Good Try Mr. McKenzie

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Nice one ex ludo!! On fitba and wealth I see a …

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Nice one ex ludo!!
On fitba and wealth I see a wee puff piece in the DR this morning (they manage to get TRFC a mention!) about Real Madrid pushing through the elite Euro carve up.  I guess this has to go down as “why should RM share their hard earned dosh with anyone else”.  To be fair they have another 20 or so clubs in mind.  I’m sure it will be great for them but I suspect the viewing public will tire of it in the long run:  it would be good if “the rest” were to take the initiative here instead of adopting the position.

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Good Try Mr. McKenzie
Went to Pittodrie yesterday, thoroughly enjoyed it…eventually.  The problem with Scottish fitba?  10,000 crowd. Pathetic.  Fair do’s to AFC for clawing a second place challenge out of that support though.


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An interesting debate and, especially given that the SFM community are probably a more “considered” cross section of the general fitba public, I think my assumption that Celtic and their fans will not get fed up of being top dog is correct.  Quite rightly I add quickly!  I have no problem with that, I look forward to seeing how much of a dent they can make on the next level and, more importantly to me, how the Dons can make a dent on them.  
So Scottish fitba will be fine and will generally reflect the social and political market driven agenda. As for TRFC, they’ll be ok, any team that can sell 40k season tickets can (important word selection there) survive and thrive.  All they need is 5 or 6 spiv free years.  Unlikely to be in my lifetime but thrive they will.
As there is no appetite for radical change I agree with previous posters that we need to concentrate on developing our players but I fear this too will be all about clubs’ self interest rather than what’s good for youth development.  I also still believe that a key issue is that we have too many clubs in our PFL but I’m not volunteering to scrap the Dons any more than anyone else is their team!  Perhaps a good start might be financial criteria that require strict adherence?


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I don’t think that Scottish fitba is at the terminal stage …yet.  Currently the panic over Celtic’s gap  is primarily because it’s nae fair on Therangers.  (That’s why, Ryan, any TRFC light relief is leapt on here and on some other places: most of us are sick of the p*sh that is poured upon us re magic hat (potential English manager last year), £6m squirrels, going for 55 etc. However, I digress)
The “problem” will eventually come about when, and if, Celtic  fans really do get fed up with the lack of competition because , as has often been said it makes no difference to the rest of us whether it is a two or one horse race.  I’m nae sure the big two get that but believe me it is the case. But long term the problem could be the gap and it’s sustainability to Celtic. This “gap” is not a given, it’s only 6 months since Celtic had a management and squad that didn’t really reflect the, fully deserved, huge advantage due to their resources versus the rest. They seem to have cracked that and there is no reason to expect that they will not keep the level and the gap going.  I have to say that I am in two minds about whether I’d like it fixed because I believe the only fix would be to change the structure of our game completely.  It would have to be driven by Celtic of course as their would be no reason to change unless they see it as a longer term benefit to them.  (Let’s face it, they have a brilliant problem!)
The fix would require a USA type approach to league sport with tv and prize money shared out, academy approach to youth players (i.e. shared out basically) and a lot less teams.  Gate money and merchandising retained.  It would make the game better but I’m not sure I’d like it.
I’ve kept this short but have thought and argued this subject a fair bit!  I’ve come to the conclusion that we all expect Celtic to get fed up…. I wonder if that’s just not more SMSM p*sh?  Would we be having a similar discussion if TRFC were running away with it to the same extent?  Also, would it really be disastrous if Cetic didn’t get a 50k crowd per week?  My lot average 13k and we’re having fun, it’s a game of fitba.


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JOHN CLARKDECEMBER 8, 2017 at 11:50
Aye a fair quantum of concomitance with that quintessential SFMship is required to give the Saintees biggest fan anything else rather than the cold shoulder on a decent night out.  The misguided view that TRFC have an elevated status is founded on a sense of entitlement so the sucking up to L5 feeds and speculation is not unexpected amongst fans with laptops and EBT’ers such as Boyd, Rae, Ferguson et al.  The illuminating thing here is just how far the supposed journos have gone down the same road, with the notable exception of Chick in this case.  I suspect he may well have had an inside track which is more than we can say about any of the others.  Who knows, maybe he asked TRFC, an off the wall idea for the SMSM there?


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That statement clears the air.  The SMSM clearly didn’t appreciate how much TRFC didn’t want McInnes anyway, that’s ’em telt.


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Smugas, I fully concur that Milne should, and probably has, have been working behind the scenes to replace McInnes should he leave and I’m well aware that is how it goes. However, my anger is directed at the SMSM who have been a disgrace: it’s not a novel situation, one only has to look back to Alan and TRFC a year or two ago and multiple managerial appointments in the history of the game (Burns e,g.). It just hasn’t happened to has for a while because we haven’t had the talent to poach (note poach as opposed to pay for which is business).  The core issue for me is that McInnes negotiated a lucrative extension to his contract, including a major salary increase, which includes a compensation deal expressly to deal with the situation of a “big” club coming in for him.  If it was Wolves, Blackburn and the like the comp would not be an issue.  It’s TRFC, they’re skint and they’re spivs, so roll up tame media: Mcinnes “has” to quit.  I won’t spend any time getting hung up about the fact that TRFC are in it up to their bollox, but neither should we give the cheating b*stards a free ride.  AS for McInnes, if he goes he’s a mug and that surprises me.


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Tayred/Finloch.  My reading of it is that Milne has indeed told TRFC exactly that, show us the money and you can talk.  Refunded if it falls through.  That’s translates into “Milne forces McInnes to have to quit” headlines from the weegia.  The key point here is that TRFC can’t afford/don’t want to afford the compensation to go through with this in the formal manner laid out in DM’s contract for this express purpose. That’s why it’s panning out like this.  Disgraceful piece of work by the SMSM.


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Valid point Steviebc, you have to wonder who is actually advising him?  Could it be that he has to look under the bonnet to achieve close out whether he goes or not? Looking in at how he has dealt with the business of football at Pittodrie I find it hard to believe that he can engage at all with the spivs at ibrox.  Still, disastrous career moves are not unusual in football although usually the risk taker can count on a mega pay off when it all goes pear shaped c.f. multiple scots to the championship in England.  
As for “Whatever happens: nobody is coming out of this debacle with any dignity.”  Maybye not but I do hope that AFC go about recruiting a replacement in a reasonable manner and that he will at least be able to hold his head up. You have to hand it to the spivs at ibrox;  they are indiscriminate in whom they shaft.


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