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We’re in another premeditated programme of fan misinformation, corralling, kettling, …

Comment on Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey by Finloch.

We’re in another premeditated programme of fan misinformation, corralling, kettling, and blind-sighting.

Where necessary we’ll see delaying tactics to protect the football business in Scotland from the feared outfall that might erupt if there was indeed an honest review of what happened at SDM’s club and on the decisions made by the SFA and SPL in 2011-2012 in their blind panic to move on.

They all know the fans want an honest review.

They also all know we don’t believe that can or will happen by anything undertaken the self protecting SFA and SPFL.

So we are currently being nagumbied that the SPL has been taking legal advice, that an announcement will be made tomorrow, and according to Ms Budge that it has been “Thoroughly looked at” and that not all fans will be happy.
In PR Made Simple text book fashion they have also already leaked most or all of what they are going to say tomorrow to soften us up until they tell us they can’t do anything.

As I write this Phil on BBC Shortbread is bombarding me with his take on the “facts” that they have taken very high level advice now and before with Nimmo Smith so they must have the weight of the law in justifying doing nothing, much.

Its just another confirmation of how our club chairmen and their two trade associations see and indeed treat their stakeholders, us the fans.

So here is an open message to them all.

Ms Budge, et al (in both the SFA and ESPL) 

This will not go away until it is revisited properly and honestly.

By an independent review.

A real independent review – not a Regan and Doncaster charade.

  

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Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey
The more people like Topping say the worse they make it for themselves.

Ms Budge may just want to look at the future.
I understand that with her shiny new stand but the foundations she seems happy to rest it on are cancerous. 
And implosive.
Just think what a principalled Budge Resignation would do for Scottish Football.

That would be a really smart move and the right thing for all fans.

I’d go further and suggest it would be Hearts finest political move since the team embarrassed the then Establishment when they signed en masse with a few others from the game for what we now know as Macrae’s Battallion.


Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey
No surprises today.
The SPFL briefed counsel and probably told him what they wanted to be told in his report.
He did what lawyers do and gave them what they asked for.
We live in a world where lawyers challenge lawyers every day using clever counsel in court rooms.
Counsel often disagrees. Its how they earn big salaries by using big words and confusing everyone.

Judges sometimes make decisions in courts that change on appeal.

Just because one “internal” SPFL recruited and briefed counsel says something does not mean it to be anything more than his paid for and quite possibly slanted and biased opinion.

I personally wouldn’t trust any of the SPFL/SFA/Chairmen in a situation where we know they don’t want to revisit their own 5 Way Agreement and related decisions made in 2011 and 2012.
Its too messy and they have all moved on.

So today they have collectively called our bluff vis a vis some kid of crown funded initiative.

I’m up for that and know well respected others are looking at that right now.

In the meantime here is some wisdom from others on the murk that is Law from a 2 minute search on the internet.

Lawyers are just like physicians: what one says, the other contradicts.
— Sholom Aleichem
 
LAWYER: A professional advocate hired to bend the law on behalf of a paying client. 
— The Cynic’s Dictionary; http://www.amz.com/cynic; published by William Morrow, © Rick Bayan.
 

Imagine the appeals, dissents and remandments, if lawyers had written ‘The Ten Commandments’.
— Harry Bender


Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey
A viral video made by the SFSA.
I love the sponsor board and think they are tapping into a rich vein.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7bC2s-VxzY


Recent Comments by Finloch

It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
I heard today that Craig Graham  the Spartans chairman is awarded an MBE in the New Year Honours list. 
I’m pleased for Craig and Spartans. 
Craig took a Corinthian and undisciplined club going nowhere fast, rooted it into a previously ignored community and has achieved some incredible health and social goals deep into that community using football as glue.
other clubs are now slowly learning from his vision and Scottish football is better for what he has done  
Yes he could have been and should have been knighted

but to paraphrase our old pal Red Lichtie
Scottish Football needs more Craig Graham’s. 


It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
WOTTPI
DECEMBER 20, 2017 at 09:04Given all the recent conjecture re PSC and potential new loans, I am still wondering what exactly it is that King is getting out of his involvement in T’Rangers.
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Some maybes…

Its a legitimate business with amazing annual revenue generation capacity and a very committed customer base and friends on high.

It was a unique opportunity to talk down a share price to the disadvantage of some mug punters and to get significant control level shareholding quite cheaply. 

With an inside well-coiffeured friend in situ he had access to knowledge most people wouldn’t have access to.

