Gilt-Edged Justice


Whullie says, I agree that Auldheid/TSFM whistleblower draft should be circulated …

Comment on Gilt-Edged Justice by bad capt madman.

Whullie says,
I agree that Auldheid/TSFM whistleblower draft should be circulated to our email addresses to allow us all to send a copy, (possibly individualised by anyone if preferred), or even just posted as a blog if emailing is too onerous.

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Gilt-Edged Justice
Brenda – thanks for reminding us of the lack of action.
Have emailed Mr Lunny & Mr Ogilvie …

I am aware of the reporting of the ESPN broadcast of The Rangers and Berwick, and would want clarification that you will be investigating the obvious sectarian singing.

You cannot ignore this.


Lets hope for a reply….

Gilt-Edged Justice
I think I can follow your logic about the evidence presented and LNS being led by it, but I still would assume, and hope, that a panel not bound by Court standards would use the main evidence available i.e. the full regulations of the SPL and the SFA, and test other arguments against them. If that were the case, then LNS should have taken oral evidence from Mr Bryson with a BIG pinch of salt considering he would probably not have been able to show written examples of his interpretation, either in Scotland or anywhere else in Europe which are governed by UEFA regs that the SFA ones are supposedly based on.
Sorry, Im still of the view that the defence of the LNS decision is overly legalistic, and does not change the fact that LNS used standards of proof which were not appropriate to a civil case where balance of probabilities, common sense, custom and precedent should have been more consistent with his remit.
Further, if the SFA had dealt with the matter internally, there would not have been the overly legalistic double thinking going on, sorry, there would not have been a high court judge’s experience involved. There would have been an interpretation of RFCs actions assessed against the regulations that every club has had to follow for years, or risk the judgement of non legally trained FA officials, as happened to Spartans, etc etc.
No, what we have here is a succesfully sneaky campaign where a proper guilty verdict could be minimised through the involvement of judges with a remit designed to do just that.

Gilt-Edged Justice
As a don, I’m embarrased that Alex Smith was also associated with our club.
Well now we have it though, a stalwart of the Scottish game openly calling for sporting integrity, honesty and fairness to be ditched again in favour of….what?
He might want to consider just how many fans will not be back if what he’s proposing takes place.
Shocking, disgusting, but maybe a game changer….how many other managers, chairmen, board members and stalwarts feel the same as him?
It’s now clear the choice is an up front more skirting round the side issues..its for all of us to stand for fairness or not. As other posters have said, what happens after TRFC are in the top league? Will they be kept there regardless of their abilities on the field for the same reasons Smith spouts off about? What will be done to keep them up if they are at risk of being last in the league? Who in authority would be trusted anymore? Referees? Disciplinary panels? Rule makers? No. None of them would be or could be trusted, and then no fans of other clubs would bother going to see the farce transpire at £20+ a pop.
Another shameful day if the world of Scottish football. So sad and so unnecessary.

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It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
Homunculus –
where’s your Xmas spirit?
Personally I’m waiting for the MSM commenting that poor Mr King has suffered enough so the TOP, the courts and the rest of us should all just move on.
We all know that:-
1 coals should not be raked over and 
2 everyone needs a strong “rangers” – else the sky might fall on our heads (is this the first Asterix reference on the site?)

Who Is Conning Whom?
Sorry for straying into club territory here, but as a dons fan, I think DM has been seriously damaged by all this and that’s why I think a disrepute charge against TRFC is appropriate.
However – if he has no intention of leaving, as he and the chairman have said, then he’s been seen to fail under the pressure. When he could have used the same attacking tactics against TRFC as other teams have and succeeded, instead he’s looked like a rabbit in headlights, minimising our strengths. Constant selection changes also seem to weaken the team, and DM now appears damaged goods not able to deliver when really necessary against our main rivals. 
Given these failings, why would TRFC want him?
I feel sorry for the guy but he should have overtly said he’s not interested during the lifetime of his contract – or until AFC sack him. At least one dons fan site has rumours that the players think he’ll leave (and take some with him later- McLean?) and he’s lost the dressing room. 
If he does stay he has work to do to regain trust. 
If he goes, well the trust was obviously misplaced, and DM will be seen in the same light as Ryan Jack, or worse.
If this was a cunning plan by an opposition team, then a disrepute charge it is, or should be – and bad show DM for falling for it and not commiting to AFC more strongly much earlier.

Who Is Conning Whom?
Well said JC,
If he does leave to a club he’s spectacularly lost two back to back games to, after weeks of media / pr pressure, then questions should indeed be asked, but of whom?
The SFA will never charge TRFC with bringing the game into disrepute over this, although it should.
AFC could have put him on leave but that could have led to DM claiming constructive dismissal, and left AFC with no compensation. It’s all very murky.
There’s no point complaining to the media about their constant bias.
What are the rules about “tapping up” managers? I’m sure if there are any, there willl be considerable scope for discretion by the SFA and burden of proof issues.
Us dons fans however are rightly suspicious that something ain’t right, and although we can like every other team blow it on occasion and often against glasgow teams, the recent selections and tactics dont show DM in a good light if he does leave – “suspicious” will then not be the appropriate word we’ll be using though…

Who Is Conning Whom?
good analysis, can I add that the timing of the Brechin game in the cup possibly helped rush through this rotten deal.
Who played Brechin indeed. If they had taken more time to consult and negotiate their wheeze it might have worked out better but in my view it was all about keeping up the pretence that Sevco were indeed RFC and this couldnt have held up if the cup game didnt happen.
What was required therefore was the invention of the ‘conditional membership’ to allow a non football club to play in the cup, thereby giving them access to the leagues. Cue the renaming of the club and hey presto! IT IS RANGERS AFTER ALL!

Enough is enough
Hirsute has just nailed the name of the next & subsequent teams out of Ibrox – Metaphysical Rangers FC.
Also wonder about the timing of Ernest’s appearance and arguments – setting the scene / rehearsing arguments for the next transformation? Well done JC & Auldheid etc for your patient replies.

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