Enough is enough


JIMBONOVEMBER 19, 2017 at 10:58  Why all this misplaced trust by the …

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JIMBONOVEMBER 19, 2017 at 10:58 

Why all this misplaced trust by the bears in their boards of directors.

As I said in an earlier post, it can go on forever as far as I am concerned.  However, to compound things further I think young Murty wrote himself out of the running to be Manager with the result yesterday. Another win would have given them more reason to appoint him as an affordable option. Perhaps there is a solution though, as suggested by another caller to Radio Clyde. Apparently all the Directors ‘should sell up all their other business interests and put the money into the Rangers’!

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The Clumpany, who sometimes posts on here, get’s it spot on in terms of the media coverage of a new Manager search at Ibrox.


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JOHN CLARKNOVEMBER 19, 2017 at 16:58 ______________You can breathe a little easier,uth, when I say that such funding as was received from Sportscotland is secured against a charge on“All and Whole the subjects known as Training Centre Youth Academy,Auchenhowie Road,Milngavie,Glasgow G42 6EJ  and registered in the Land Register of Scotland under title number DMB65871”


Thanks John. Given there is public interest in this facility I wonder how that sits with it being offered to every Celtic European opponent for training? Probably not much to be honest. However in my opinion it is a practice as petty and pathetic as banning players from wearing green boots.  I was glad to see the Celtic CEO response at the AGM to the shareholder who objected to Celtic using Parks of Hamilton coaches, who are of course owned by a Rangers Director.  Apart from anything else Celtic have been using that firm for decades, and believe they are the best available. Predictably though some in the media used the view of one Celtic shareholder to sneer and generalise about the priorities of the fans. Perhaps they should glance at the coach park behind the Jock Stein stand at the next home game and see how much it bothers some Celtic supporters clubs who also use Parks. 

Enough is enough
JIMBONOVEMBER 19, 2017 at 13:36

Even if they somehow do manage to convert the loans to shares, unless they seriously cut their cloth, the need for borrowing will simply kick in again.  

As for Murray Park the question I always have is whether it was actually paid for, or the money which it cost to build was included in the £800m written off by BOS. Remember Murray transferred £50m of the debt attributed to the football club to other parts of his group, not that long after Murray Park was built. There is not much left to happen that could be a shock, but surely if their much bragged about training facility was effectively paid for by a majority state owned bank it would be a major scandal. I guess we’ll never know because no-one seems willing to look under the bonnet to establish why BOS supported them to the level they did. 

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Questions, questions, questions
Mordecai 17th August 2022 At 05:31


The BBC did provide me with the Information Commissioner’s contact details in the event I wanted to take the matter further and I have indeed done just that! I really can’t see how in the event that a publicly funded organisation has used public money to gain media access to a football club that we don’t have a right to know. If they haven’t done so I believe we also have the right to know given this payment for media access was a known issue last season.

Questions, questions, questions
A few weeks ago, after the BBC published its groveling apology towards Ibrox, I asked under Freedom of Information whether (a) they have paid licence fee money to gain media access at Ibrox, and (b) whether any other Scottish club charges them for media access. They responded basically saying they don’t have to tell me, as journalism is not covered by the FOI act. I find this incredible given that if they have paid for access, they will have used money contributed by all licence fee payers. Also, does paying for access compromise their right to apply the same level of analysis as they do to clubs who don’t charge?

Edit: I see a fans forum online claiming the charge has been ditched ‘quietly’.

Questions, questions, questions
John Clark 6th August 2022 At 23:42

But my deepest scorn is for those in the SMSM who ought, ought as a matter of journalistic duty, as being the very essence of ‘journalism’, to have got right into the stupid, stupid, lie that a football club in Liquidation was somehow still participating in Scottish Football as if it had not died!


For me the most disappointing thing is journalists who we know are not cheerleaders for all things Ibrox, being cowed into submission, I could mention them here, but basic human decency makes me know they have a job, and a family, and an employer who is beholden to all things ‘Rangers’. However, they really need to ask themselves why they ever bothered becoming journalists in the first place, because the ‘seeking the truth others don’t want to hear’ claim really doesn’t hold water! They’ve sold their soul, and they know it!

Questions, questions, questions
Big Pink 6th August 2022 At 09:41

Seems unlikely that Morelos is part owned by anyone else. However there’s only way of testing either theory is if he is transferred, and that seems an ever decreasing outcome given all we have talked about for the last four years is how much he will be offloaded for.
Also, what happens if he runs goes contract down? Would that mean that the 14% would also disappear?
Just doesn’t sound right at all.


You may well be right, however given all that’s come to pass since 2012 I don’t think it can be ruled out either. If it is a breach of the SFA’s registration procedures what confidence would we have the SFA would do anything about it anyway? The absurd LNS investigation springs to mind. Also, the SFA themselves found there was a case to answer regarding the award of a European licence in 2011, then went on to just drop the case!

The tax thieving American businesswoman Leona Helmsley once said “taxes are for the little people”. In the same way, SFA rules are for the little people, who are every other club bar the one playing out of Ibrox. I don’t think there’s any doubt about that.

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Wokingcelt 28th July 2022 At 21:13

Taking a step back you have to ask what on earth has gone on here. I am fairly confident that the UK Government will face a public inquiry (or is that enquiry – I can never get that one right!) over Covid loans and procurements made. Not saying that it will put right the wrongs but at least there will be a report. I have zero confidence that any such inquiry will be held in Scotland to account for the untold millions – by my reckoning north of £100m which if scaled up would be north of £1.2bn in UK terms. And all for a football club – totally unconscionable.


The Scottish Government have said an independent inquiry will be held once all the legal processes are complete. The trouble is, how do you guarantee true independence in such a matter in Scotland? Nothing should be more independent than the Police and the legal system yet that is what will be under scrutiny. I doubt the Scottish Government will want any inquiry to say that there is institutional bias towards ‘Rangers’ because that would then lead to so many other questions. I suspect a lot more taxpayers money will be spent on a whitewash, with the real truth emerging in 30 years time. The very fact that so many politicians and media commentators stay silent on what is an absolute scandal tells us all we need to know. If it concerned any other football club there would be outrage. Old attitudes don’t die easily, and are clearly passed down the line. We should be truly thankful that HMRC do not answer to the Scottish Government.

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