There are various sub companies in the group where personal unseen revenue streams might be forthcoming.

It might even be a good way to repatriate monies from South Africa or maybe elsewhere into the UK or indeed somewhere else.

Chairman of an establishment club is also a nice position to have if you have an ego that needs constant tending and you know that no media outlet will ever look at what is really happening under the bonnet. 

Maybe there is also an opportunity to take advantage of some other directorial shareholders, who may be real Rangers men, but are just not be as incisive with the particulars skills G&SL seems to have built his wealth upon.

And finally if there is a sort of nod and wink understanding in certain quarters that when the time is right that SDM and a new consortium will come to the rescue then the shares will be worth having.

Or control of a situation that needs Blair Nimmo or Bryan Jackson called in?
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But what do I know anyway?


It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
John Clark – Have you been tapped up?


Fans for Judicial Review – Counsel Opinion
A few initial thoughts on the counsels view that “There is not a case in law to force the SFA to comply”.

i.e. The SFA has the right not to have a review because there is no precedent.

(I wish Paul McConville was still with us).

Firstly there may be no precedent and yes in law that makes it difficult but surely there must always be a first to make a precedent.

Could this be a first?

Then two thoughts are about following the money because that may also be a route that offers traction.

As someone who paid money to watch the game over the period do I personally and or jointly with other fans who similarly paid have the right to take action either against my club or the SFA?

Are there precedents here?

And on a larger scale if our government have provided funds in any way during the period do we as fans have the right to take action against the government or the government the right to take action against the SFA?

There will almost certainly be precedents here because Government money always comes with built-in controls and conditions attatched.

And looking forward will the Scottish Government ever agree to be seen to provide future funds to an organisation which has highly questionable internal and no external controls?


Who Is Conning Whom?
So the Derek McInnes “Tapping by Media” project failed well after the 11th hour when the media had told us he was already choosing curtains in Glasgow.
The Ibrox club and their fans were convinced by their chairman’s statement last week at the AGM and the media barrage too and last night were in shock and caught napping – hence the stupid press statement and attempt to make it known to us all that they didn’t really want him anyway and were just having a concomitant kick at the McInnes/Docherty tyres.

However that isn’t all that happened yesterday.

There was a wee meeting at Hampden called “The SFA Congress and Convention”.

Its a kind of series of regular very important meetings where everyone who is valued in football gets invited to see what a great job Stewart Regan and the SFA are undertaking on our behalf. 
And let me say that there is no doubt that some of what The Congress seeks to do and does will indeed be for the good but we the fans wouldn’t know it because we were not invited.
This is a paragraph from this weeks SFSA (Scottish Football Supporters Association) newsletter that I received having filled in their recent survey on Scottish Football.
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The SFA Convention this ThursdayOn Thursday, member clubs will gather at Hampden for the 2017 Scottish FA convention to share best practice, discuss current trends and participate in workshops geared towards improving the game: scotfa.co/convention17  according to their publicity on social media. Sadly the SFA has failed to invite any representative from Scotland’s only national fans organisation, the SFSA. We had anticipated that given the huge amount of unpaid work that we do for fans and clubs and being Scotland’s representatives at the Football Supporters Europe network our presence might have been merited. Despite claiming it has invited the “football family” the SFA have missed yet another opportunity to engage properly with ordinary football supporters. Could it possibly be related to the independent academic research that we organised last month that dared to criticise the governance of the game or maybe the invite was just lost in the post?
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The failure to engage with fans is nonsense.

SFSA’s recent research asked some real questions from over 16000 bona fide Scottish fans. This was an incredible response that provided an incredible insight into what we the fans really think.
I know that Supporters Direct Scotland who are funded by the SFA were there as valued guests but SFSA who have people like Henry McLeish (of the report) and Cathy Jamieson (of Bernard son) on their board were not even invited.

Given that economic analysis of revenue generation confirms that in Scotland the real stakeholders and economic generators are us the fans
We are the people (Sic) who pay for season books and buy merchandise and pies and fund the clubs and their wages.
The people who get to see English Internationals on council telly but not our own country’s.
The people whose game seems to only have Betting Company Sponsors.
The people whose administrators cannot organise things like properly numbered balls in their top cup competitions so that there are two Brora Rangers in some draws!

Why were the SFSA not invited as valued members and contributors to your Congress Stewart?

Are the real fans and their views such a threat to your Congress and Convention?

Is there a danger they might ask questions that don’t fit with your pre determined script?

And a wee hint to the SMSM
Isn’t there a story in this?


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