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Comment on Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey by Highlander.

I’m heading off to work shortly on what is the first day of the brand new league season.

I’ve scunnered myself by re-reading the SPFL’s press release relating to the legal advice given by Gerry Moynihan QC following the Supreme Court’s final ruling on EBTs.

The legal advice rules out several actions on the basis that they are not allowed for under the rules of the SPL/SPFL/SFA.

It is now exactly five years since the start of the 2012/13 season, a season which began with Charles Green’s Rangers being permitted to play its first game only following the granting of a previously unheard of conditional membership of the SFA.

Did our football authorities seek legal advice from an eminent QC into granting a license which was not covered by their rules, and if not, why not? Did the SPFL or SFA seek legal advice on each subsequent occasion they tore up their own rulebook to accommodate any form of Rangers in the past five seasons?

Like the claims of double jeopardy applying outside a courtroom, the SPFL’S press release contains more mince than a butchers shop.

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“I still follow Rangers. When you leave, you’re not a player anymore, but you become a supporter.” To emphasise it, he says that the administration and liquidation of Rangers in those fateful days five years ago “killed Scottish football”. Not many outside of Ibrox would agree, but Mols doesn’t care much about that.

“How many leagues have Celtic won now?” Six-in-a-row. “But four without Rangers. The challenge was always Rangers and Celtic. It wasn’t a challenge for four years, so you think it’s an achievement winning six-in-a-row or not? For me, Celtic winning the four years Rangers weren’t there, I don’t think it’s an achievement. No.

It’s not an opinion he expects many outside Rangers to share.

He’s 750 miles away in Amsterdam, but there’s no escaping certain things. The EBT chat? He’s heard it – his was worth £260,000 – and here’s his take on it. “I just wanted to play for Rangers, I would have played for petrol money. I didn’t tell them that. They say, ‘You can help the club by doing it this way’. I said, ‘OK, as long as I don’t get into trouble’. They put it on a letter and at the end of the day the responsibility is with the club. My agent agreed and also the guy who was doing the tax, because I don’t have a clue about that. I assumed they had the knowledge about it. I agreed with it. I said, ‘No problem, as long as I don’t get into trouble.’

“I think he (Sir David Murray) knew what he was doing. It’s hard to put the club in that situation. I wouldn’t do that. It affected so many people who are following Rangers and you see the result. Four leagues down. It affected the whole of Scottish football. Yeah I would blame him or his advisors.”

The title-stripping furore? That’s carried on the wind from Glasgow to Amsterdam as well. “I don’t even know where my medals are. They can take away my medals or my titles but they can’t take away my memory. I won on the pitch. If Aberdeen did the same, EBTs, would they become champions? Or the guy from Dundee United (Stephen Thompson) who makes a lot of talking about that? Would they become champions? I don’t think so. They need to move on now. Think about their own situation. They (United) need to worry about getting back to the Premier League.”

Michael Mols demonstrates that the average footballer isn’t the sharpest tool in the box. Using Mols’ unique and warped theory about Celtic’s lack of achievement “because Rangers weren’t there”, presumably Rangers lifting of the European Cup Winners Cup in 1972 wasn’t an achievement either, since Celtic weren’t there.

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Does anyone else remember the game at Ibrox in 2012, before the CVA was rejected, when 50,000 fans held up red cards which carried the message “No To Liquidation”?

Now, just why would they be so upset about the prospect of a meaningless, expendable company going into liquidation?

Unless of course……………..

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Talking of journalists, below is an article from 2013 by Graham Speirs on the subject of new club/old club.

The acrimonious debate continues about whether Rangers FC is a new club or not.
BBC Scotland is just the latest to feel the hot wrath of some angry Rangers fans railing at its editorial stance.

In fact, those Rangers fans have scored a notable victory in having a complaint to the Editorial Standards Committee about BBC Scotland upheld

At least two supporters objected to the BBC in Glasgow occasionally referring to Rangers in terms of “old club” and “new club”, and their complaint was upheld.

What was thrown out was the daft accusation, frequently cited among some Rangers cyber zealots, that the BBC was biased against the club.

My point here is not to defend BBC Scotland. In this complex Rangers saga, it has become obvious to me, speaking to various insolvency practitioners, that “new club” or “same club” Rangers is a highly subjective issue. I’ve heard the entire gamut of interpretations on it.

