Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey


Quotes from Ralph Topping in today’s Herald. Where do you …

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Quotes from Ralph Topping in today’s Herald. Where do you start with this?

RALPH Topping, the outgoing SPFL chairman, last night called on the SFA to cooperate fully with an independent review into how Scottish football’s authorities dealt with the Rangers crisis.
The SPFL yesterday announced they had no legal power to punish the Ibrox club further for their use of Employee Benefit Trusts despite the Supreme Court ruling in favour of HMRC in the Big Tax Case earlier this month.
The governing body released a lengthy document outlining the advice they had received from Gerry Moynihan QC and called for a review into how Scottish football handled the issues arising out of the affair.
Topping believes the SFA must follow the SPFL’s lead and embrace a wide-reaching investigation into how they acted and the rules and regulations that are in place.
“If we are going to have a successful review we need our SFA colleagues to aid that process,” he said. “I would be very surprised if there was not a demand for that from the press, public and football clubs.
“If they don’t that’s their decision. I think they would find it hard to have Aunt Harriet approach and sweep it under the carpet or stonewall it. We don’t want Aunt Harriet to have her way.”
Topping added: “Who now sits on the review body? There is a lot of work to be done in that area. We need to work with the SFA on that. That is an absolute imperative.
“There are a lot of good people along at the SFA. There is not one single person in Scottish football who set out to bring about an outcome that suited them.
“We all need to go through that process of scrutiny. I am happy to go through it. The board of the SPFL are happy to go through it. I think everybody in Scottish football should have their opportunity to have their say and the review body report on it.
“I am satisfied that we have gone through the legal process and we have done the responsible thing in terms of getting wiser minds than I’ve got to look at it from a legal perspective. We have taken that advice and we have acted on it.
“People can be critical all they want, but we haven’t set out in anything other than in a sincere fashion to try and do the right thing. If I haven’t or the body hasn’t then it’s a fair criticism.”

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PATMATTAUGUST 5, 2017 at 20:28   
Sorry Cluster One. Neil Doncaster is not one of my heroes but, to be fair he was at Celtic Park today. I was a guest at the Boardroom there this afternoon and he was there, large as life. He did not help to raise the Champion’s Flag and I don’t think that he would have been welcomed to do so.


If it was up me I would not allow Doncaster or Regan into Celtic Park unless it was an event where the club is contractually obliged. As far as I am concerned both those men think Rangers cheating on tax to the disadvantage of other clubs is okay.  I saw Regan on Twitter congratulating Celtic on beating Rosenberg. Hollow and meaningless words. If they genuinely want football to move on then they must recognise it is not possible with them in charge. 

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EASYJAMBOAUGUST 1, 2017 at 20:37 =====================

If the SFA do have a review then a JR could be put on the back burner until it is over, or could a Judge say no to any JR at all based on the SFA agreeing to the SPFL request to have a review?

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Re Ian Cathro. Who knows whether he would ever have made it given more time but after the weekend it was unlikely Hearts were going to risk a poor start to the league season. 

How he was treated by the Scottish media is far more worthy of debate. I recall him being spoken of highly from his time with Dundee Utd, and while with Valencia. BBC even flew a reporter to Spain to get an interview. However, let’s not forget he was linked with a job at Ibrox at the time.  One of his most vociferous critics was Kris Boyd, a man who has achieved nothing in coaching himself, but who has many friends and much respect in the media due to a past association. He was not Cathro’s only critic of course but he highlighted the problem of Cathro not being in the gang, and not having previous associations that buy you time and many friends.  The Hearts job is one of the biggest in the Scottish game. I’m sure jealousy also played a big part in the media savaging this young man received before he had even started the job in earnest. 

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ALLYJAMBOJANUARY 2, 2018 at 11:07

Wow! I know we are not meant to put much store on the thumbs up or down, but two people have given thumbs down to this post! Who on earth could find fault with a post respecting the dead from the Ibrox disaster?


A bit puzzled at the thumbs down myself A.J, but there’s nowt queerer than folk as they say!

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On this day in 1971, the Ibrox disaster happened during a Rangers v Celtic game at Ibrox. 66 fans died in a crush. Some of us remember that day, some of us may even have been there, while some of us would not even be on this earth at the time. 

We are all football fans. Nobody should go to a football match and never return home. Rest in Peace.

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CLUSTER ONEJANUARY 1, 2018 at 19:27

“If they move out of Hampden, the SFA are in danger of leaving themselves hostages to Rangers and Celtic,” said Queen’s Park president Alan Hutchison.


I am a Celtic shareholder and if it was up to me (which it is not), I would tell the SFA here and now that Celtic Park is unavailable for any future fixture.  However I know that will not happen, but I doubt there is anything they could do to force Celtic to allow them use of the stadium.  

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ALLYJAMBOJANUARY 1, 2018 at 12:18

I see, too, that PMGB is issuing challenges, in two posts, to the Ibrox based boards to issue denials of what he is telling us.


I see it is alleged £800k is owed to suppliers. In my view unless any of it is due to a financial behemoth such as one of the big six energy suppliers, then we are unlikely to see any winding up requests heading towards court. It simply wouldn’t be worth the risk for any small supplier in Scotland to do that. Having said that I find it remarkable anyone is willing to extend them any sort of credit at all, or are they worried about the bully boys on that score as well?

I’m sure the SFA will want to satisfy themselves all is well though. I am also sure a herd of pink elephants takes off from Glasgow Airport at 20:00hrs tonight with the moon as their destination.

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Phil McG alleging a surveyor has recently visited Rangers training ground to attain a valuation, and that King has also approached a non-Uk Finance House. As Phil says this may well be King raising funds to make a share offer, but IMO it could be to raise working capital too. 

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