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Oliver Burke scores on debut…but rival fans are protesting against the way the club (or is it a company)
are ‘funded’…financial doping !?!?M
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Another world record for Sevco ?
(A Home tie in a ‘cup’ game . . . have Sevco ever had an away game
since their 1st ever (birth) game Brechin -v- Sevco (not sure if it was Sevco5088 or SevcoScotland)
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RMCGEDDAWNAUGUST 6, 2016 at 12:55
Anyone help with further questions for the SFM Scottish football quiz?
1. Name the only footballer to have played for all three Old Firm Clubs?2. Which two major Scottish clubs were never ever relegated from the top division?
1 – Kenny Miller has played for Rangers FC, Celtic FC and The Rangers FC
2 – Celtic FC and Rangers FC* have never been relegated (* before going bust and into Liquidation)
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UPTHEHOOPSAUGUST 3, 2016 at 10:15 3 1 Rate This
Attachment Dave King Oldco
Re Tom English and his recent Tweets. Someone just posted this to him, stating they are happy to acknowledge Rangers as the same club as long as King follows up on this vow. To be fair to English he agrees with the poster it is a fair point.
The point is Tom English is happy to ‘agree’ with people who provide such evidence on Twitter.
what he is not willing to do, is agree with like minded callers on radio shows
nor is he willing to state in print (newspaper columns) that Sevco and Rangers are two seperate clubs and that Sevco is a new club.
he is a coward who doesn’t want to end up like Brittny!
ALLYJAMBOAPRIL 26, 2016 at 14:35
Bryce9A has apparently tried to respond to my earlier post but is unable to get past moderation. I’ve tried to copy what he wrote over from twitter, but due to my poor twitter skills, I’ve been unable to do so. I welcome his response as it gives the opportunity for further discussion and examination of the point raised.
He claims that I am completely wrong and gives his reasoning as UEFA licenses only last one year and that the license is not carried over with a new one issued each season. He does, of course, ignore the fact that Rangers Football Club’s taxes are still very much outstanding, and that any fresh application would, in any proper process, take that into consideration. Had RFC somehow not gone into liquidation in 2012, but the outstanding taxes still remained, then they would not have been granted a license for season 2012-2013. Or 2013-2014 and so on until the taxes were settled.
I’d like to point out that the longer taxes go unpaid, the greater the offence becomes, not the other way around!
Of course, it is Rangers we are discussing, and perhaps he thinks the Bryson ruling will take effect here, and UEFA will say, ‘we didn’t notice it (it was hidden from us) at the time, so it’s all ok then’!
He also tries to introduce the ‘club separate from the company idea’, without actually saying it, by suggesting it would be wrong to attach the liabilities of RFC to those of TRFC. As I, perhaps clumsily, tried to say in my second post on the subject; even if UEFA did accept this ‘separation’ then their rules regarding outstanding social taxes (and so all debt) would become unenforceable because clubs could get round them by changing ‘vehicles’ whenever required, even when liquidation was not an issue. The only way to ensure this couldn’t happen would be to ensure the responsibility for taxes (and all debts) was firmly attached to the ‘club’. UEFA, of course, don’t have to make this clear within their rules as they do not consider the club and company to be separate entities.
I, at no time, suggested that TRFC will be denied entry to European competition due to RFC’s outstanding taxes, I only put forward that no club with outstanding taxes can play in Europe, and Rangers FC’s taxes still remain outstanding, so no club that plays in Europe can be Rangers FC, 1872.
Very well written and and point made, the crux of the (upcoming) matter ?!
John Clark Meets “The SFA”
EdinMan @ 5.17
Charles Green bought the assets using his company – SevcoScotland, who had no football business or licence.
The Club was ‘incorporated’ many years ago, so there was no club, it was a business (major loss making one).
Charles Green then had to apply for a football licence, which the SFA would not give him as his business was
a new start up with no trading history and no experience of running a football business.
A few weeks later, when funding was ‘assured’ by SevcoScotland, then SevcoScotland changed their name
to The Rangers Football Club LTD.
The Rangers Football Club PLC at that point, were allowed to change it’s name to RFC(2012)PLC, to HIDE the fact
that it WAS RANGERS as everyone had known Rangers to be.
Sevco via the 5way Agreement, were then able to obtain a ‘conditional’ licence, which is not written in the SFA rules and no other ‘team’ ‘club’ has ever been issued with such a licence and at that time, both SevcoScotland through the ‘conditional’ licence and Rangers Football Club PLC with their FULL SFA membership/licence, were BOTH in existance at the same time !!!!!???
one big con by the SFA to pretend nothing major happened in football terms, which allowed lots of debts to be
Legally ditched/avoided and allow the blue pound to influence the SFA coffers (and not the game in general).
your assertions regarding the use of the name Rangers did not apply, as this law only applies, if it is clearly the same Directors doing the debt ditching in order to ‘Phoenix’, and as Charles Green was the Owner/Director of the
assets who started up the new company, then the name ‘issue’ did not apply as he wasn’t phoenixing, he was genuinely starting not only one new company but two
The Rangers Football Company LTD
Rangers International Football Company PLC
which are both totally unconnected to Rangers Football Club PLC now RFC(2012)PLC
I and many others would accept that
TRFC LTD and/or RIFC PLC was the same ‘Club’ as Rangers Football Club PLC now RFC(2012)PLC
Was/is the same ‘Club’ – if all the outstanding debts were paid, but they have not and will not, so