Did Stewart Regan Ken Then Wit We Ken Noo?

 

Thoughts and observations from watching and reading a transcript of Alex Thomson of Channel 4’s Interview with Stewart Regan (CEO of the SFA) Broadcast by Channel 4 on 29 March 2012.

http://www.channel4.com/news/we-run-football-were-not-the-police-sfa-boss

Introduction. I came across the above interview recently and listened to and transcribed it again as it reminded me of questions it raised then that the passage of time since has provided some insight into.

There is a lot to digest so the blog is broken into four sections.  Three parts cover the Interview plus what they seem to tell us now, knowing what was not known then viz:

  • Why No independent or independent element to the enquiry that became the Lord Nimmo Smith Commission. given the potential extent of the corruption at play?
  • Why no effective fit and Proper Person scrutiny and the absence of real governance?
  • EBTS and whether they constitute wrong doing and why that mattered so much and still does. plus
  • The “hard to not to believe” conclusions about the whole exercise with the benefit of what we ken noo.

There is also an Annex at the end with excerpts from the Lord Nimmo Smith Decision for ease of reference:

The comments (in bold italics) are based on what Regan said then and what we ken noo, either as facts or questions arising from them. It is a long read but hopefully readers will be enticed by this introduction to stay the course.

In the following “SR” is Stewart Regan CEO of the SFA and “AT” is Alex Thomson of Channel 4 News.

No Independent Enquiry?

SR No

AT I’m just curious as to why they wouldn’t. With something as big as this potentially this is the biggest corruption scandal in British sport, which is – a thought – and yet the SPL deem themselves fit to investigate themselves.

SR Well I think you are calling it potentially the biggest corruption case, at this stage there has been no wrongdoing proven.  There is an investigation going on

AT But you would accept that potentially, potentially that if guilty there is no question this is the biggest corruption scandal in British sport.

SR There is no wrongdoing as I said at the moment and there is nothing yet that has been established as far as the club registering players without providing the appropriate documentation, so I think it would   be wrong to jump to conclusions and even use words like corruption. You know there are a series of issues here. There are some footballing matters which are being dealt through the football authorities and there are tax mattes which are being dealt with through HMRC and there is to be a Tax Tribunal due to be heard as I’m sure you are aware in April.

So even before the investigation got underway Mr Regan was saying that it would be incorrect to assume that any wrong doing took place in terms of the registration process and use of ebts. He later expands on this point in relation to EBTs as a legitimate tax arrangement device. Given that the FTT did not rule until November 2012 that the ebts issued under the Murray Management Group Remuneration Trust (MMGRT) were legal then this stance by Mr Regan appears justifiable at the time of interview – but more on that later. 

AT I’m just wondering why at no stage anybody seemed, or perhaps they did, to think we need an independent body coming in this is big this is huge, potentially  we need somebody from the outside  or we are going simply going to be accused of investigating ourselves.

SR Well I think that might be one for you to ask the Scottish Premier League as far as their Board..

AT Well they appeal to you so I’m asking you.

SR   No as you said we are the right of appeal so if the club is concerned with any punishment it has been given well then they can choose to appeal to us. We as a body have the provision in our rules to carry out independent enquiries, indeed we did so very recently by appointing the Right Honourable Lord Nimmo Smith to carry out our own investigation into Rangers and we are part way through disciplinary proceedings and they will be heard on 29 March.

Given that player registrations are ultimately lodged with the SFA where Sandy Bryson has been doing the job for some years, I did wonder why the SFA were not the body taking the lead. They had the expertise on what turned out to be a key issue, the eligibility of players if misregistration occurred.  Indeed Sandy Bryson was called in to give a testimony to Lord Nimmo Smith that most folk involved in running a football team from amateur level upwards (as I was) had difficulty accepting. The Bryson interpretation suggested us amateurs had been daft not to take the risk of being found out if we did not register players correctly if only games from the point of discovery risked having results overturned. The Bryson interpretation on eligibility made no sense against that experience and it still does not to football lovers. I’m not sure if the rules have been amended to reflect the Bryson interpretation yet, but cannot see how they can be without removing a major deterrent that I always thought proper registration was there to provide.

The point about their having to be a body of higher appeal sounded plausible then, but could the Court of Arbitration on Sport not have been that body?  Or did that risk taking matters out of the SFA’s control even though it would have introduced an element of the independence that Alex Thomson raises in the following paragraphs in his interview?

AT But did anybody at any stage at the SFA say to you I have a concern that we need an independent body, that the SPL can’t and shouldn’t handle this?

SR Well under the governance of football the SPL run the competition

AT I’m not asking, I’m saying did anybody come to you at any stage and say that to you. Anybody?

SR No they didn’t as far as the SPL’s processes is concerned. The SPL ,

AT Never?

It is notable here that Alex Thomson pushes the point about lack of independence, which is where we enter “wit we ken noo territory”.  

Given that it is now known that SFA President Campbell Ogilvie sat on the Rangers FC Remunerations Policy Committee in September 1999 where it was decided Discount Option Scheme (DOS) ebts would be used as a matter of club remuneration policy using the Rangers Employee Benefit Trust (REBT).

Given that we know that Campbell Ogilvie instigated the first ebt payment to Craig Moore using the Discount Options Scheme.

Given that Ronald De Boer and Tor Andre Flo had both been paid using the same type of DOS ebt as Moore from 2000 to 2002/03 but accompanied by side letters, later concealed from HMRC  in 2005 and of course the SFA from August 2000.

Given that Mr Ogilvie was also in receipt of the later MMGRT ebts disputed by HMRC in the big tax case on which the FTT had still to rule

Given that Mr Regan must have been aware at time of interview that Sherriff Officers had called at Ibrox in August 2011 to collect payment of a tax bill, which means even to a layman that it must have gone past dispute to acceptance of liability and so crystallised sometime after 31st March 2011.

Given that Craig Whyte had already agreed to pay the wee tax bill in his public Takeover statement in early June 2011.

Given that on 7th December 2011 Regan had written to Andrew Dickson at RFC, who had sat on three of the four SFA/UEFA Licensing Committee meetings in 2011, to approve a draft statement by Mr Regan on the SFA’s handling of the UEFA Licence aspect of the wee tax case, which arose as a direct result of the use of the DOS ebts to Flo and De Boer during Dickson’s ongoing tenure at RFC from 1991.

Given that Campbell Ogilvie accompanied Stewart Regan to meet Craig Whyte at the Hotel De Vin on 15th December 2011 as a result of an invite stemming from that consternation causing draft that RFC thought likely to cause problems for the SFA (having agreed before the hotel meeting that no comment should be made on the wee tax case)

Given that the wee tax case was a direct result of those early types of DOS ebts being judged illegal by an FTT considering an appeal by the Aberdeen Asset Management company in 2010.

Given all of these facts, how credible is it that no conversation took place between Regan and Campbell Ogilvie on the requirement for an independent enquiry?

If a conversation did not take place as claimed, the question has to be should it have?

Given the foregoing facts on the early ebts, how credible is it Mr Regan during this interview did not know as a result of his involvement with the overdue payable and the UEFA licence in 2011 of the illegal and therefore wrong doing nature of those early EBTS with side letters concealed from the SFA and HMRC in 2005 just before Mr Ogilvie left RFC?

SR The SPL run, the SPL run the rules of The Scottish Premier League and they apply that. There are a whole host of people raising issues on internet sites and passing comment s about various theories that they have about Scottish football particularly in the West of Scotland. I think it’s important to establish that governance of Scottish football is managed by the appropriate body whether it is the Premier League, The Football League or the overall governing body. So that as far as we are concerned we let the   Scottish Premier league manage their own rules and if those rules are then broken and the club is charged they have the right of appeal to us as the Appellant body.

Given all of the now known facts listed above how credible is it that the reason given by Stewart Regan to Alex Thomson for the SFA being the appeal body was indeed the only one?

Given the foregoing how credible is it that Mr Regan was not aware that he was being economical with the truth during his interview or had he indeed been kept in the dark by others in the SFA?