Where Rangers struggle to be angry or insulted by the suggestion that their organisation is a “new club” is in this context: at least four Rangers principals, men who have been lauded by supporters, have expressed just such a view of Rangers as a new club.

First, Charles Green. Prior to Rangers’ descent into liquidation last year, Green was aghast at the attitude of Dave King, a long-standing Rangers director, who had urged that a CVA be voted down by the club’s 276 creditors.

Incredulous at this, Green went on television and said: “What he [King] is suggesting is that, rather than get a CVA through that retains all the history and tradition, that instead we should vote against it and go down the newco route. I mean…why would a true Rangers fan suggest that?”

In this, the view of Green, the man to whom many Rangers fans swooned, appears none too different to that of BBC Scotland and others.

Arguably, no Rangers figure in this debate finds himself in a more excruciating position than James Traynor, the club’s Director of Communication.

Time and space here doesn’t allow for the sheer number of times that Traynor, in his previous role as a journalist, emphatically pronounced Rangers to be a new club once liquidation became a reality. Yet he has the temerity now to argue the complete opposite.

Of the numerous times Traynor weighed in on this subject, just two quotes here will have to suffice.

With liquidation looming, Traynor wrote in the Daily Record: “Some Rangers fans believe the club’s history, which would end with liquidation, must be protected. But any newco should make it clear that a new beginning means exactly that: a new club open to all from the very beginning.”

Later on, with the Rangers CVA being rejected, Traynor wrote: “Rangers FC as we know them are dead.” Caustically, he added: “No matter how Charles Green attempts to dress it up, a newco equals a new club. When the CVA was thrown out, Rangers as we know them died.”

Reading this type of stuff, I would urge Rangers to exercise supreme caution in railing against anyone who dares to call their club a new club; none other than their own Director of Communication has made his view perfectly clear on the subject.

Many a Rangers fan expressed the view that the club died with the descent into liquidation. Typical of this was Ibrox debenture holder Stewart Boal who, having stumbled out of the CVA meeting of June 2012, was quoted by Richard Wilson in The Herald as saying: “We’re in shock. The club is gone. We’ve got to start again and move on.”

Wilson, a fine reporter, himself wrote of that nine-minute creditors’ meeting where the CVA was rejected: “In those few minutes 140 years of history had been rubbed out.”

I could go on and on here. Richard Gough, one of Rangers’ greatest ever captains, wrote in a newspaper column: “The club I gave blood, sweat and tears for is dead.”

Walter Smith, one of the greatest figures in Rangers’ history, and now the club’s chairman, said of Green’s consortium taking over: “I wish the new Rangers Football Club every good fortune.”

This is a painful subject. Many Rangers fans are agonised at the thought of their club being new – they simply rule it out. “It’s the company, not the club,” became the mantra. Other Rangers observers – like me – find it hard to escape the view that the current club is a new club.

Rangers FC itself should think twice about laying into BBC Scotland or anyone else over this old club/new club debate. The more so when its own oral history on the subject is so weak.

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A couple of subjects on here caught my eye over the early festive period. Firstly, the subject of goal-line technology, in view of Hibs’ ‘non-goal’ in the early minutes of the recent Edinburgh derby. As a Hearts fan, I have to hold my hands up to having got lucky on that occasion.

Perhaps surprisingly, Tom English makes a decent fist of the subject of goal-line technology and the use of Video Assistant Referees in his recent BBC article:

If only Tom English was entirely consistent in his analysis of the history of Scottish football, we might not have been subjected over the past five years to such manufactured words, phrases and myths as ‘engine room subsidiary’ and ‘after leaving liquidation’.

Tom English and every so-called journalist in this country knows precisely what happened to Rangers Football Club in 2012. The fact that they know so is recorded for posterity, since every last one of them reported the death of Rangers FC back in the summer of 2012. Whether Tom, like so many others, subsequently took the view it was safer for him to print the official PR propaganda rather than the truth he incontrovertibly knew, doesn’t alter the fact that he, like his cowardly colleagues, is guilty of propagating fiction as fact. He has no excuse, because there is no excuse for such dereliction of duty as a supposed journalist.

The second subject that caught my eye is the fact that Manchester City currently sit 15 points ahead of their nearest EPL rivals and have a goal difference that exceeds the combined totals of the clubs in 2nd and 3rd places.

PSG currently sit eleven points above 2nd placed Monaco in Ligue 1 while Barcelona lead 2nd placed Atletico by 9 points, and Real by 14 points.

