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Bogs DolloxNovember 4, 2017 at 00:08 ‘..The funniest thing I did …

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Bogs DolloxNovember 4, 2017 at 00:08
‘..The funniest thing I did see was a big dispute over agents fees from one manager where he expected them to pay but they refused and took it out of his dough. Boy was he a grumpy git from that point on.’
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You’ve just reminded me that I spent a good couple of hours the other day discovering that ‘agents’ are no longer ‘agents’ but ‘Intermediaries’, and that they have to pony up £250 every  year to get their ‘licence’ but no longer have to sit and pass an exam, and that they have to submit details of their contract with a player or with a club…to the SFA..

I had no idea that all that kind of ‘agent’ stuff had changed in 2015.

And, following the path of pursuit of knowledge [made so much easier by the wonderful Internet!], I discovered ,prompted by the news item of Tierney’s 6-year contract, that Celtic  had disbursed a total of £877,321 to 37 ‘intermediaries’ in the most recent accounting period.

An average of £23,711 each.

Among these was Pierre van Hoojdoink.[and I mention that in fun, because my son’s claim to football fame is that when he played with an Edinburgh club  in one match v Whitehill Welfare he played against the guy in that team who had been up against Pierre!]

If anyone is interested, the link
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/Documents/Intermediaries/IntermediaryTransactions2016-2017.pdf 
is interesting.

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Enough is enough
AuldheidNovember 21, 2017 at 12:36
‘..when the football authorities try to force that idea into the heads of other supporters when it conflicts with sound and reasonable football rules the football authorities are supposed to apply..’
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Precisely.
What RIFCplc/TRFC Ltd and their supporters and the SMSM say is neither here nor there, whether they are consciously lying to the rest of us or are have been shocked into delusion by the emotional blow of losing their club.
The Truth is that neither the SFA nor the SPFL can  legitimise the Big Lie.  Rangers of old is no more. It has not been, and cannot be , resurrected.
TRFC Ltd is a 6-years-old football club, utterly unconnected with RFC(IL)- legally, commercially and in relation to football honours earned.
If there were any kind of link to be made, it would be the shameful one of being linked in cheating: RFC(IL) was,until its Liquidation,in the control successively of master-cheats SDM and CW,   and TRFC Ltd and RIFC plc are also in the control of cheats, some of whom,indeed,  were on the board of the club that is now in Liquidation.
One would almost feel compassion for the common run of supporter, being so badly let down by the same unpleasant types of businessmen.


Enough is enough
HomunculusNovember 19, 2017 at 23:22
‘…The new stand at Tynecastle is looking the part, at least on TV.’
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Lord, it made my feet itch to be on that pitch, it looked so superb.And when I think of how good I was on the ash pitches in Carntyne in 19 fifty feckin 4, I wonder what my slide-rule passes  would have been like on a surface like that!21

I listened to  Sportsound (before the radio commentary on the match), and I have to say that Richard Gordon kind of disappointed me by appearing to focus on the ‘safety certificate’ delay, rather than on the really positive and celebratory aspects of a significant community and sporting occasion.

An occasion made possible only by the sheer determination of honest people to save, by honest means, their historic club from death by Liquidation, the prospect of which had been  caused by a sleazeball ‘owner’
There was another sleazeball of an owner of another club……a club to save which the very  Sports Governing body threw out the rule book and all adherence to a belief in Integrity and honesty in sport.

Which sleazeball was not at all criticised on BBC Radio Scotland at any time!

They were too feart to do that.Or, perhaps, too emotionally involved, too stuffed with succulent lamb.


Enough is enough
TrisidiumNovember 19, 2017 at 13:40
‘…The ‘same club’ myth will survive of course. In the same way as Santa, the Tooth Fairy and the Loch Ness Monster do.I have no issue with those who subscribe to any or all of these’

HomunculusNovember 19, 2017 at 15:13
‘…I have absolutely no issue with people believing whatever they want, ‘
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Of course, having an attitude of amused toleration of other people’s views is all very well, and commendable: but only where those views are not allowed to be translated into realities and practicalities that are damaging to us.