Fit and Proper Person and Absence of Governance

AT Let’s talk about Craig Whyte. Ehm   – Presumably when Craig Whyte was mooted as coming in as the new owner – for the grand sum of £1 – for Rangers Football club, presumably the SFA took a keen interest in this and did some kind of due diligence on this man.

SR Well we have under our articles, Article 10.2, we have a process which sets out a number of criteria for what defines a fit and proper person within football. Now as you know we cannot stop people getting involved with a business and we cannot stop people getting involved with a PLC, all we can stop them doing is having an involvement with football, so what we do as part of that process is we ask for a declaration from the Directors of the club that they have a copy of the Articles,, that they have gone through the conditions and criteria within Article 10.2 and they have confirmed to us that they meet those criteria. If subsequently those criteria are breached then of course we take appropriate action.

AT You keep quoting rules back to me that’s not what I’m asking, I’m asking is did the SFA conduct any due diligence on this individual.

SR No we asked for a self-declaration from the Directors of the club and the individual himself.

AT Forgive me that sounds absolutely incredible this is the biggest club in Scotland which has been brought to its knees by a whole range of fiscal mismanagement, it is all on the record and proven. A new man comes in claiming all kinds of things, just like the previous man, and the SFA did not check or do any due diligence whatsoever.

SR That is part of the process of governing football, we

AT That’s, that’s NOT governing football that’s the exact opposite to governing football that’s running away from governing football.

SR No if you let me, if you let me finish my answer the point I am about to make is we govern the entire game from the top of the game down to grass roots. We have changes of Directors we have changes of ownership throughout the course of the year. I’m sure that if we were to spend football’s well earned money on doing investigations into potentially every change of Director, then there would be a lot of unhappy Chairmen out there.

AT You could have easily have googled (?) for free

SR Well we rely on the clubs telling us that the Articles have been complied with and that is the process we undertake.

AT This is extraordinary I say to you again  you have years of fiscal mismanagement at Rangers Football Club, a new man comes in you are telling me that nobody at The SFA as much as got on to Google  to get any background information nobody did anything ? That is extraordinary.

SR Well you refer to alleged years of financial mismanagement. I think it’s important to separate out the previous regime at Rangers and the new owner.

AT Rangers were a mess financially everybody new that

SR But I think it’s important in the case of the point you are raising regarding the fit and proper person test, to separate out the previous regime from the new owner. The club was in the process of being sold, they were challenging a tax bill that had been challenged by HMRC,* and the club had been sold to a new owner. That new owner had come in, he had purchased the club, the paper work for that sale had gone through and the club had complied with our Articles of Association. We run football we don’t, we are not the police we don’t govern transactions, we don’t govern fitness, we run football and we had asked the club to declare whether or not that person was fit to hold a place in association football. They had gone through the articles they’d signed to say that they had read those articles and that there had been no breaches of any of the points set out there. That included whether a Director had been disqualified. That wasn’t disclosed to us, indeed it did not come out until the BBC did their investigation back in October of last year.

(* note that in spite of all the “givens” listed earlier,  Mr Regan fails to distinguish (or appreciate) that there is more than one tax bill at play and the one for the wee tax case was not under challenge or Sherriff Officers would not have called in August 2011 to collect it.)

 AT So the BBC did due diligence on fitness (??) not the SFA?

SR No, as I said it came out in October 2010 primarily as a result of a detailed investigation. We then have to respond to potential breaches of our articles and we did that We entered into dialogue with the solicitor who was acting for Mr Whyte and we were in dialogue until February 2011 (?sic)  of this year when the club entered administration.

AT What I’m simply asking you to admit here is that the SFA failed and it failed Rangers in its hour of need over Craig Whyte and it failed Scottish football.

SR We didn’t fail.

AT You didn’t do anything, you said you didn’t do anything.

SR We complied with the current processes within our articles. That said I think there are a number of learnings and I think the same goes for football right across the globe. People are coming into football into a multimillion pound business and I think football needs to take a harder look at what could be done differently. We are currently exploring the possibility of carrying out due diligence using the outgoing regime to make sure that there is a full and rigorous research being done before the transaction is allowed to go ahead.

AT Do you feel the need to apologise to Rangers fans?

SR I don’t need to apologise because we complied with our articles. I don’t feel there is a need to apologise whatsoever. I think….

AT You need some new articles then don’t you?

SR Well I think the articles

AT Well let’s unpack this. You said there is no need to apologise because we followed the rule books so that’s all right. So you must therefore admit you need a new rule book.

SR No well I think it’s easy at times to try and look around and find a scapegoat and try and point fingers at where blame is to be apportioned. I think perhaps it might be worth looking at the previous regime who for four years when they said they were selling the club, said that they would sell it and act in the best interests of the club. With that in mind I think the previous regime also have to take some responsibility for selling that club and looking after so called shareholders of Rangers football club and those people who that have put money into the club over the years.

AT ??  (Interrupted)

SR the Scottish FA, as I said have a process, that process has been place for some time. It has worked very very well until now I think there are learnings undoubtably and as I said we will review where we can tighten up as I know is happening across the game right now.

The above segment on Craig Whyte and Fit and Proper  Persons is a timely reminder to supporters of all clubs, but particularly of Rangers FC of what happens when those charged with governing Scottish football hide behind the letter of the rules when convenient, rather than apply the true spirit in which those rules were written. It is the approach of The Pharisees to make a wrong , right.

To be fair to the SFA though, I doubt anyone could have imagined the degree of deceit and deception that they had allowed into Scottish football in May 2011 and how useless their rules were as a result, but I am not aware to this day if the SFA have apologised to Scottish football generally and Rangers supporters in particular, not only for failing to protect them from Craig Whyte, but also failing to protect them from the consequences of the foolish financial excesses of Sir David Murray, especially from 2008 when the tax bills in respect of the MMGRT ebts began to arrive at RFC . Some intervention then, assuming something was known by some at the SFA, who also held positions at Rangers, of  those  huge tax demands,  might have cost Rangers three titles from 2009, but what Ranger’s supporter would not give all of that up to protect their club from the fate that the failure of the SFA to govern has caused?

Also to be fair the SFA have changed the rules so that the outgoing regime is responsible for doing due diligence on any new club owners rather than relying on self-certification by the incoming club owner, but we know that did not work particularly well when Rangers Chairman Alistair Johnstone did due diligence on Craig Whyte , but then again Sir David Murray  was under pressure to sell and the guy coming in, everyone was told, had wealth off the radar.

The Nature of EBTS.

AT Let’s look at EBTs. Did nobody question ebts in the Scottish game in the English game come to that simply because nobody thought they were illegal in any way and indeed are not illegal in any way if operated correctly? Is it as simple as that?

SR There is nothing wrong with ebts when used correctly and ebts are a way of providing benefits to employees and if managed in a correct manner are perfectly legitimate. I think that the issue that we know is under investigation at the moment by both HMRC as part of the large tax case and the SPL as part of their own investigation into potential no disclosure of side letters is whether or not there has been any wrong doing and I think the issue at hand is that wrongdoing or potential wrongdoing has been discussed with HMRC for some time for several years in fact so we would not get involved in anything that there is no wrongdoing   taking place and ebts are, as I said, a legitimate way of doing business when used correctly.

Again taking the “givens” into account, particularly the significant event of Sherriff Officers calling to collect unpaid tax in August 2011 and the logical deduction that the SFA President must have known of the difference between the two types of ebts Rangers used, (and perhaps why they were changed) why the insistence at this point that all the ebts used by Rangers had been used correctly? Mr Regan at the time of the interview was either kept in the dark by his President, given he claims to have spoken to no one about the independence of the enquiry, or being economical with the truth.

The whole of Lord Nimmo Smith’s judgement made months after this interview, where Mr Regan stressed again and again there is no wrongdoing in the use of ebts if arranged correctly (or lawfully) is predicated on all ebts with side letters used by Rangers since 23 November 2011 actually being used correctly and in Lord Nimmo Smiths words on being “themselves not irregular”. (Para 5 of Annex 1). It is almost as if Mr Regan knew the outcome before Lord Nimmo Smith.

