Gilt-Edged Justice


Andrew Woods says: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 07:09 Just reading …

Comment on Gilt-Edged Justice by upthehoops.

Andrew Woods says:
Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 07:09

Just reading about The Rangers – Puma deal. So no money up front but commission paid per jersey sold.

Strikes me as one of those “pay as you play” deals clubs sometimes offer to high risk injury prone players or wayward has-beens who are coming to the end of their career.

Puma clearly don’t have a lot of confidence that TRFC are in it for the long haul.

The fact that the Puma and Blackthorn deals were announced with no financial figures mentioned tell us all we need to know. I’d be amazed if Blackthorn are paying any more than £400-500K.

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I noticed a scan of an article elsewhere (presumably from one of today’s red tops) claiming there is no scouting budget at Ibrox. Is it not reasonable to think that a club who claim the old crash and burn financial strategies of the past are over would be putting plans in place to ensure the best possible value can be obtained from future player recruitment? It makes you wonder how the ‘payback’ all clubs have been threatened with on entry to the top league is going to be achieved with a policy of prudence and wages no more than 33% of turnover. Perhaps though Charles Green will be history by that time and more traditional ways will be to the fore again.

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TW (@tartanwulver) says:
Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 20:24

If heaven and earth are moved to escalate progress Rangers into the SPL in the name of finance / TV interest / whatever else, I wonder what the odds would be on them EVER being relegated. Even if they were to be the worst Rangers team ever. Even if they were the worst Scottish team ever.

Heaven and earth will only move if the rest of the clubs wish it to. The same groundswell of opinion by the fans as last summer will surely mean it won’t happen.

The really sad thing for me is that those such as Alex Smith, David Provan, Craig Burley, and the endless line of media commentators who are demanding a fast track are basically saying the only way the game can survive is by Rangers being in the top league and winning it. If they can be fast tracked into it against the natural laws of sporting integrity then they can be fast tracked to the top of it. People should be careful what they wish for at times.

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thereek says:
Saturday, March 9, 2013 at 06:24

An interesting and thought provoking article. I wonder how those who have vouched for LNS on this site will react to it ? Not legally trained in any way but Glasnost appears to point to a very narrow interpretation of the rules in handling this case, one which is at odds with some fundamentals of law.
In turn this can raise a question over why such an approach was followed by LNS and his two chums.

A good decision to repost the article here. I think it well deserves the widest possible audience and will encourage debate here especially from our legals

Like you I have no legal qualifications, but I have been fascinated by the number of people who do who post very challenging views on the LNS decision, and (like this one does) expose the absurdity of it.

I do not apologise for being a conspiracy theorist, but I genuinely believe the establishment drew a line in the sand over how far they were prepared to go with Rangers. The alternative decision for LNS could have seen court battles drag out for years, and even thrown into question the results of International and European games. It would simply have been a step too far and was never going to happen.

The saddest aspect for me is the triumphal ‘it’s been proven we did not cheat’ stance from Ibrox. Going back to my original point, I’m sure many highly qualified and respected legal minds would beg to differ. I remember in the 1970’s newspapers got a hold of a story that Police stopped a car driving well in excess of the maximum speed on the motorway. Shocked to discover the driver was none other than Princess Anne, no further action was taken. Did that entitle Princess Anne to triumphantly announce she was not speeding? No, of course it didn’t, but it did show the establishment are prepared to turn a blind eye to lawlessness depending on who the law breaker is.

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