The very governing body of a sport facilitated the creation of the Big Lie that a shilpit,6-year-old club playing out of Ibrox stadium has a record of sporting achievement second to none.

It is a lie that strikes deep at the very heart of football as fair competition, an un-rigged sport, in which  after honourable and fair sporting competition, victors are awarded well-merited honours and titles.

It replaces that idea with a grubby, venal, ultimately self-defeating idea that ‘honours and titles’ can be bought from the record of a defunct sporting entity.

It is a patent absurdity.

And, forbye, although we may compassionately indulge the fantasy of the TRFC Ltd supporter, God bless him, whose intellect may have been permanently weakened by the hugely unbalancing emotional shock of the death of the club he used to support, the SFA Board and the Board at Ibrox can be offered no such indulgence.

Those guys (and the one gal) KNOW damn fine that they cheated us all, both by not dealing appropriately with the cheating RFC (IL) , and by allowing false claims from RIFC plc/TRFC Ltd to be something that they are not. 

And the SFA, I believe, knows that if they opened themselves to  investigation from outside ( before the shredding machine got further work to do!)  damning material would be found.

If only we had had some ICIJ-type journalists when SDM first started his spending spree of (very largely)our money!


Recent Comments by John Clark

It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
My brother and I, auld men now that we are, meet occasionally for a pint or three.
We tend to pay homage to our late dad by visiting one of the pubs he used as a young man afore the war ( he lived in digs near Partick Cross) , or one of the pubs he used when we were kids during his working life at what  used to be Glasgow Corporation Tramways Parkhead depot,  or the pub he used in Tollcross in his retirement days.
So I feel for the patrons of what had been Annie Miller’s pub in Ropework lane.
If and when the new owners of the premises tart it up gaily as a feeder bar for their adjoining sauna, I expect that it will no longer be a ‘Rangers’ pub,a place of shared enjoyment of football memories and celebration of former days of glory.

Like the historic Rangers Football Club, Annie Miller’s is dead. Ceased trading in 2016. No longer exists as a ‘Rangers’ pub, any more than the Rangers Football Club of 1872 exists as a professional football club entitled to a place in Scottish Football.
That’s the reality.
There isn’t even a ‘Scottish Football Pubs Association’ prepared to create and propagate a lie  that ‘Annie Miller’s’ lives on, there have been no white or green knights/knaves rushing in to found ‘continuity Annie Miller’s’, no running-dog SMSM types betraying their avocation by propagating untruths……and.no convicted criminals begging, borrowing and making false promises about good times to come if only other folk will produce the readies…
Annie Miller’s is dead and gone.
Only a lie sustains TRFC Ltd.
And those who drank in Annie Miller’s know that.
And the evil men of the SMSM and the SFA know it, too.
May 2018 see them confounded, and their untruths exposed.


It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
FinlochDecember 30, 2017 at 20:42
‘…Craig took a Corinthian and undisciplined club going nowhere fast, rooted it into a previously ignored community and has achieved some incredible health and social goals deep into that community using football as glue.’
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Beautifully expressed, Finloch.

Football as a glue of ‘community’

Of community trust,

of basic honesty,

of the  Corinthian spirit,

of sporting integrity….

and of all the virtues that the SFA has so spectacularly abandoned, in its determination to insist that Charles Green’s Sevcoscotland is entitled to call itself the Rangers of 1872

That such an incredibly monstrous perversion of truth of any kind, never mind sporting truth, is being, and has been for 5 years, propagated by our Football Governance body and supported by the SMSM is stark evidence of a deep, deep corruption at the heart of our sport, and, worse, at the very essence of our ‘free’ Press.

in this little country of ours.


It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
And since I’m talking to myself while all you guys and gals are snoring your heads off, can I just mention that in the local newspaper this morning there was a piece about school sports.

It seemed to be about the ‘pick’ of the best players.

I didn’t have time today to read the whole thing ( and it’s too late to disturb the household to go looking for the paper!) but it seemed to be related to the use by ‘soccer’ teams of the American  Football  concept of who gets to pick the best player in the ‘draft’.