Bayern Munich unsurprisingly lead Schalke by eleven points at the top of the Bundesliga at present.

In Scotland, Celtic presently hold a mere eight point lead over second-placed Aberdeen, yet we are lead to believe our league is a meaningless-one-horse-race-foregone-conclusion. It is unjust, we are told, that one club has such an unfair financial advantage over its rivals.

Feel free to correct me, but are Sky and BT customers in England queueing up to cancel their subscriptions because they’re witnessing a foregone conclusion regarding Man City? Spain? France? Germany?

Now I’m not for one second suggesting that the quality on display in the SPFL comes remotely close to those other major leagues, but I can’t help but feeling that we do ourselves a massive disservice by undervaluing our domestic game here in Scotland. I sense a reasonably bright future for Scottish football, probably enhanced by my own club’s relatively successful academy programme allied to news of various other youngsters coming through their own club’s systems. Perhaps if Doncaster and Regan were to promote the positives (ie resign), instead of ridiculing our game, we might make further progress.

It is puzzling why we didn’t hear about Scotland’s unfair financial disparity during the glory years of the now defunct Rangers FC, season after season in which they lifted titles and trophies that they couldn’t genuinely afford to fund, lording it over the rest of us while exploiting a massive financial disparity between themselves and their rivals!

The infuriating thing is that there’s a massive story out there for a real journalist; a story that involves deceit, corruption and cheating. A story that would seal a journalist’s place in history forever. And that’s just about the governing bodies!

Finally, as a Hearts fan I’m contractually obliged to point out that although Hibs were undoubtedly deprived of a goal in the midweek derby, an incident which has justifiably been replayed over and over ad nauseam, and which supposedly highlighted the inconsistencies/frailties of our officials, little time has been spent highlighting the blatant handball in the penalty area by Lewis Stevenson of Hibs in the dying embers of the same game. As penalties go, that was a stonewaller, but I accept those same officials are mere mortals, subject to the same degree of error as you or I.

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Regarding the Q&A session between Club 1872 and club 2012 posted above by eJ, there is one point which rips my knitting more than all the others.

9) Given the volume of lies being published and broadcast daily about our Club, when are the Directors going to adopt a more robust stance with our detractors in the media, as the current policy, just like its predecessors seems to be failing miserably?

How do you even begin to reason with people so deluded by their own misguided sense of victimhood?

Having told us loudly and in unison in 2012 that Rangers FC died, the mainstream media in Scotland shortly afterwards did a complete u-turn and has consistently advised us ever since that Rangers FC somehow survived its failure to exit administration in 2012 and inexplicably survived entering liquidation, but without ever attempting to explain how it did so, presumably because reporting the truth would offend the flat-earthers who couldn’t cope with that truth!

The big lie has been rife in the media ever since.

Yet these morons claim to have been badly treated by the media! Really? What planet do they come from? Uranus? 

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Significant Control – johnjamessite

but why be thorough when you are ripping someone off?

….says the man who had the audacity to “borrow SFM’s editorial article for the good of his readers” (ie our current blog in its entirety) just a matter of days ago.

I’d wager “borrowed” means stolen without permission, although the mods might confirm that permission was indeed sought and granted and a suitable donation made to this site. It’s just yet another example of the blatant double standards he employs. You couldn’t mark his neck with a blowtorch.

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DECEMBER 16, 2017 at 19:10

I agree with every single word you just posted. However, you’ve stopped going to matches and I’ve withdrawn all financial support from my club too. There will inevitably come a time when the trickle becomes a flood. The mainstream media is living on borrowed time as more and more information is dissected and disseminated through the agenda and PR-free internet. Keep the faith – it will eventually happen.

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The outcome of the the SFA Compliance Officer’s investigation into the the SFA‘s award of Rangers European Licence in 2011 is a foregone conclusion. It is like turkeys voting for Christmas, or the football authorities in their infinite wisdom allowing Rangers to investigate themselves in the matter of links between Craig Whyte and Charles Green a few years ago.

Anybody waiting for justice best not hold their breath.

The football authorities and club chairmen only see pound signs. Those club officials and football authorities are all expendable. Unlike fans, when one leaves, he is immediately replaced.

Only when the penny finally drops and those officials realise that the real investors in our game, the fans, are leaving permanently in their droves, will it dawn on them the damage they have perpetrated on our national sport. Unfortunately it will be too late by then. “We did what we did for the good of the game” will ring hollow in empty stadia. 

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