Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey


BluJuly 27, 2017 at 13:19 ‘….There might be a chance of …

Comment on Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey by John Clark.

bluJuly 27, 2017 at 13:19
‘….There might be a chance of peace breaking out if TRFC either:1. Publicly renounced any claim to any trophies awarded to RFC2. Acknowledged that RFC was awarded trophies it shouldn’t have been because it didn’t comply with the rules of the SPL/SFL and SFA and that TRFC would not wish to lay claim to that tainted part of RFC’s history.’
blu, Smugas 9July 27, 2017 at 13:27) makes the critical point that “..we’re being unashamedly asked to believe that the only thing that does stick to a (C)lub is titles and everything else can be miraculously shed .
The Football Authorities in defiance of commercial law and practice,football rules application, and plain common sense elected to create  and foster the myth that Rangers FC ( incorporated in 1899) was sold out of Administration, and all that happened was that, just as Craig Whyte had done , Charles Green had become just the new owner, and the club had merrily carried on.
This is so blatantly NOT the case.
When Rangers 1899 was incorporated, there was no parallel club incorporated as its ‘holding company’
One club/company went into Administration,  the directors/owner of that club lost any control of it under the law, and the Administrators ( currently being taken through the Court of Session for alleged breaches of their fiduciary duties as Administrators)  sold off the assets, and let the only entity that was there, the club,drop into Liquidation, where it still is.
Charles Green’s vehicle for the purchase, on 14 June 2012,of the assets, and NOT for ‘bringing the club out of Administration’, was SevcoScotland Ltd [leave aside Sevco 5088 Ltd!)
That company ( no.425159) was not a football club until it was admitted into the then SFL. (So little was it a football club that the Administrators had to be asked for permission to use players registered as players of the Rangers1899(IA) in their first game; while some players, their contracts annulled by Administration, were legally free to walk away, and did so) 
The  football authorities finally accepted SevcoScotland Ltd ( by now renamed The Rangers Football Club Ltd) keeping the same company number, 425159 as a new member club of the SFL, and therefore entitled to membership ( the vacant membership, not the ‘Rangers share’!)
Previously, on 16 November 2011, CG had set up another company, named Rangers Football plc.( 437060)
When he got hold of the assets of TRFC ltd, he sold shares in TRFC Ltd to a number of other investors, and worked with them in selling, in a one-for-one exchange , all the shares to Rangers Football plc( 437060) which, on 27 November 2011, changed its name to Rangers International Football Club plc and was the vehicle through which the IPO was issued ( and I recently pointed out the sneaky way the origins of Sevco Scotland were omitted from the Prospectus of that IPO)
The result of the share-exchange was that RIFC plc  became a holding company of TRFC Ltd.
It is not, any more than SevcoScotland was, the holding company of Rangers 1899, which, name changed to Rangers 2012 plc on 31 July 2012, was allowed to disappear into Liquidation.
Not until the Football Authorities acknowledge the truth, that TRFC Ltd is NOT the original Rangers of 1899 can there be any ‘peace’.
That they did not do so, and continue to refuse to do so,lies at the heart of their refusl to strip the UNMERITED titles from Rangers 1899, because they have deceitfully and deliberately, right from  the off, allowed TRFC LTD to claim to be Rangers 1899.
And the authorities are afraid to face up to the monster and monstrous situation they created.
Let them get back to the truthful basics and deal with the facts as they should have been dealt with, and integrity will be restored, whatever about ‘peace’!
It will not, could not possibly be, restored without getting back to the truth , acknowledging it and facing down those who bogusly ‘enjoy’ the fruits of a dead club’s honest paricipation in our game

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Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey
From the Herald online, trying to get us all excited and ‘moving on’ as some ( not named) hack waxes lyrical about the start of the League season:
“Anything is possible. Remember, this is Scottish fitba we are talking about.”
Yep,and  in Scottish Football we are talking about how a new club is  allowed to claim the honours of a liquidated club, and of how  years of coldly calculated cheating by SDM are to be swept under the carpet, and of the complicity  in that cheating ( at the very least retrospectively)  of the men who are supposed to’govern’ Scottish  Football,  both  by their failure to deal with it, and by the dirty wee 5-way agreement they made with an asset stripper.
All the burbling blather such as  “there would seem to be an inordinate amount of interest in this season’s Ladbrokes Premiership” cuts absoutely no ice when we KNOW that falsehood and cheating lie festering in the very heart and bowels of Scottish Football.
There is a cuckoo in the nest, and the game’s a bogey, whatever the honest endeavour of the player on any pitch.
Their masters were, and are, at it.

Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey
Cluster OneAugust 4, 2017 at 20:50
‘.. I will go down memory lane on youtube later’
I’ve just most enjoyably been down that lane , prompted by the memory of the phrase ‘tune in tomorrow’  in the clever song by Cole Porter “Well did you evah?” in the film ‘High Society’
“And have you heard the story of, A boy, a girl, unrequited love (Sounds like pure soap opera, tune in tomorrow) I May cry (What a swell party this is) ……”

Have a dekko at Crosby and Sinatra on this link


Looks like Crosby might have been aping the soap opera  that Jimbo refers to.

Grace Kelly at her ice-maiden best in that 1956 film, which I didn’t see until about 1963/64 ( as a 20 year old, although I was word and timing perfect in that particular song [in my own heid!]

And , in an attempt to kind of remain on topic, what a boon the internet is.

Every sodding statement   that any  ‘person of public interest’  utters can be dug out and thrown in their faces when they change their tune!

Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey
whiteseatbhoyAugust 3, 2017 at 08:12
‘…don’t load your rafters, they are designed to take the weight of the tiles/slates.On the floor of your loft you should be able to board over the joists where they sit over the wall below.’
Sorry, wsb,for what I’ve just noticed:not including you in my post thanking folk for their advice on the shelving matter.
My books have for years lain quite safely on my own ‘flooring’ in the attic ( e.g old wardrobe doors and ex-library shelves and such like laid over what my late and very dear brother-in-law ( a brickie by trade) called ‘the jeests’).
They are again lying safely ( and not at all damaged by damp, or cold, or vermin or bugs) on that flooring.
And Mrs C is sleeping soundly even as I write.19

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It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
My brother and I, auld men now that we are, meet occasionally for a pint or three.
We tend to pay homage to our late dad by visiting one of the pubs he used as a young man afore the war ( he lived in digs near Partick Cross) , or one of the pubs he used when we were kids during his working life at what  used to be Glasgow Corporation Tramways Parkhead depot,  or the pub he used in Tollcross in his retirement days.
So I feel for the patrons of what had been Annie Miller’s pub in Ropework lane.
If and when the new owners of the premises tart it up gaily as a feeder bar for their adjoining sauna, I expect that it will no longer be a ‘Rangers’ pub,a place of shared enjoyment of football memories and celebration of former days of glory.

Like the historic Rangers Football Club, Annie Miller’s is dead. Ceased trading in 2016. No longer exists as a ‘Rangers’ pub, any more than the Rangers Football Club of 1872 exists as a professional football club entitled to a place in Scottish Football.
That’s the reality.
There isn’t even a ‘Scottish Football Pubs Association’ prepared to create and propagate a lie  that ‘Annie Miller’s’ lives on, there have been no white or green knights/knaves rushing in to found ‘continuity Annie Miller’s’, no running-dog SMSM types betraying their avocation by propagating untruths…… convicted criminals begging, borrowing and making false promises about good times to come if only other folk will produce the readies…
Annie Miller’s is dead and gone.
Only a lie sustains TRFC Ltd.
And those who drank in Annie Miller’s know that.
And the evil men of the SMSM and the SFA know it, too.
May 2018 see them confounded, and their untruths exposed.

It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
FinlochDecember 30, 2017 at 20:42
‘…Craig took a Corinthian and undisciplined club going nowhere fast, rooted it into a previously ignored community and has achieved some incredible health and social goals deep into that community using football as glue.’
Beautifully expressed, Finloch.

Football as a glue of ‘community’

Of community trust,

of basic honesty,

of the  Corinthian spirit,

of sporting integrity….

and of all the virtues that the SFA has so spectacularly abandoned, in its determination to insist that Charles Green’s Sevcoscotland is entitled to call itself the Rangers of 1872

That such an incredibly monstrous perversion of truth of any kind, never mind sporting truth, is being, and has been for 5 years, propagated by our Football Governance body and supported by the SMSM is stark evidence of a deep, deep corruption at the heart of our sport, and, worse, at the very essence of our ‘free’ Press.

in this little country of ours.