I have only the haziest understanding of that concept.

But in so far as it might relate to attempts to create genuine ‘sporting’ , on-field, equality of talent, it must have something to recommend it.

Even the Americans realise that in order to make money out of sport,there has to be some concept of genuine ‘sporting competition’

Auldheid reminded us, quite movingly, of the joyous nature of our game as we all experienced it.
We all knew instinctively what was fair, and what wasn’t.
Remember how our street game teams were picked?

The two ‘captains’ tossed for first choice.Whichever won the toss would pick the ‘best’ player. The other guy would pick ‘the second best’ and so on.

And, if it appeared that there was an imbalance ,or if there was an odd number of players, then it would be agreed that a ‘John Clark’ would play the first half for one side to give them the extra man, and the second half for the other side, to try to be fair in the use of that useless lump!

( who, I may say, was actually quite good at lifting the wee ba’ from the street up onto the pavement, one hand on the lamp-post outside the Thomson’s house on Cuthelton Street, and bringing it to the goal at the lorry entrance to the Domestos depot ( formerly Donald Clarke’s steel kind of place, which in 1947 sirened One o’Clock,with the siren they used ‘during the war!’)

And it is these kinds of memories that fuel my contempt
contempt for the cheating bast.rd of a knight of the realm who killed the RFC of my day

contempt for the SFA who, like some referees,not only did not ‘see’ that cheating but went further and assisted in that cheating

And who continue to propagate the lie that the football club that cheated its way to death by Liquidation is somehow the same club as a five year old creation that they themselves have lied into existence.

And as for the the whole lot of the successive boards of either Sevco 5088, Sevcoscotland, The rangers football Club Ltd, RIFC plc  how can they be described otherwise than as  scavengers of carrion? Feeding as they do on the dead flesh of a once proud football club?

It gars me greet…
Quietly and solemnly, into my glass of “Goose IPA, 5.9%, made from hops from Idaho” ( And actually quite surprisingly pleasant, reminiscent of McEwan’s pale ale.


It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
It’s 11.43 pm in Scranton,PA,  and we have just come back from being wined and dined  in tremendously good company in a friends-of-the-son’s home.

I am therefore in a cheerful frame of mind. (Mind you, sitting in the back seat of the car I had one of those A9 moments of absolute fear, when the driver overtook another car on a blind bend, before I realised we were still on a dual carriageway!)….

For one reason or another, it suddenly strikes  me that I don’t actually know ( or remember) when it was that the concept of ‘transfer windows’ was introduced, or why it was introduced.

On the face of it, it’s as much of a restriction of ‘trade’ on ’employers’, as the pre-Bosman situation was on freedom of employment was on ‘workers'(players).

Is there a decently worked out rationale for the concept?


It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
easyJamboDecember 27, 2017 at 17:49
‘..I think that the document will only be a restatement of the resolutions that were approved at the AGM (Resolutions 10 & 11).’
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You’re perfectly right, of course, eJ: it was only the official recording  of the AGM resolutions.

I think I for one (in my general ignorance) tend to think that any plc of which a director has been taken to the Courts( in an unprecedented action by the Takeover Panel) would have every form or document that it submitted to Companies House rigorously examined, cross-checked, double-checked, treble checked ,even, in a way that ,for example, the SFA does not do with documents submitted to it by its trustworthy gentlemen members.

The Takeover Panel has a lot riding on how the Law stands in its approach to the Panel’s need for support in their regulation of rogues in the market-place.

So I tend to look at anything touching on RIFC plc that seems even a wee bit different as something worth exploring.

Largely tongue-in-cheek, of course: -we’re not likely ever to be told anything confidential by CH! But if they say something will appear, and then it doesn’t appear when promised, then it allows one to ask why. Keeps them on their toes!

And we know that when even the gentlemen of our free Press are not above behaving with less than complete honesty when it comes to TRFC Ltd/RIFC plc  there may (God forbid!) exist a ‘protective of companies’ mindset in CH, rather than a ‘get the baddies’ approach.

Who knows?


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