It Takes Two to Tangle

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Jean7brodie says: June 27, 2014 at 11:38 pm John Clark says: June 27, …

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jean7brodie says:
June 27, 2014 at 11:38 pm

John Clark says:
June 27, 2014 at 10:49 pm
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Count me in, I’ll contribute what I can.

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Appropriate use of funds.
Happy to pledge and contribute the equivalent cost of an SPL match attendance towards such a venture.

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RyanGosling says:
July 3, 2014 at 7:08 pm

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Resin lab dog,

The primary explanation I’d say missed off your list was the abuse of the position of power, which was the first thing I thought of on reading your first post and in that context I thought it was a fair analogy, while recognising the distaste put forth by others.

I forget the full detail of your first post but I still wear the blue jersey and am still a decent person. It is possible to wear the shirt with pride while still being all too aware of the shortcomings associated with it. There has been much less pride in recent years, it goes without saying.

Bailmeanach – pretty much with regards to securitisation. Almost any stream of income can be securitised, depending on investor appetite, including things such as credit card debt, car loans and, almost exclusively with regards to UK financial institutions, residential mortgages.

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No question that there are a great many decent fans like you out there like you Ryan, and I wish you luck.
But it must be utterly galling the way every time your club seems to start to make progress toward a rehabilitation and decent behavior, that elements of the old ‘Rangersness’ pop up out of the woodwork and throw sand into the gear box of progress.
It is those elements to whom my comment is directed. STILL they persist.
I think frustration is the appropriate response towards them.
I think it is telling that Hearts weren’t subject to such machinations during their troubled times, and I believe this fact was no small factor in the outcome they secured.


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gherrybhoy57 says:
July 3, 2014 at 2:30 am
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The level of duplicity employed, the depth of the cover up, the complicity of those in authority not to investigate, the fan disappointment fan, the getting away with it for many many years, and the establishment covering the backs of those it views as its ‘own’ without a thought for the victims.
These are the common elements that make the analogy too apt to ignore I am afraid.
In no way does such a comparison demean or belittle the victims. It was the guilty parties alone that did that.
These elements make the comparison appropriate.
This is what makes the comparison relevent.


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Cluster One says:
July 2, 2014 at 10:15 pm

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Should the Club suffer a substantial decrease in season ticket income in the next two months then it would be unable to trade in the short term without seeking additional external funding as previously disclosed in the RIFC December 2013 interim results.
(From the Business Review and Strategic Plan Update)

Phil MacGiollaBhain @Pmacgiollabhain · 19m
Deloittes are being very clear to RIFC (thru the NOMAD) that the Season Ticket money is currently off limits.

Phil MacGiollaBhain @Pmacgiollabhain · 9m
Deloittes saying (Thru the NOMAD) that until there is workable business plan for the next twelve months the ST monies are off limits.

Now with a substantial decrease in season ticket income and this news from Phil.
Who will they seek additional external funding from?

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– we have a company trying to offload assets (players) to pay its bills. (decent behavior)
– we have ‘Rangers men’ scotching the deals thereby preventing them from doing so. (crooked)
– we have onerous constracts negotiated by spivs crippling a footballing business (crooked)
– we have ‘rangers men’ offering below value for pubicly traded shares. (crooked)

Tell me – where are the crooks now?
If RIFC aren’t able to access SB cash, then the inability of RIFC to offload Ally’s overpriced bloat signings becomes crippling.
Was that McCoist’s job???
– Sink the ship so that ‘real rangers men’ could harvest the wreck, perhaps?

Who decent would wear a blue shirt now???? Crooks, Liars, and cheats. Only dodgly patronage and dog whistling at boggits keeps them remotely relevent now.

Q.When did a club in blue from Ibrox last add anything meaningful to the game?

Sorry Ryan, I really feel for you – but enough is enough. Your team are now beyond a joke! They are past funny, through painful, beyond tragic and into ‘pathetic’ territory.

TRFC have become the ‘Rolf Harris’ of Scottish football. (With RFC(IL) as Jimmy Saville, obviously)

History you say?
Aye right!


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The Offline Game
Here’s why the TOG report should desperately concern every fan of Scottish football. Here is why this is not some Celtic obsession.Let’s (for the sake of argument) leave the events of 2012 behind us and all move on together arm in arm with a spirit of cameraderie and good natured competition, come one, come all, TRFC fans and allcomers… hail fellows well met…Wind forward a few months to April 2017. Its been a mixed season on the park for TRFC and a very bad one off it. Legal bills, unforeseen costs and some straw breaks teh camel back. Another insolvency looms, but the board so thi scoming and a CVA looks possible this time.o among us has any confidence that our administrators would act without fear or favourIt could happen. But… oops… an insolvency means a points deduction. And a points deduction might mean relegation. Who upon reading  the TOG report could have any confidence that our adminsitrators would not intervene unfairly to prevent such an occurrence?Who among us (CFC fans probably excepted by virtue of league strength) can be sure that it would not be our club – who played by the rules that should apply equally to all –  that was unfairly relegated instead? Why would I turn up for an alleged sporting contest where this very possibility was even countenanced?Not I!


The Offline Game
Good stuff!
I’m still catching up after an enforced absence due to family circumstances, but glad to be able to get back to this.
And so – in summary – where do we find ourselves today?
Well to buy a ST – or even a match ticket, or not? That is the salient question.
And the answer is – for me – overwhelmingly : Not.

And Why?

The game is conspicuously rigged. And rigged by the very people who were charged with keeping it honest.

And we are being kept in ignorance of this fact.

And Kept in ignorance by the actions of the very people who should be charged with keeping us informed.

Its all gone a bit North Korea in Scottish football.

So its perhaps not surprising that fans like me will be ‘heading South’ so to speak.

Shame. There’s alot to like about ICTFC.
If they could only find an honest league to play in, things would be rosy indeed!


Whose assets are they anyway?
There is a way forward. 
A new rangers logo. 
We
An rfc crest 
Cheated. (Sorry) 
That would circumvent the mash ip issue, reconcile Scottish football. 
It’s not the desire to punish former rfc fans (hail fellow John james, well met) that motivates me. There but for the grace of God and all that. No time for the knuckle draggers. But without a blatant nod in the direction of the cheating that was tolerated hitherto, games a bogey for all of us. We are here to compete against ranjurs. On a level playing field. We lose fair and square so be it. But when you tilt the park until you are sure to win, as you did for a decade, be sure to keep your nadgers out of range! We are not kicking you when you are down. We are pulling you by your exposed scrotum back into the real world from a mental illness that had consumed you and hurt us. The appropriate response is gratitude. Hint.


The Case for a New SFA.
Viz top tip:
Are you a Scottish sports journalist or fan of Ibrox club struggling to understand the meaning of the word “liquidation”? 
Simply Google ” Redcar steelworks”.
Then grow a pair. 
And stop insulting the intelligence of everyone else in the world and spare a thought for some genuine victims who were not the architects of their own downfall. 
#dignity


The Case for a New SFA.
EPL pricing out fans.
It Will not end well.
Economics 101
…poof! 
Addicted die hard fans are already deserting the Bollinger of Stamford bridge for the Buckie of lower league outfits. Have you seen the price of an EPL season ticket?
And all it takes is one EU or TTIP legal challenge and TV money is vapour! 
And what does that leave?
Unpaid bills and dishonoured contracts. 


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