(In fact the ebt to Tor Andre Flo had a side letter dated 23 November and it related to a tax arrangement that had not been used correctly (using Regan’s own words) The irregular ebt for Ronald De Boer with a side letter of 30 August was placed beyond the scope of the Commission because in spite of it meeting the criteria specified by Harper MacLeod in March 2012 asking to be provided with ALL ebts and side letters and any other related documentation from July 1998 to date (including the HMRC letter of Feb 2011 that fully demonstrated that those particular ebts under  the Rangers Employee Benefit Trust (REBT) were not used correctly) and so were unlawful, NONE  of that documentation was  provided when requested.

This enabled Lord Nimmo Smith to state in para 107 of his Decision “while there is no question of dishonesty, individual or corporate” which is a statement he could not have made had he had all the requested documentation denied to him either by dishonesty or negligence during the preparation of his Commission.

How would he have had to judge one wonders if deception and dishonesty was indeed the factor we now ken that it is?

 

What exactly were the consequences of the failure to provide Lord Nimmo Smith with the required documentation?

It is stated in the Decision (Annex 1 para 104) that the Inquiry proceeded on the basis that the EBT arrangements (by which it meant the MGMRT ebts) were “lawful”. As it transpired the outcome of the FTT decision announced in November 2012 was that the MGMRT ebts indeed were (although this is still under appeal by HMRC.)

However, because Lord Nimmo Smith treated the MGMRT and the Earlier Trust (REBT) as one and the same, (para 35 of Decision) this meant that the Inquiry failed to distinguish between the two trusts and necessarily treated the Earlier Trust as also being lawful (without however having properly investigated its operation). However, the MGMRT and the earlier REBT were two separate trusts and there was no necessary reason to treat them as one and the same. Had evidence relating to the REBT been produced and examined, the Inquiry could hardly have treated them) as “continuous” or allowed Lord Nimmo Smith to say “we are not aware that they were different trusts“(Annex 1 para 35)

From the Decision (Annex 1 para 40), it would appear that the President of the SFA gave evidence only as to his knowledge of the MGMRT (not the REBT). We know now that the President of the SFA had knowledge of the Earlier Trust (sitting on the RFC remuneration policy committee that agreed to their use in 1999 and indeed was active in its setting up). Why the President failed to volunteer such crucial information is surely something he should now be asked?

By the time of the Inquiry, Rangers FC had already conceded liability in what has become known as “the Wee Tax Case” (which related to the now unlawful REBTs). Having regard to the wording at para 104 of the Decision (that is an echo of what Regan stressed to Alex Thomson about ebts) where it is said that to arrange financial affairs in a manner “within the law” is not a breach of the SFA/SPL Rules) the clear implication, must be that to arrange financial affairs in such a way that they are not lawful, must be a breach of the rules.

Given the admission of liability in the Wee Tax Case, payments made in respect of the REBT could not be “lawful” (to employ the language used in the Decision) or disputed, but Mr Regan presumably did not enquire too much into the history of the wee tax case before agreeing to talk to Alex Thomson.

It will be obvious from the above that the unlawful nature of REBTs had been masked from SPL lawyers and Lord Nimmo Smith as a result of:-

(a) the failure by the Administrators of Rangers FC to provide the documentation required of them;

(b) the failure of the President of the SFA to provide to the Inquiry his own knowledge of, involvement in, and presumably as a result of it, an appreciation of the differences between the two types of ebts and the consequences thereof for the investigation.  

Had the REBT been the sole subject of the Inquiry (rather than in effect not being examined at all) the following must have been different:-

(i)            the President could hardly have failed to give testimony of his knowledge and involvement;

(ii)          the Inquiry could not have held that the use of the REBT ebts was lawful;

(iv)       the “no sporting advantage” decision given in respect of the lawful ebts could not have been applied to unlawful ebts.

The real issue in the case of the unlawful ebts was not one of misregistration (Annex 1 para 104) which in turn justified the no sporting advantage decision in paras 105/106 but of paying players by an unlawful means which “constitutes such a fundamental defect (Annex 1 para 88) that the registration of players paid this way (i.e. unlawfully) must be treated as having been invalid from the outset.

Had the true nature of these early ebts been known to SPL lawyers the Terms of Reference of the Investigation would have to have addressed the wrong doing that Mr Regan was so keen to argue with Alex Thomson had not actually occurred (long before Lord Nimmo Smith agreed with him) or had President Ogilvie made the distinction in his testimony, it would have been impossible for Sandy Bryson’s to advise as he did regarding the effect on eligibility. He would have to have been asked questions about two types of ebts not one. Finally Lord Nimmo Smith could not have treated both as continuous.

Finally, given this incidence of non-disclosure by the Rangers Administrators (an identifiable trait of RFC dealings with authority from August 2000 to date), it is impossible to see how paragraph 107 (wherein it is stated that there is “no question of dishonesty”) can be allowed to remain unchallenged.

Of course the failure to supply the key evidence could just be an oversight given Rangers Administrators were hardly likely to have established of their own volition the importance of the documents to the enquiry and yet, had they been supplied, the enquiry could not have been based on the defence Stewart Regan was at such pains to stress in his interview with Alex Thomson at a time only 3 months after Mr Regan and Campbell Ogilvie had joined Craig Whyte for dinner as a result of an invite prompted by questions on the SFA UEFA Licence handling of the wee tax case , created by the very same unlawful ebts.

AT But as the governing body why did you not say to Rangers “look guys this this smells really bad, this looks bad you look (and you have admitted you have not paid your tax) you know we can’t do this, we have got to be open and above board, it looks bad.

SR Well think you need to look at what is legal and above board. At the time the club, were in dispute with HMRC. There was a tax case ongoing the new owner was in discussion with HMRC. In fact he has made comments and the club have made comments to that effect and because the amount was not crystallised under UEFA guidelines, whilst ever it’s in dispute it’s not classed as overdue.

AT Sometimes

SR So you need to separate out the licensing requirement, which is what the Licensing Committee did, from the tax that was owed to HMRC which is as we know what is still ongoing.

Mr Regan was not being accurate here.  The Big Tax case was in dispute and the bill has not crystallised as a result. However the wee tax case crystallised in mid June 2011 and at 30th June 2011, the UEFA licence checkpoint under Article 66 of UEFA FFP, did not meet the conditions to excuse it as being an overdue payable to HMRC. Quite how the SFA handled the processing of the Article 66 submission from RFC is subject to a resolution asking UEFA to investigate put to the Celtic AGM in November 2013 which is still in progress. As has been mentioned twice before Mr Regan has either been kept in the dark or was being less than honest with Alex Thomson. Interestingly Andrew Dickson who has been at Rangers in various administration and executive capacity since 1991 sat on 3 of the four UEFA Licensing Committee meetings during 2011. He may of course have excused himself from any discussions on this matter as the rules allowed, but was a full explanation why he did so, if indeed he did, offered? Would such an explanation have enlightened Mr Regan of what he was dealing with?

AT Sometimes things can be within the rules but from a PR point of view, indeed from a moral point of view, hate to introduce morality to football but can be the wrong thing to do. You would accept that?

SR Well I think that football around the world is going through a difficult time, clubs are in difficult financial circumstances, not just in Scotland, you look down into England and look at the clubs in Administration at the moment. You know Portsmouth and Port Vale in recent times and I think Plymouth is as well again. As far as that is concerned you know that indicates that clubs are living from hand to mouth and there are deals being done all the time with HMRC, payment plans being agreed. There is huge amounts of debt in football.

AT I’m just inviting you to accept that sometimes things can be within the rules but just look bad because morally, they are bad.

