Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey

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UPTHEHOOPS JULY 27, 2017 at 08:00   Quotes from Ralph Topping in today’s Herald. …

Comment on Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey by goosygoosy.

UPTHEHOOPS
JULY 27, 2017 at 08:00
 
Quotes from Ralph Topping in today’s Herald. Where do you start with this?
 
“There are a lot of good people along at the SFA. There is not one single person in Scottish football who set out to bring about an outcome that suited them.
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Two consecutive lies in consecutive sentences

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Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey
BIG PINK
JULY 28, 2017 at 11:42
 
I really think that the SFSA could – and should – grasp an opportunity like the SPFL statement to assume a moral leadership of fans of Scottish football. I’m not sure what it is they hope to provide in terms of moral authority if they are not fearless enough to address directly the biggest and still evolving scandal the game has seen. I am hoping that like Celtic, they are taking time to respond. The question is, how can they ignore it?
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BP
IMO
Its not all that difficult
.At their next  Board meeting the current SFSA Board should vote on whether they are prepared to make upholding sporting integrity the prime goal of their Mission Statement. All other goals will be subservient to this aim. Key Performance Indicators should then be developed to measure whether the governing bodies are upholding integrity going forward. Regular reports should be emailed to members when, as we expect corruption continues to be manifest in mismanagement of current rules and the law of the land. However The SFSA should avoid public involvement  on any topic until they have a fully functioning  democratically elected Board comprised of Fan Directors.
The focus on integrity should   automatically make resolving corruption the number one goal for the immediate term. It would enable an umbrella coalition to be established  between the SFSA and  other groups solely responsible for pursuing the Judicial Review route. The idea would be that the SFSA address an d measure progress on long term implications of removing the elephant while the rest of the coalition get on with shoving it out the window
Steps should be taken immediately to introduce democracy to SFSA using as a voter roll the names of all those for whom they have email addresses. Groups claiming to represent many unnamed members should be charged with adding them to the email voters roll by a target cut off date. The election of Fan Shadow Directors to overlap with the current Board should proceed on a democratic basis shortly after the cut off date. Whether this is  by direct election or through some temporary representative body should be thought through and voted on by email.
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The views of the Celtic Board are no longer relevant
They had the opportunity to stand up and be counted .Instead they cooperated by their silence in a disgraceful, unethical and shameless strategy. Their focus now should be removing Bro Walfrids Statue from Celtic Park before it falls over in shame


Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey
AULDHEIDJULY 27, 2017 at 22:11
Goosey GooseyWhen there is 0% chance of opening the door, 20% is worth backing.
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Like I said
I`ve yet to meet the person with 80% integrity
Or put another way
I don`t trust people who have proven untrustworthy on an integrity issue on even one occasion 
Sometimes I have no choice but to put my fate in their hands 
Some worked out. Some didn`t work out
But because I had no choice I went along with it unwillingly
However
That wasn`t trust. It was Hobsons choice
When I have the choice not to trust them because there are other options 
I don`t trust them and go for an alternative
Having said that
Its a free country (apart from what we both agree on)
So
People may put their trust in SFAS using whatever criteria they deem most important 
For me when dealing with corruption there is zero room for compromise.
Its  an issue of integrity, right or wrong ,good or evil, black or white
I won`t  trust SFAS
So as I said before
I`m out


Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey
AULDHEIDJULY 27, 2017 at 21:32 goosygoosyJuly 27, 2017 at 20:38 (Edit)
Read my post about capacity building. Have you anything better to suggest be done in their place? Are you going to do the work those volunteers do or are you happy just to snoop and snipe?
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Auldheid
i have great respect for you and your track record in opposing corruption
I am too long in the tooth now to believe platitudes without checking the facts. I  am happy to contribute to a crowd funding initiative seeking a JR of the corruption associated with the recent past
I`m not snowed either by face to face meetings with people who have proven they lack integrity.
Thats a virtue you either have or you don`t have

I`ve yet to meet the person with 80% integrity
So as far as SFAS are concerned
I`m out


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Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
 
STEVIEBC
JULY 19, 2017 at 15:46
GOOSYGOOSY JULY 19, 2017 at 00:01  … There is a corrupt plan already in existence supported by ALL the current corrupt members of the corrupt SPFL Board The primary aim of this plan is to minimise attacks on the integrity ( no laughing) of those corrupt Directors prepared to remain in post after the corrupt SPFL  releases its corrupt Statement. The upcoming corrupt announcement will exonerate 14 yrs. of cheating by a dead member club. Indeed the very non existence of this cheat proves that the long term fear and intimidation orchestrated by its Loony element still haunts Hampden and was a major factor driving the corruption. A secondary aim will be to support Celtic in its hypocritical pretence that it has “misgivings” about the corrupt statement and would be “inclined” to oppose it. The Plan? IMO Stage 1———- Prior to the date of the corrupt Statement the current Celtic nominee to the corrupt SPFL Board  will resign. No Celtic replacement will be announced prior to the date of the corrupt Statement. Concurrently, selected corrupt SMSM lap dogs will be privately briefed (not by Celtic of course) that Celtic are “outraged” at the corrupt Statement when in reality they are 100% behind it.
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Yes, with CFC being the only club so far to put its head above the parapet – re: the statement issued following the SC judgement – the club has very deliberately chosen to place itself in this position.
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DR online 17.35pm 19 July 2017
Rangers on verge of place on SPFL board as Celtic chief Peter Lawwell decides against standing for re-election
 
