Did Stewart Regan Ken Then Wit We Ken Noo?

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Corrupt official says: April 2, 2015 at 3:19 pm Was the release …

Comment on Did Stewart Regan Ken Then Wit We Ken Noo? by Resin_lab_dog.

Corrupt official says:
April 2, 2015 at 3:19 pm

Was the release of interims purely an AIM requirement? If so, as it must have been known de-listing was imminent,(or intended) what was the real point of the release?

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…Transparency??? 😆

(…its the way I tell ’em!)

More likely.. burying one lot of bad news under another lot of bad news. (PR tactic)

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Did Stewart Regan Ken Then Wit We Ken Noo?
castaway says:
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May 7, 2015 at 1:16 am

Resin_lab_dog says:
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May 7, 2015 at 12:34 am

TRFC are entitled to the same fairness as we demand for our clubs.
Nothing less and nothing more.
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You never spoke a truer word. But as for league redesign, you’re making assumptions, based on what you assume to be SFA assumptions. Not a good foundation IMO.

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Here’s a possibility: Playing devil’s advocate: perhaps TRFC only ever signed up to ‘gate sharing’ at the playoffs because they never expected it to apply to them (anticipating winning the league at a canter?)

Well you know what?
They did and it does.

In the same way, 42 clubs agreed to the play off system as it stands.

Whatever excuses and motivations and agendas were held or advanced at the time, that time has now passed.

The rules can be changed going forward if needed.
But as they stand they should simply be applied.

I have no problem.

Not least, there is just as much to TRFCs eventual disadvantage vs what works out to their advantage with things as they stand for us (imo) to credibly suggest that the solution arrived at was in any way inequitable in that regard.

So I don’t buy the ‘conspiracy’ one little bit on this occasion.

Occam’s razor cuts it here, I think.


Did Stewart Regan Ken Then Wit We Ken Noo?
parttimearab says:
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May 6, 2015 at 9:09 pm

stevo says:
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May 6, 2015 at 8:23 pm

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Agree wholeheartedly with this.
imo the playoffs were a concession to the other clubs.
The assumption was that TRFC would cruise back to ‘where they belonged’.
(imo RFC are in fact where they belong already (liquidation))
The play offs were a sop/pander to the other clubs so that THEIR promotion prospects were not killed off completely by sharing a league with the chosen one.

The unintended consequence was that playoffs might help a mortally wounded TRFC escape to the top league where its chances of effecting a financial recovery are enhanced.

I have no problem with that.
Thems the rules we signed up to.

It also increases their chances of being relegated in the event of a subsequent insolvency.

Cuts both ways.

TRFC are entitled to the same fairness as we demand for our clubs.
Nothing less and nothing more.


Did Stewart Regan Ken Then Wit We Ken Noo?
stevo says:
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May 6, 2015 at 8:23 pm

jimlarkin says:
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May 5, 2015 at 6:10 pm

Indeed…You betcha
Otherwise, Sevco (as a consequence of finishing 3rd) would not be promoted at all this season.

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I don’t actually believe the Championship promotion play-offs were intended to help Sevco, since I don’t believe the authorities imagined for one minute that they wouldn’t romp home with the division. I find it far more plausible that they were introduced as a sop to the other clubs who would be unlucky enough to find themselves facing at least half a season of dead rubbers as the elite raced out of sight.

Speaking of dead rubbers: At the start of the season, there are 1.5 promotion places available in the Championship, so it follows that (statistically) the odds on promotion to the Premiership are 1.5 in 10. For the teams finishing 3rd and 4th, the odds on winning promotion via the play-offs are 1 in 8. So, after 36 games, they actually have less chance of promotion than they had before a ball was kicked, yet we’re supposed to be excited about this. Terrific.

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Slight logical fallacy there:

If all else were equal at the start of the season with every team perfectly level, merit removed from the scenario, and only random elements assigned to gain rankings there is indeed a 15% chance of being promoted.

And after reaching 3rd and 4th in the playoff, the chance of being promoted is 12.5%

However, you must also factor in ALL outcomes (adverse as well as beneficial) when statistically weighting the desirability of outcomes.

The correct analysis is as follows :

Start of season:
15% opportunity of promotion
15% jeopardy of relegation
70% likelihood of holding station

End of season 3rd/4th finisher
12.5% opportunity of promotion
0% jeopardy of relegation
87.5% chance holding station.

Start of season: zero net sum gain. (3 in 20 positive, 3 in 20 adverse, 14 in 20 static)
End of season 3rd/ 4th : 1 in 8 positive, 7 in 8 static: positive sum gain.

This means that the teams in 3rd/4th ARE statistically significantly better off at the end of the season than they were at the start of the season w.r.t their overall advancement prospects.


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Its all gone a bit North Korea in Scottish football.

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…poof! 
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