ST I think when taxes aren’t paid ehm VAT in particular, National Insurance Contributions of course that’s bad and I think we accept that and we know that in the current regime there is evidence to suggest that Rangers has not paid its taxes since Mr Whyte took over the club. That’s wrong that is against the spirit of the game and certainly we would look to deal with that and stamp out that type of behaviour which is not acting with integrity.

If Carlsberg did irony!

End of Interview.

The Hard Not to Believe Conclusions

There is always the danger in examining anything of finding what you want to be there rather than what is there and it is a danger any writer has to be aware of, but given the responses from Harper MacLeod on TSFM and the total lack of response from the SPFL and SFA when being informed of the missing evidence along with what has been written here it is hard not to conclude that the Lord Nimmo Smith Inquiry was deliberately set up in such a way as to produce two results

  • The minimising of the wrongful behaviour that had taken place from 1999 to 2012 when The Commission sat
  • The avoidance of the consequences of admitting that serious wrongdoing in the form of illegal payments had been made via irregular EBTs, which consequently made the players involved ineligible from the outset, making the Bryson ruling inapplicable in those cases with the consequences of that ineligibility on trophies and remuneration won.

The reader will find it hard not to conclude that either

  • there was a huge screw up by the SPL lawyers charged to set up the Commission which they might be able to defend
  • or
  • Vital knowledge was concealed within the SFA itself in order to achieve the above two results and
  • This knowledge was deliberately concealed because had it not been The Inquiry could not have come to the conclusion it did on player eligibility, not only because unlawful ebts were used in early instances, but also because the deliberate concealment from HMRC of the side letters to De Boer and Flo, the former also kept from Harper and MacLeod, suggests Rangers knew all along and in 2005 in particular that what they were doing since 2000 was morally wrong and against the spirit of the game. It perhaps also explains why HMRC is determined to push an appeal all the way.
  • This failure to supply all documents meant that the line being taken by Mr Regan in March 2012, when the Commission was being set up into the use of ebts and failure to register them with the SFA, came to fulfilment in the Decision of Lord Nimmo Smith himself, achieving the two aims suggested above.

Given that Harper MacLeod have said they passed on to the SFA in September 2014 the evidence kept from them by Rangers Administrators, has Stewart Regan spoken to either Ogilvie or Dickson since then about keeping him in the dark? Or did he know all along?

Of course these hard to believe conclusions could be discounted as delusional ramblings if either the SFA or SPFL were to say they would investigate the evidence kept from Harper MacLeod. It would also help if only one of the thirteen main stream journalists would look at the hard copy of the concealed documents they were provided with, because until someone who values sporting integrity does, the stench of corruption will hang over Scottish football for years to reek out anytime the Lord Nimmo Smith Commission is used as a justification for anything that it contains.

Annex One – Extracts from Lord Nimmo Smith Decision

[5] Although the payments in this case were not themselves irregular and were not in

breach of SPL or SFA Rules, the scale and extent of the proven contraventions of the disclosure rules require a substantial penalty to be imposed;

 

Outline of the Scheme

 

[35] As we have said, a controlling interest in Oldco was held by David Murray through the medium of Murray MHL Limited, part of the Murray Group of companies. Murray Group Management Limited (MGM) provided management services to the companies of the Murray Group. By deed dated 20 April 2001 MGM set up the Murray Group Management Remuneration Trust (the MGMRT). (We note that the MGMRT was preceded by the Rangers Employee Benefit Trust, but we are not aware that they were different trusts. We shall treat them as a continuous trust, which we shall refer to throughout as the MGMRT.)

 

[40] Mr Ogilvie learnt about the existence of the MGMRT in about 2001 or 2002, because a contribution was made for his benefit. He understood that this was non-contractual. Although as a result he knew about the existence of the MGMRT, he did not know any details of it. He subsequently became aware, while he remained director of Oldco, that contributions were being made to the MGMRT in respect of players. He assumed that these were made in respect of the players’ playing football, which was the primary function for which they were employed and remunerated. He had no involvement in the organisation or management of Oldco’s contributions to the MGMRT, whether for players or otherwise. He said:

“I assumed that all contributions to the Trust were being made legally, and that any relevant football regulations were being complied with. I do not recall contributions to the Trust being discussed in any detail, if at all, at Board meetings. In any event, Board meetings had become less and less frequent by my later years at Rangers.”

He also said: “Nothing to do with the contributions being made to the Trust fell within the scope of my remit at Rangers”.

However it should be noted that Mr Ogilvie was a member of the board of directors who approved the statutory accounts of Oldco which disclosed very substantial payments made under the EBT arrangements.

 

[88] In our opinion, this was a correct decision by Mr McKenzie. There is every reason why the rules of the SFA and the SPL relating to registration should be construed and applied consistently with each other. Mr Bryson’s evidence about the position of the SFA in this regard was clear. In our view, the Rules of the SPL, which admit of a construction consistent with those of the SFA, should be given that construction. All parties’ concerned – clubs, players and footballing authorities – should be able to proceed on the faith of an official register. This means that a player’s registration should generally be treated as standing unless and until revoked. There may be extreme cases in which there is such a fundamental defect that the registration of a player must be treated as having been invalid from the outset. But in the kind of situation that we are dealing with here we are satisfied that the registration of the Specified Players with the SPL was valid from the outset, and accordingly that they were eligible to play in official matches. There was therefore no breach of SPL Rule D1.11.

 

[104] As we have already explained, in our view the purpose of the Rules applicable to Issues 1 to 3 is to promote the sporting integrity of the game. These rules are not designed as any form of financial regulation of football, analogous to the UEFA Financial Fair Play Regulations. Thus it is not the purpose of the Rules to regulate how one football club may seek to gain financial and sporting advantage over others. Obviously, a successful club is able to generate more income from gate money, sponsorship, advertising, sale of branded goods and so on, and is consequently able to offer greater financial rewards to its manager and players, in the hope of even more success. Nor is it a breach of SPL or SFA Rules for a club to arrange its affairs – within the law – so as to minimise its tax liabilities. The Tax Tribunal has held (subject to appeal) that Oldco was acting within the law in setting up and operating the EBT scheme. The SPL presented no argument to challenge the decision of the majority of the Tax Tribunal and Mr McKenzie stated expressly that for all purposes of this Commission’s Inquiry and Determination the SPL accepted that decision as it stood, without regard to any possible appeal by HMRC. Accordingly we proceed on the basis that the EBT arrangements were lawful. What we are concerned with is the fact that the side-letters issued to the Specified Players, in the course of the operation of the EBT scheme, were not disclosed to the SPL and the SFA as required by their respective Rules.

[105] It seems appropriate in the first place to consider whether such breach by non-disclosure conferred any competitive advantage on Rangers FC. Given that we have held that Rangers FC did not breach Rule D1.11 by playing ineligible players, it did not secure any direct competitive advantage in that respect. If the breach of the rules by non-disclosure of the side-letters conferred any competitive advantage, that could only have been an indirect one. Although it is clear to us from Mr Odam’s evidence that Oldco’s failure to disclose the side-letters to the SPL and the SFA was at least partly motivated by a wish not to risk prejudicing the tax advantages of the EBT scheme, we are unable to reach the conclusion that this led to any competitive advantage. There was no evidence before us as to whether any other members of the SPL used similar EBT schemes, or the effect of their doing so. Moreover, we have received no evidence from which we could possibly say that Oldco could not or would not have entered into the EBT arrangements with players if it had been required to comply with the requirement to disclose the arrangements as part of the players’ full financial entitlement or as giving rise to payment to players. It is entirely possible that the EBT arrangements could have been disclosed to the SPL and SFA without prejudicing the argument – accepted by the majority of the Tax Tribunal at paragraph 232 of their decision – that such arrangements, resulting in loans made to the players, did not give rise to payments absolutely or unreservedly held for or to the order of the individual players. On that basis, the EBT arrangements could have been disclosed as contractual arrangements giving rise to a facility for the player to receive loans, and there would have been no breach of the disclosure rules.