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Corrupt PL getting out ahead of corrupt SPFL Statement. He is walking away at our time of greatest need
Positive proof
The guy has just confirmed he supports corruption 
Integrity and decency have no place in his mindset
Fancy thinking the average football fan can`t see through what he is doing ?
He is treating all Scottish fans with contempt
And treating Celtic fans like dirt
I hope the CFC board fire him for this
Bro Walfrid must be turning in his grave


Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
 
I`ll stand corrected if I`m wrong
But
IMO
There is a corrupt plan already in existence supported by ALL the current corrupt members of the corrupt SPFL Board
The primary aim of this plan is to minimise attacks on the integrity ( no laughing) of those corrupt Directors prepared to remain in post after the corrupt SPFL  releases its corrupt Statement. The upcoming corrupt announcement will exonerate 14 yrs. of cheating by a dead member club. Indeed the very non existence of this cheat proves that the long term fear and intimidation orchestrated by its Loony element still haunts Hampden and was a major factor driving the corruption.
A secondary aim will be to support Celtic in its hypocritical pretence that it has “misgivings” about the corrupt statement and would be “inclined” to oppose it.
The Plan?
IMO
Stage 1———- Prior to the date of the corrupt Statement the current Celtic nominee to the corrupt SPFL Board  will resign. No Celtic replacement will be announced prior to the date of the corrupt Statement. Concurrently, selected corrupt SMSM lap dogs will be privately briefed (not by Celtic of course) that Celtic are “outraged” at the corrupt Statement when in reality they are 100% behind it.
Stage2———–One or more of the other corrupt SPFL Board members  will make  their fan organisations aware that they will be (or were) unable to attend or “influence” the crucial meeting arranged to finalise the corrupt Statement. They will also feign “outrage” when in reality they are simply following the instructions of their Club Board.The average fan will be left bewildered at how the SPFL achieved a majority vote supporting its corrupt Statement
Stage 3———–The corrupt SFA/SPFL will provide the  corrupt SMSM with a barrage of squirrels to unleash across Scottish football. All of them aimed at providing alternative issues to fill column  inches in the corrupt gutter press and hopefully smother the Statement furore which ensues.
Stage 4———–Irrespective of reality there will be an increase in favourable press coverage on the initial games played by those Clubs who have leaked their feigned “outrage” at the  corrupt SPFL Statement. If necessary some of these Clubs may  get  unexpected helping hands from Referees if they find themselves in difficulties against traditional underdogs. This favouritism will run its course up to but excluding the TRFC v Celtic match at Ibrox in late September. When that match is over it will provide a useful counterbalance to any accusations of bias in favour of TRFC
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Fanciful ?
Ask yourself the question
What would you do if you have no integrity, controlled Referees, were contemptuous of most football fans and intimidated by the sizeable number of Loonies attached to one Club?
As  I said
 I`ll stand corrected if I`m wrong


Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
The Road Ahead
The RTC Blog went through a lengthy period to establish its credentials. It then became the go to site for discussing corrupt activities being ignored by the MSM. These  involved  RFC plc and our football  governing bodies.
When its assertions were ultimately proved correct and RFC plc went into liquidation, RTC wisely chose to end the blog. Its purpose was achieved. A corrupt club supported by a corrupt SMSM and corrupt governing authorities died a just death.
SFM was created as a successor to RTC. It gained momentum from a  groundswell of opposition by ordinary fans.It opposed corrupt behaviour by the SPL, SPFL and SFA as it dealt with the new club, Sevco Scotland founded in May 2012 to exploit the assets of RFC in liquidation
Concurrently, SFM aimed to become more representative of all fans by widening the topics discussed and  sharing views on other controversial  issues.
 When SFM was created nobody thought for a minute that it would have to confront the unique fantasy of a dead club being called a living club and 50k sane people  swallowing such nonsense. Nor was it anticipated that every Scottish newspaper would somersault 180 degrees on what they had witnessed and reported in front page headlines in May 2012. Nobody believed either that it would take 5 yrs. for an open and shut tax case to be finally put to bed when the result was so glaringly obvious in 2012.
However
It happened
So
How does May 2012 compare with July 2017? 
It is plain that the cancer in our governing bodies has increased not decreased. Corruption is now so endemic that something much greater than online exposure and condemnation is required. Action is needed to inform and mobile some sort of crowd action.
IMO
We are on the cusp of the most blatantly corrupt Statement ever issued by our Football Authorities since the game was founded in the 19th century.
And we are quite likely to see a united front supporting corruption by all members of the SPFL Board
If
The SPFL ,without Board resignations issue a corrupt statement declaring they will do nothing about correcting titles won through cheating by RFC plc
Then
This SFM blog is at a crossroads
Trying to fight corruption with words will have failed to persuade even one club to come out for sporting integrity.
So where do we go from there?
IMO
Either
SFM prioritise rooting out corruption above every other topic and become in effect a single issue blog in support of mass action on various fronts
Or
SFM give up debating corruption and simply continue as a discussion forum for football matters of common interest.
That’s where I think we are.


Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
WOTTPI
JULY 17, 2017 at 11:24
 
 Guys like Topping have nothing to lose from issuing a Turnbull Hutton type statement telling it how it is.
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The guy doesn`t know that he doesn`t know
 
Or put another way
When you don`t have integrity you don`t know you have anything to lose


Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
Given the majority sectarian singing and minority bottle throwing  behaviour by  Linfield fans on Friday night,  surely  Celtic have a legitimate reason to refund their tickets and simply exclude all travelling support from the return leg at Parkhead?


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