It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
And since I’m talking to myself while all you guys and gals are snoring your heads off, can I just mention that in the local newspaper this morning there was a piece about school sports.

It seemed to be about the ‘pick’ of the best players.

I didn’t have time today to read the whole thing ( and it’s too late to disturb the household to go looking for the paper!) but it seemed to be related to the use by ‘soccer’ teams of the American  Football  concept of who gets to pick the best player in the ‘draft’.

I have only the haziest understanding of that concept.

But in so far as it might relate to attempts to create genuine ‘sporting’ , on-field, equality of talent, it must have something to recommend it.

Even the Americans realise that in order to make money out of sport,there has to be some concept of genuine ‘sporting competition’

Auldheid reminded us, quite movingly, of the joyous nature of our game as we all experienced it.
We all knew instinctively what was fair, and what wasn’t.
Remember how our street game teams were picked?

The two ‘captains’ tossed for first choice.Whichever won the toss would pick the ‘best’ player. The other guy would pick ‘the second best’ and so on.

And, if it appeared that there was an imbalance ,or if there was an odd number of players, then it would be agreed that a ‘John Clark’ would play the first half for one side to give them the extra man, and the second half for the other side, to try to be fair in the use of that useless lump!

( who, I may say, was actually quite good at lifting the wee ba’ from the street up onto the pavement, one hand on the lamp-post outside the Thomson’s house on Cuthelton Street, and bringing it to the goal at the lorry entrance to the Domestos depot ( formerly Donald Clarke’s steel kind of place, which in 1947 sirened One o’Clock,with the siren they used ‘during the war!’)

And it is these kinds of memories that fuel my contempt
contempt for the cheating bast.rd of a knight of the realm who killed the RFC of my day

contempt for the SFA who, like some referees,not only did not ‘see’ that cheating but went further and assisted in that cheating

And who continue to propagate the lie that the football club that cheated its way to death by Liquidation is somehow the same club as a five year old creation that they themselves have lied into existence.

And as for the the whole lot of the successive boards of either Sevco 5088, Sevcoscotland, The rangers football Club Ltd, RIFC plc  how can they be described otherwise than as  scavengers of carrion? Feeding as they do on the dead flesh of a once proud football club?

It gars me greet…
Quietly and solemnly, into my glass of “Goose IPA, 5.9%, made from hops from Idaho” ( And actually quite surprisingly pleasant, reminiscent of McEwan’s pale ale.

It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
It’s 11.43 pm in Scranton,PA,  and we have just come back from being wined and dined  in tremendously good company in a friends-of-the-son’s home.

I am therefore in a cheerful frame of mind. (Mind you, sitting in the back seat of the car I had one of those A9 moments of absolute fear, when the driver overtook another car on a blind bend, before I realised we were still on a dual carriageway!)….

For one reason or another, it suddenly strikes  me that I don’t actually know ( or remember) when it was that the concept of ‘transfer windows’ was introduced, or why it was introduced.

On the face of it, it’s as much of a restriction of ‘trade’ on ’employers’, as the pre-Bosman situation was on freedom of employment was on ‘workers'(players).

Is there a decently worked out rationale for the concept?

It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
easyJamboDecember 27, 2017 at 17:49
‘..I think that the document will only be a restatement of the resolutions that were approved at the AGM (Resolutions 10 & 11).’
You’re perfectly right, of course, eJ: it was only the official recording  of the AGM resolutions.

I think I for one (in my general ignorance) tend to think that any plc of which a director has been taken to the Courts( in an unprecedented action by the Takeover Panel) would have every form or document that it submitted to Companies House rigorously examined, cross-checked, double-checked, treble checked ,even, in a way that ,for example, the SFA does not do with documents submitted to it by its trustworthy gentlemen members.

The Takeover Panel has a lot riding on how the Law stands in its approach to the Panel’s need for support in their regulation of rogues in the market-place.

So I tend to look at anything touching on RIFC plc that seems even a wee bit different as something worth exploring.

Largely tongue-in-cheek, of course: -we’re not likely ever to be told anything confidential by CH! But if they say something will appear, and then it doesn’t appear when promised, then it allows one to ask why. Keeps them on their toes!

And we know that when even the gentlemen of our free Press are not above behaving with less than complete honesty when it comes to TRFC Ltd/RIFC plc  there may (God forbid!) exist a ‘protective of companies’ mindset in CH, rather than a ‘get the baddies’ approach.

Who knows?

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