[106] We therefore proceed on the basis that the breach of the rules relating to disclosure did not give rise to any sporting advantage, direct or indirect. We do not therefore propose to consider those sanctions which are of a sporting nature.

[107] We nevertheless take a serious view of a breach of rules intended to promote sporting integrity. Greater financial transparency serves to prevent financial irregularities. There is insufficient evidence before us to enable us to draw any conclusion as to exactly how the senior management of Oldco came to the conclusion that the EBT arrangements did not require to be disclosed to the SPL or the SFA. In our view, the apparent assumption both that the side-letter arrangements were entirely discretionary, and that they did not form part of any player’s contractual entitlement, was seriously misconceived. Over the years, the EBT payments disclosed in Oldco’s accounts were very substantial; at their height, during the year to 30 June 2006, they amounted to more than £9 million, against £16.7 million being that year’s figure for wages and salaries. There is no evidence that the Board of Directors of Oldco took any steps to obtain proper external legal or accountancy advice to the Board as to the risks inherent in agreeing to pay players through the EBT arrangements without disclosure to the football authorities. The directors of Oldco must bear a heavy responsibility for this. While there is no question of dishonesty, individual or corporate, we nevertheless take the view that the nondisclosure must be regarded as deliberate, in the sense that a decision was taken that the side letters need not be or should not be disclosed. No steps were taken to check, even on a hypothetical basis, the validity of that assumption with the SPL or the SFA. The evidence of Mr Odam (cited at paragraph [43] above) clearly indicates a view amongst the management of Oldco that it might have been detrimental to the desired tax treatment of the payments being made by Oldco to have disclosed the existence of the side-letters to the football authorities.

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Celtic fan from Glasgow living mostly in Spain. A contributor to several websites, discussion groups and blogs, and a member of the Resolution 12 Celtic shareholders' group. Committed to sporting integrity, good governance, and the idea that football is interdependent. We all need each other in the game.

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  1. tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 11:49 am

    Not the SFA the clubs

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    Take your point that the clubs could have forseen problems, but the SFA / SPFL are the governing bodies who should not be pushing (forcing) through changes that are fundamentally flawed and require the clubs to do their jobs for them by predicting potential problems then orgnaising a majority vote against the governing bodies.

    Well paid rule makers have a responsibility to make workabble rules for the good of all their members – not flawed rules to suit their favourite club to the detriment of others.


  2. tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 11:49 am

    But now you want the SFA to restructure the end of the season to Suit 1 club

    Irony

    ==========================================================================

    Quote me the solution I propose in my comment that benefits one club – I assume you mean Hibs.


  3. Mcfc
    Yes the SFA/SPFL are the governing bodies

    But its the clubs that make the contracts and pay the wages

    Blame to where Blame belongs for once

    The clubs know the dates for the playoffs Its their decision to what contracts they give out and who they put on the unemployment line 🙁

    Not the SFA/SPFL

    It’s their choice so they will have to live with it

    Do you think these players want to be out of contract?


  4. easyJambo says:
    March 11, 2015 at 11:42 am
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    been following it closely too. hopefully what is being reported is true. Not just because it is good to see crooks like Earley having their shady business exposed. It is an important case for blogs everywhere and the right to free speech.


  5. Auldheiid@March10th @9.47 pm.
    ……..
    Remembet Graham Greene’s expose of political corruption in Nice in the early 1980s? He entitled his pamphlet ” J’accuse.”
    He wad, of course, emulating Emile Zola’s more internationally influential attack on the French government and military for their deliberate conviction of the wrong man (Dreyfus) on espionage charges, and their refusal to acknowledge the lie, on the grounds that to own up to the deceit would damage the military.
    If you could frame an advertisement along the lines of an accusation (big “WE ACCUSE the SFA of ..deceit and double dealing in the following matters….and demand tjat they explain themselves…:
    Naturally, no risk could be taken of printing any defamatory or other actionable statement….
    But a statement of opinion that someone or some body has done wrong can be quite powerful if the grounds for that opinion are objectively measurable.
    I may be getting carried away with my anger at andcontempt of the people who signed the 5way agreement, but a big lettered accusatory question might certainly grab attention .
    Just an idea for the presentational style of any advert.Content is spot on


  6. tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 12:06 pm

    The clubs know the dates for the playoffs Its their decision to what contracts they give out and who they put on the unemployment line 🙁

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    Many contracts pre-date the re-structure.


  7. @Auldheid

    The first 4 points are key to grabbing attention and setting out the case, imo. Could a few small changes to sentence structure make them a little more punchy?

    Original:

    1. SPL announced on 5th March 2012 that any EBTS from 1st July 1998 used by RFC with side letters would be examined.

    2. EBTs with side letters from November 23 2000 only examined under the terms of reference of the SPL LNS Commission because details of three ebts, two with side letters, not provided to SPL lawyers in April 2012.

    3. These earlier EBTS (along with the 23 November EBT) were irregular (using LNS terminology) and liability had been accepted by RFC for them in March 2011 because of their irregular nature and the fact RFC had denied existence of these side letters in 2005 from HMRC when asked if they existed.

    4. This failure enabled LNS to treat all ebts as regular when three were judged by a FTT not to be, invalidating his judgement to treat all as regular.

    With a few minor changes:

    1. SPL announces on 5 March 2012 that any EBTS with side letters used by RFC from 1 July 1998 will be examined.

    2. However, only EBTs with side letters from 23 November 2000 are examined under the terms of reference of the ‘SPL LNS Commission’. Why? Because details of three EBTs, two with side letters, are not provided to SPL lawyers in April 2012.

    3. These earlier EBTs (along with the 23 November EBT) were irregular, according to LNS terminology. Liability for them had been accepted by RFC in March 2011. When asked by HMRC in 2005, RFC had actually denied the existence of these side letters.

    4. The failure to examine EBTs previous to November 2000 meant LNS treated all EBTs as regular. This was in spite of the fact that three were judged by a (the?) FTT to be irregular. This invalidates LNS judgement to treat all EBTs as regular.


  8. Troll Master General

    Is it just me, or is it a coincidence that the return of Traynor to Ibrox coincides with an upsurge in troll activity?


  9. Mcfc

    No other club is effected by the current end of season schedule

    Bar Hibs

    So yes Hibs


  10. tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 12:17 pm

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    So, quote me the solution I propose in my comment that benefits one club – or I’ll stop feeding you.


  11. Strangely the directors box shenanigans at Ibrox last night reminds me of that bit in Start Wars where Lando betrays Han Solo:

    James Eastdale: I know we’ve got the Main Media outlets in our pocket but aren’t you afraid the on-line community will turn and savage us like they did with the last board once they find out we’ve no money?

    Paul Murray:No, I’ve just done a deal that will keep the on-line warriors off our back forever.

    …..Opens door to the Blue Room and there’s Chris Graham, leggo and Dingwall standing there.
    Chris raises his hand and James Eastdale’s Blazer and Brogues get pulled off his body and fly towards Chris.

    Paul Murray:I had No choice, they Jetted in right before you did, I’m sorry.


  12. mcfc says:
    March 11, 2015 at 12:09 pm
    tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 12:06 pm

    The clubs know the dates for the playoffs Its their decision to what contracts they give out and who they put on the unemployment line 🙁

    ====================================================================

    Many contracts pre-date the re-structure.

    Yes precisely
    And the clubs have had plenty of time to renegotiate

    But in some cases have chosen not to

    Now tell me why this is the SFA/SPFL fault?


