other areas, were Rangers fans. Terminal damage was done really before anything became public knowledge. So I thank you for recognising that point, that the trust of the Rangers fans was also broken.

I also fully agree with everything else you said, and thank you again for posting such a well thought out and reasoned opinion. Genuinely, the only reason I am not on here ranting about Ogilvie every day is because I believe it to be so far beyond doubt that he is in a way beyond untenable position that it doesn’t even need saying. Especially not to this audience. However on reading your post I stand corrected; it was well worth saying again.

I agree that he must stand down, if not face charges – there must be some law he’s broken, because ask yourself this; how could he preside over investigations into EBTs when he should have been witness number one? How can he have been on the board of a club who imploded so spectacularly as a result of actions he was involved in and then move on to become president of the SFA? The man is conflicted and unable to do his job properly as a result of the damage he has wrought on one of the biggest clubs in Scotland, on the SFA, and on the game in Scotland as a whole. At the very least, he should be charged by the SFA for bringing the game into disrepute, which is the very least he’s done.

Beware the angry Shareholders — they might just demand an answer!
Resin lab dog, to respond to your post:

Its hard to argue with a lot of what you said, and while I’d happily get into some of the nuances I don’t want to detract from the direction of the blog – happy to pick up with you via pm if you wish.

What I will say in response to your direct question, “was it worth it”, I will repeat what I’ve said on here previously. I wish Rangers had never even contemplated the tax dodging policies they used. I wholeheartedly wish it had never happened. And if you look at what has happened specifically to Rangers since then (liquidated), then the only possible conclusion that no, it was not worth it.

And for the little its worth, I regret and am sorry for the fallout caused by the actions of Rangers over the last decade and a half.

Actually, if I write that and leave it at that someone will be straight back on asking if I’m also sorry for the sectarian employment policies of the past, so yes, I am appalled by that disgusting policy.

Beware the angry Shareholders — they might just demand an answer!
TSFM – well said on every point.

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”Now on what is objectionable to others: songs that are inward celebrating might cause offence to others but they are the ones taking offence, it is not being offered to or aimed at them. It is something intolerant in them that sparks the offence taken.”

By your criteria above, it would be perfectly acceptable for a group of fans to turn up at a football ground singing “Ode to Isis” and as long as it was inward looking, it would be the fault of the rest of the crowd if they were offended. 

I usually read your posts with interest and respect your views, but I find this stance ridiculous. 

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Upthehoops, thanks for your response. I’ve recognised my club’s weaknesses on here many times, but the justification given for support of clubs in Europe here is always that they are the Scottish representatives, which Rangers were. You can’t claim (and I don’t mean you particularly) to support the Scottish representatives but then exclude some because they aren’t financially well managed. Rangers mk II have been run at a loss but have broken no rules, and are not the first club in Scotland or in Europe to have been run at a loss. Again, I have been a vocal critic on here of the Rangers administration, but if people are on here claiming to support the Scottish representatives but making an exception for Rangers then I say they are hypocrites. 

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Jimbo you were not as vocal in your support for Scottish representation in Europe when Rangers were (briefly) involved. Neither was anyone else here, somewhat disappointingly. 

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