  13. John Clark says:

    March 11, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    Auldheiid@March10th @9.47 pm.
    ……..
    Remembet Graham Greene’s expose of political corruption in Nice in the early 1980s? He entitled his pamphlet ” J’accuse.”
    He wad, of course, emulating Emile Zola’s more internationally influential attack on the French government and military for their deliberate conviction of the wrong man (Dreyfus) on espionage charges, and their refusal to acknowledge the lie, on the grounds that to own up to the deceit would damage the military.
    If you could frame an advertisement along the lines of an accusation (big “WE ACCUSE the SFA of ..deceit and double dealing in the following matters….and demand tjat they explain themselves…:
    Naturally, no risk could be taken of printing any defamatory or other actionable statement….
    But a statement of opinion that someone or some body has done wrong can be quite powerful if the grounds for that opinion are objectively measurable.
    I may be getting carried away with my anger at andcontempt of the people who signed the 5way agreement, but a big lettered accusatory question might certainly grab attention .
    Just an idea for the presentational style of any advert.Content is spot on

    ============================================

    Love Graham Greene! Maybe not his later stuff (I’m thinking Monsignor Quixote in particular), but The End of The Affair and The Power and The Glory are probably my favourite books.

    The sort of stuff going on in ‘Our Man in Havana’ wouldn’t be out of place in the current farce at Ibrox – with Chris Graham dealing out moonbeams to his associates instead of plans for vacuum cleaners!


  14. Danish Pastry says:
    March 11, 2015 at 9:58 am

    By the way, the road sign ‘Fart Kontrol’ is quite common in Denmark. As is the use of a ‘Fartplan’ when making travel arrangements. It’s true.

    I remember my first visit to Denmark as a 10 year old as we drove east from Esbjerg to Knudshoved (for the ferry onwards to Sjælland) being helpless with laughter when my dad decided that we’d break the journey just as we crossed from Jylland to Fyn… the fine town of Middelfart!

    My puerile laughter increased dramatically when the first shop we passed in town had a large clothes rail outside: “T-Shits” proclaimed the sign atop the rail.

    And let us not forget the joy of any 10 year old boy at buying something from an establishment called a “Boghandel” and carrying it away in a bag bearing the legend “BOG” in huge letters.


  15. You are corect Falkirk could be in the same position

    Or neither of them depending on their end of league position or how they do in the semis or playoffs

    Tell you what why don’t we all campaign for a 12 month league set up with games only being played on sunny days or when it best suits both teams involved in games


  16. tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 12:33 pm

    And the clubs have had plenty of time to renegotiate

    =============================================================

    When did the season end change?


  17. carfins,

    I agreed with half your post!

    Yes the bears will be plundered in so far as they are the donees of last resort. As long as there are relatively strict controls on where their money goes I don’t necessarily have a problem with that.

    I don’t for instance have a problem with a club/team/holding company/ thingy choosing to run at a significant loss if they only do so because mug punters are stupid enough to fund it.

    Similarly, I don’t have an issue with legally binding contracts, onerous or otherwise. Nobody forced them to sign them. As long as the fans are told about these, and their contribution towards point 1, prior to them putting yet more funds in then cest la vie.

    Equally I don’t have an issue with a tub thumping DK simply living out his 20yo fantasy using OPM if said OP have given him the damn stuff in the first place. My issue is if they (DK and board) start creaming handsome salaries/dividends/consultancy charges using that money if they said they wouldn’t but again its a fine line as to legality.

    Finally, I’m nervous about your automatic jump to age old prejudices, real or otherwise. Yes CG’s appointment was, IMHO, a sideways step, but the immediate jump to an unadulterated 50’s signing policy is perhaps a step too far, just yet.


  18. 2seasons ago
    First playoffs were the end of last season

    BTW
    The clubs probably renegotiated contracts to co inside with the end of the season
    That’s why if its extended they are out of contract


  19. tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 12:39 pm
    You are corect Falkirk could be in the same position

    Or neither of them depending on their end of league position or how they do in the semis or playoffs

    Tell you what why don’t we all campaign for a 12 month league set up with games only being played on sunny days or when it best suits both teams involved in games

    0 4 Rate This

    ////////

    To anyone who thinks this idea is completely ridiculous

    It is no more ridiculous than wanting to extend the end of the season for the benefit of 1 club

    Be that Hibs Falkirk or neither
    Depending on how it all works out


  20. tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    2seasons ago

    ==============================================================

    If the clubs have players out of contract before the planned end of this season, it is their problem.

    If the SFA / SPFL need to extent this season to solve the fixture congestion they created, and players are out of contract becaue of it, it is the SFA / SPFL’s problem.

    The fact that entirely predictable fixture congestion is even an issue is proof positive of incompetence on the part of the SFA / SPFL.


  21. So, one of Ashley’s rejects saved the new regime from total humiliation last night. No wonder they hate Ashley so much.


  22. John Clark
    Danish Pastry

    Thanks guys. I’ll take those points on board.


  23. mcfc says:
    March 11, 2015 at 1:08 pm
    tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 12:56 pm
    ////////////

    No its not bad planning
    Its an unfortunate scenario

    The length of players contracts are to do with the clubs
    Not the SFA/SPFL

    Ask yourselves why punish other clubs involved in the playoffs by asking them to extend players contracts at extra cost to these clubs?

    So to help 1 club
    You financially punish another 3

    Mcfc
    You should be in the SFA board


  24. From Tom Winnifrith on Shareprophets.

    http://www.shareprophets.com/views/11036/tom-winnifrith-high-court-win-victory-video-at-free-speech-liberty

    The lunchtime diners were quiet as I recorded – not quite what you expect on a quiet Wednesday. But I won! Thanks to the supporters and supportive members of the press who turned up to root for me at the High Court. The gagging order, the injunction is lifted and Aiden Earley of the fraud Worthngton (WRN) and Rangers FC pays my costs. This is Round 1.

    Round 2 is in a couple of weeks so that money will be helpful.


  25. Auldheid

    I can’t help with editing of your forensic contribution re. advertisement but I am willing to contribute to it’s cost. If possible can I contribute through offices of TSFM I am a retired pensioner so the amount is small (£20) but I feel if you are not supported properly on here after the amount of painstaking work you have invested over the pass couple of years then the game is a bogey.


  26. tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 1:27 pm

    mcfc says:
    March 11, 2015 at 1:08 pm
    tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    No its not bad planning

    ===================================================

    You just don’t get it – do you?

    Planning means foreseeing difficulties and avoiding them. Difficulties such as the likelihood that up to FOUR clubs could be in the play offs AND the latter stages of cup competitions – causing massive fixture congestion. It is entirely predictable by any competent administrator. Add in a harsh winter and congestion is almost inevitable.

    The SFA / SPFL have overlooked this obvious risk in their eagerness to introduce play-offs. If not incompetence, then what?


  27. tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    BTW tell Mr ogilvie I said hello :mrgreen:

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    A very weak disguise? Am I off your script?


  28. It’s been an interesting introduction to the King regime. Sorry, Murray (P) regime. They could have chosen a conciliatory or an inflammatory approach to dealings with Ashley and Co; they have chosen the latter. That suggests he is not expecting any assistance from that quarter.

    In the meantime, they appear to have adopted both a retro-look and siege mentality to rally the troops. One problem may be that having tried initially to starve out the old regime, Mr King may find some of his troops have broken their Ibrox attending habits and may not be so able or willing to return.

    However, for all Rangers is allegedly a fundamentally profitable outfit in the long-term (although I have my doubts – maybe I will elaborate my thoughts later) there is a more immediate problem coming over the horizon. We are frequently told Rangers is a loss making business with no credit, and one which has repeatedly sought emergency funding to pay bills as they fall due. With Mike Ashley not answering his phone as he contemplates his next move, payroll will have to be met from a different source.

    Am I wrong to imagine a soon to be convened board meeting down Govan way with the acting chair opening with “right lads, time to pony up, Unfortunately Dave has left his cheque-book in Jo’burg – Chris, are you good for £50k?”


  29. @mcfc and tcup2012 – have you considered that you’re both arguing somewhat at cross purposes and actually could both be right?


  30. Auldheid,

    I am more than happy to donate £100 to an Ad.

    What really is so sad, is that in a supposedly civilised country, we not only appear not to have a free and robust press (this is the biggest sports scandal untold) but the creeping powers of Police Scotland is worrying.


  31. senior says:

    March 11, 2015 at 1:31 pm (Edit)

    Auldheid

    I can’t help with editing of your forensic contribution re. advertisement but I am willing to contribute to it’s cost. If possible can I contribute through offices of TSFM I am a retired pensioner so the amount is small (£20) but I feel if you are not supported properly on here after the amount of painstaking work you have invested over the pass couple of years then the game is a bogey.
    ===================
    Many thanks and I really appreciate the offer but I think thatfunding is sorted for now and we are exploring other funding possibilities for another idea that I think would give us more clout.

    That is not to exclude anyone I hasten to add and it is a debate that will no doubt be revisited in the coming months.


  32. Apologies if it’s been covered and I missed it but in all the coverage of King taking control has anyone actually considered whether he’s actually achieved control?

    As far as I can see, all that he has managed to do has been to engineer sufficient support for a change in the board. But this isn’t the same as control because, presumably, the group of people that he managed to convince regarding boardroom appointments could just as easily realign with another faction and depose him if he doesn’t deliver.

    So my question would be, notwithstanding an insolvency event, which group of shareholders does King have to keep sweet to stay in control?


  33. Mcfc

    So far all you have brought to the table is

    1. U blame the SFA/SPFL

    2.tcup you’re a troll 🙄

    Neither of which change the fact that if the league is extended
    It will be utter chaos both financially and contractually


  34. OT but my money says the BBC will appease the 350,000 petitioners and exonerate Clarkson on the grounds that the Producer took a dive!


  35. tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 2:24 pm

    Neither of which change the fact that if the league is extended
    It will be utter chaos both financially and contractually

    =================================================================

    Which you maintain is the clubs’ fault and not the SFA/SPFL.


  36. mcfc says:
    March 11, 2015 at 2:33 pm
    tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 2:24 pm

    Neither of which change the fact that if the league is extended
    It will be utter chaos both financially and contractually

    =================================================================

    Which you maintain is the clubs’ fault and not the SFA/SPFL.
    ////////

    Correct to a point

    The contracts are the clubs problem and fault
    But only if the league is EXTENDED

    The financial side would only ever come into play if the league is EXTENDED

    Other than that
    I will ask again
    Why punish All clubs involved for a scenario which may not even happen And if it does why punish the other 3?


  37. tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 2:44 pm

    Correct to a point

    The contracts are the clubs problem and fault
    But only if the league is EXTENDED

    ===========================================================

    So it’s the clubs’ fault when the SFA/SPFL extend the season to solve the problem the SFA/SPFL created – with only a few weeks notice.


  38. Just read Phil’s latest and he’s quietly confident the chorus of welcome from the mostly uncritical parts of the media may turn into something else over the coming weeks and months. The funding plan the new regime comes up with should be a sight to behold. I wonder when it will be revealed?
    ————
    OT
    Gym Trainer says:
    March 11, 2015 at 12:36 pm
    —-

    Btw Gym, that ferry route you took to Sjælland is no more. An absolutely huge bridge spans the Great Belt. It’s quite a construction. Been over a few times on me motorbike, the mid-section is so high up it’s like flying. I miss the old ferry routes.


  39. mcfc and tcup I think u have both made any points u could and its time to call it a score draw rather than just keep going over the same points all the time 😐


  40. Quick thought about the attendance at the TRFC game last night. Given that Dave King, Paul Murray and Chris Graham have all to some extent or another managed to polarise opinion among the Bears, how far does anyone think that the upsurge in attendance was counterbalanced by fans staying away because of their opposition (primarily) to King & Murray?


  41. DP says@2.53 pm
    ‘ …I miss the old ferry routes’
    ……..
    you old romantic,you!
    I miss the powdered egg of my 1940s pre-school
    childhood (who mentioned eggs?). And the
    Finnieston ferry!
    One would need to be a hard-boiled type of chap to
    be able to lay the nostalgia aside.
    And that’s no yolk.


  42. Auldheid says:
    March 11, 2015 at 11:24 am
    ” ……does anyone want to suggest any amendments.I’m thinking ahead to possible advert territory”

    Excellently distilled sir! All I would suggest, as you know, is keep some of yer powder dry….. Remember how they were able to concoct the Bryson Principle/THE OLDCO etc etc…. lets not offer them that chance again!

    To catch a liar, one needs an eloquent trap…… 😉


  43. tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    Not every event can be foreseen

    ———————————

    That is not true, they may not all be easily measured but they can be foreseen.

    There are well establish tools for risk management and failure predictions that have worked for decades and will continue to serve for many more.

    However, even without those, just a quick call to counterparts in The EFA would have given them that basic information.

    It was, as they say in football, a schoolboy error! And without a shadow of a doubt, was a case of ‘Bad Planning’ by the individuals/groups responsible for change management within our game.


  44. The SFA , and the professional game board in particular, do owe the clubs an apology for not thinking through the consequences of the playoffs.

    That said, all the pro clubs have these things called Company Secretaries, whose function is to ensure that the company, which is the club ;-), abide by all the rules, laws & regulations which pertain to their particular industry, in this case fitba.

    So as is often the case the incompetence of the football authorities is matched only by the incompetence of the clubs. Here’s a radical idea, could it possibly be because the two are essentially the same?

    Scottish fitba needs a strong, independent, regulatory body :mrgreen:


  45. Just checking I understand the RIFC EGM outcomes…

    DK has shares but is not a director / chairman but appears to have shadow control – making statements about how things will happen
    PM is director / chairman but doesn’t seem to own shares – how does that work ? Why was he even allowed in to the meeting?
    The new board suspended Lambias Easdale and Leach so with Somers gone no one from the old board can assure the SFA that the new directors are fit and proper
    The new board of JG and PM have to do the fit and proper thingy to SFA for CG the second
    The requisitioners do appear to have been working in concert
    DKs position with SFA and Companies Act still unclarified especially with Companies Act rules.
    Were Lambias and Leach actually staff as well as directors? What’s the financial implications for the employers?
    How many directors were in place to make decisions? What does the memo and arts of assoc say about that?

    So many questions so little clarity.

    Strategically, how is baiting and winding up the main creditor helpful to the business? Like others I can only think its a plan to contrive an insolvency event, but to whose advantage?

    Is DK still after his original £20M from RFC and he has had an obsessive plan all these years to get it back? Is he the mystery owner of Ibrox but can’t bring himself to be found out about it or it’s partly tied up with a DM company or was he promised it by DM for his 20 mil and didn’t get it? Did DM pass it on to his family like much of MGM?

    Anyhow, it all passes the time nicely keeping up to date on this site a dozen times a day.

    Obsessed? Indubitably
    Mainly because it’s a direct line back to questioning how the SFA didn’t do its job and let us all down (including TRFC fans.)
    Still hoping a club or two breaks ranks and brings the whole mess crashing down.


  46. Madbhoy24941 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 3:45 pm
    tcup 2012 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    Not every event can be foreseen
    //////////

    Madboy

    My stance on this issue
    Is that there is no issues

    First off it all depends on what happens in the up coming games

    Other people are saying the SFA/SPFL are to blame and should act now and extend the league

    My stance on that is that would put the clubs in contractual and financial difficulties

    Also I believe that extending the league would only be to benifit 1 team
    And only if that team reached the SC final and playoff finals

    I also believe that extending the league before such times as said scenario occurs would be punishing all teams or at least 3 teams in the playoffs
    By having to extend contracts or offer short term contracts to players who would technically be out of contract
    And so hurting them financially


  47. zerotolerance1903 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 2:23 pm

    So my question would be, notwithstanding an insolvency event, which group of shareholders does King have to keep sweet to stay in control?
    _____________________________________________________________________

    There are circa 81 million shares/votes in RFC. The GM requisitioners had ca 47 million votes for their resolutions. So indeed King has 57% support of shareholders, but because many didn’t vote (66% turnout), it was trumpeted as an 85% victory. Still means that 43% didn’t give him their backing.


  48. @wottpi

    That’s both Sportsound and SSB set for another enchanted Ibrox evening then. Will anyone ask how they can afford 3 x managers on the payroll?


  49. Danish Pastry says:

    March 11, 2015 at 5:02 pm

    @wottpi

    That’s both Sportsound and SSB set for another enchanted Ibrox evening then. Will anyone ask how they can afford 3 x managers on the payroll?
    =====================
    Make that yet another wage:

    Scottish Sun Sport ‏@scotsunsport · 9m9 minutes ago
    MORE breaking news on @RangersFC from @AndyDev28 – Kenny Black to become Stuart McCall’s assistant manager http://bit.ly/18bTrma


  50. Bad capt madman @ March 11, 2015 at 3.54pm

    “DK has shares…”

    Does he?

    14.57% of the shares were purchased by New Oasis Asset Limited who are described as a company 100% owned by the Family Trust of Dave King.

    So not DK.


  51. Lugosi says…
    So neither DK nor PM appear to have any shares?
    You couldn’t make it up, as an old colleague of mine used to say…Denis B are you reading this?


  52. wottpi says:
    March 11, 2015 at 5:08 pm

    Danish Pastry says:
    March 11, 2015 at 5:02 pm

    BBC seem to think the deal has been done.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31839589

    If McCall’s agent has any sense then he will be asking for top dollar for this Red Adare type mission.

    _______________________________________________________

    It was blindingly obvious from his overall demeanour and general evasiveness as a pundit on all things TRFC that McCall was sounded out some time ago about this eventuality and was keeping his powder dry having been given the nod that he was being lined up for when the time was propitious.

    All part of the roast dinner :slamb:


  53. zerotolerance1903 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 2:23 pm

    Apologies if it’s been covered and I missed it but in all the coverage of King taking control has anyone actually considered whether he’s actually achieved control?

    As far as I can see, all that he has managed to do has been to engineer sufficient support for a change in the board. But this isn’t the same as control because, presumably, the group of people that he managed to convince regarding boardroom appointments could just as easily realign with another faction and depose him if he doesn’t deliver.

    So my question would be, notwithstanding an insolvency event, which group of shareholders does King have to keep sweet to stay in control?

    __________________________________________________

    You presuppose that he has actually gained control, as of now?

    As I see it, King may have grabbed the steering wheel off llambias, but much good it may do him, because Mike ashley has fixed both the fuel supply and the braking system.

    Wouldn’t want to be a passenger on that bus!

    Whether the tyres are still even on tarmac is anyones guess!

    (Well Driven?…. call this number?
    …999)


  54. Response from BT to complaint regards sectarian chants at Raith Rovers v TRFC – frankly I don’t know where to start with this: (Neil Mason is from BT ( yes, I know, I know!))

    Response (Neil Mason) 11/03/2015 03:12 PM
    Thank you for contacting BT Sport about the issue of sectarian chanting. We appreciate you taking the time to get in touch with us.

    We recognise that inappropriate behaviour by fans at live sporting events has the potential to cause offence. We try to prevent this by, for example, adjusting microphone settings so that offensive chants are less likely to be fully audible. We did this for the Raith Rovers v Rangers game.

    We need to strike a balance between putting in place this kind of measure and ensuring that home viewers can feel the atmosphere of the game they’re watching. We’ve reviewed our broadcast of the Raith Rovers v Rangers match and don’t believe offensive chanting was easily discernible by most viewers.

    Nevertheless, we do take on board your views and shall continue to pay close attention to this matter for future broadcasts. We’ve made clear that as an organisation we won’t tolerate racism or sectarianism.

    Best wishes

    BT Sport Team


  55. Can these guys not help themselves??

    SSB Gordon Dalziel ” … there was 35 to 40k at Ibrox last night…”

    Eh no the official figure was 35018, just go with that FFS


  56. On a lighter note
    For Paton to appeal against a red card he must have been logged as such in the Referees report
    And
    The Refs Report surely mentions the name of the player he fouled
    i.e.
    Van Djk
    Likewise
    The same report will describe Van Djk as given a red card for fouling Paton
    Meaning
    The same mistake that gets Paton out of jail free also gets Van Djk out of jail free
    i.e.
    If Paton didnt foul Van Djk then Van Djk didnt foul Paton
    Thats why Butcher got off on Tuesday
    And its why Van Djk will get off on Thursday
    Unless of course
    There`s a goat in the room


  57. By this time next week
    TRFC/RIFC will have more
    Backroom staff,Managers &
    Board members
    Than players

    Well so much for austerity
    Back to the RRM way or should that be The Ranger’s way
    😥


  58. wottpi says:
    March 11, 2015 at 6:10 pm
    Can these guys not help themselves??

    SSB Gordon Dalziel ” … there was 35 to 40k at Ibrox last night…”

    Eh no the official figure was 35018, just go with that FFS
    ///////////

    And my official figure was
    30k 😉

    And I was watching the game
    Was Gordon D ?


  59. A Statement from Ibrox, just issued-

    THE Rangers Football Club Limited confirms that matters have been resolved with Sandy Easdale on an amicable basis.

    Mr Easdale has agreed to resign from his directorships with the Group with immediate effect and he does so wishing the Club, its supporters and the new Board every success for the future.
    The Club thanks Mr Easdale for his co-operation in this changeover and confirms the investigation previously referred to will not now proceed. The Club is also happy to confirm that Mr Easdale did not receive any remuneration in respect of the directorships he held with the Club.


  60. Typical. We think you’ve done wrong and we’ve started an investigation into your conduct in office, whilst suspended. But now you’ve redigned we’ll bin the investigation.

    Really? really????


  61. LMAO @ the item on RepScot just now – Chris Graham in offensive tweet scandal.


  62. Joining PMG’s dots, it seems that King has found more black holes than expected and he knows the cost of filling some/most of them – £27mil.

    It would seem Ashley is not picking up the phone to discuss anything other than an offer for that amount. All sounds plausible.

    What’s a billionaire to do? Pay the ransom or risk his loved one’s safety and maybe the kidnappers getting twitchy and cutting their losses.


  63. Rangers investigate new director’s tweet James Cook Scotland Correspondent, BBC News Rangers Football Club say they are investigating after it emerged that a newly appointed director at Ibrox had apparently sent a sexually explicit cartoon of the prophet Mohammed to a radical Islamist preacher.
    The message was sent from Chris Graham’s account on Twitter to Anjem Choudary on the day of the attacks on the offices of the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris.
    Mr Graham was appointed as a non-executive director at Ibrox yesterday after a South African businessman took charge of the club last week.
    Barely 24 hours later he is at the centre of controversy about his activity on social media before he joined the board.


  64. wildwood says:
    March 11, 2015 at 6:40 pm

    So Llambias and Leach are called out in the press for effectively blackmailing the club/company to get their contractual salaries.

    The new board by dropping the previous publicly announced investigations seems to be blackmailing previous directors to go quietly.

    Open and transparent ma bahookey!!


  65. Chick Young back to his best :slamb: on the national broadcaster tonight. He tells the nation that the atmosphere has been “poisonous” at Ibrox for the last three years. In fact he uses the word ‘poisonous’ about six times. Probably never used it once during the period he claimed it was poisonous though. Clearly he’s not just on the payroll of our pathetic national broadcaster.

    As for Kenny Shiels, someone needs to sit the poor man down and explain to him the implications of the liquidation process, or does he just fancy a gig at the new club?


  66. jimlarkin says:
    March 11, 2015 at 6:58 pm

    If that’s the level of due diligence they do on their directors lord help them what they have done so far and what may yet come regarding the financials.


  67. wottpi says:
    March 11, 2015 at 7:07 pm
    jimlarkin says:
    March 11, 2015 at 6:58 pm

    If that’s the level of due diligence they do on their directors lord help them what they have done so far and what may yet come regarding the financials.

    ==========================
    It hardly needed much due diligence to tell them about Chris Graham. I think that they knew exactly what they were getting, and thought he would be a perfect fit in the Blue Room. Just a shame that a few “haters” had captured screenshots of his stupidest tweets before he deleted his account. Believe me, there were plenty stupid ones to choose from.

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