Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey


PATMATTAUGUST 5, 2017 at 20:28    Sorry Cluster One. Neil Doncaster is not …

Comment on Launch of SFSA Fans’ Survey by upthehoops.

PATMATTAUGUST 5, 2017 at 20:28   
Sorry Cluster One. Neil Doncaster is not one of my heroes but, to be fair he was at Celtic Park today. I was a guest at the Boardroom there this afternoon and he was there, large as life. He did not help to raise the Champion’s Flag and I don’t think that he would have been welcomed to do so.


If it was up me I would not allow Doncaster or Regan into Celtic Park unless it was an event where the club is contractually obliged. As far as I am concerned both those men think Rangers cheating on tax to the disadvantage of other clubs is okay.  I saw Regan on Twitter congratulating Celtic on beating Rosenberg. Hollow and meaningless words. If they genuinely want football to move on then they must recognise it is not possible with them in charge. 

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EASYJAMBOAUGUST 1, 2017 at 20:37 =====================

If the SFA do have a review then a JR could be put on the back burner until it is over, or could a Judge say no to any JR at all based on the SFA agreeing to the SPFL request to have a review?

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Re Ian Cathro. Who knows whether he would ever have made it given more time but after the weekend it was unlikely Hearts were going to risk a poor start to the league season. 

How he was treated by the Scottish media is far more worthy of debate. I recall him being spoken of highly from his time with Dundee Utd, and while with Valencia. BBC even flew a reporter to Spain to get an interview. However, let’s not forget he was linked with a job at Ibrox at the time.  One of his most vociferous critics was Kris Boyd, a man who has achieved nothing in coaching himself, but who has many friends and much respect in the media due to a past association. He was not Cathro’s only critic of course but he highlighted the problem of Cathro not being in the gang, and not having previous associations that buy you time and many friends.  The Hearts job is one of the biggest in the Scottish game. I’m sure jealousy also played a big part in the media savaging this young man received before he had even started the job in earnest. 

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BIG PINKJULY 31, 2017 at 00:59  
The syntax, grammar and word-choice surrounding this whole mess is farcical. There’s a new idiom coined every other day to stick a finger in the TRFC anomaly dyke.Normal conversation has to be suspended whilst people grasp in the dark for ways to describe fairly simple concepts like ‘football club’, ‘relegation’, ‘liquidation’, ‘registration’, ‘opinion’ and ‘cheating’.There is a war going on, waged principally by the criminally insane and chronically corrupt officials at Hampden, and aided and abetted by the anti-journalists at EVERY media outlet within the boundaries of Scotland.There is a war being waged against Reason itself, and for our own sanity we can’t let them win.


BP, due to your past associations I assume you may know some of those in the media currently playing their part in  all this. Have you any idea what the initiator was for them to do such an about turn on their previous stance that liquidation meant new club? Did the authorities hold private briefings with them where it was agreed the same club stance would be in their mutual best interests? 

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Mordecai 17th August 2022 At 05:31


The BBC did provide me with the Information Commissioner’s contact details in the event I wanted to take the matter further and I have indeed done just that! I really can’t see how in the event that a publicly funded organisation has used public money to gain media access to a football club that we don’t have a right to know. If they haven’t done so I believe we also have the right to know given this payment for media access was a known issue last season.

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A few weeks ago, after the BBC published its groveling apology towards Ibrox, I asked under Freedom of Information whether (a) they have paid licence fee money to gain media access at Ibrox, and (b) whether any other Scottish club charges them for media access. They responded basically saying they don’t have to tell me, as journalism is not covered by the FOI act. I find this incredible given that if they have paid for access, they will have used money contributed by all licence fee payers. Also, does paying for access compromise their right to apply the same level of analysis as they do to clubs who don’t charge?

Edit: I see a fans forum online claiming the charge has been ditched ‘quietly’.

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John Clark 6th August 2022 At 23:42

But my deepest scorn is for those in the SMSM who ought, ought as a matter of journalistic duty, as being the very essence of ‘journalism’, to have got right into the stupid, stupid, lie that a football club in Liquidation was somehow still participating in Scottish Football as if it had not died!


For me the most disappointing thing is journalists who we know are not cheerleaders for all things Ibrox, being cowed into submission, I could mention them here, but basic human decency makes me know they have a job, and a family, and an employer who is beholden to all things ‘Rangers’. However, they really need to ask themselves why they ever bothered becoming journalists in the first place, because the ‘seeking the truth others don’t want to hear’ claim really doesn’t hold water! They’ve sold their soul, and they know it!

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Big Pink 6th August 2022 At 09:41

Seems unlikely that Morelos is part owned by anyone else. However there’s only way of testing either theory is if he is transferred, and that seems an ever decreasing outcome given all we have talked about for the last four years is how much he will be offloaded for.
Also, what happens if he runs goes contract down? Would that mean that the 14% would also disappear?
Just doesn’t sound right at all.


You may well be right, however given all that’s come to pass since 2012 I don’t think it can be ruled out either. If it is a breach of the SFA’s registration procedures what confidence would we have the SFA would do anything about it anyway? The absurd LNS investigation springs to mind. Also, the SFA themselves found there was a case to answer regarding the award of a European licence in 2011, then went on to just drop the case!

The tax thieving American businesswoman Leona Helmsley once said “taxes are for the little people”. In the same way, SFA rules are for the little people, who are every other club bar the one playing out of Ibrox. I don’t think there’s any doubt about that.

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Wokingcelt 28th July 2022 At 21:13

Taking a step back you have to ask what on earth has gone on here. I am fairly confident that the UK Government will face a public inquiry (or is that enquiry – I can never get that one right!) over Covid loans and procurements made. Not saying that it will put right the wrongs but at least there will be a report. I have zero confidence that any such inquiry will be held in Scotland to account for the untold millions – by my reckoning north of £100m which if scaled up would be north of £1.2bn in UK terms. And all for a football club – totally unconscionable.


The Scottish Government have said an independent inquiry will be held once all the legal processes are complete. The trouble is, how do you guarantee true independence in such a matter in Scotland? Nothing should be more independent than the Police and the legal system yet that is what will be under scrutiny. I doubt the Scottish Government will want any inquiry to say that there is institutional bias towards ‘Rangers’ because that would then lead to so many other questions. I suspect a lot more taxpayers money will be spent on a whitewash, with the real truth emerging in 30 years time. The very fact that so many politicians and media commentators stay silent on what is an absolute scandal tells us all we need to know. If it concerned any other football club there would be outrage. Old attitudes don’t die easily, and are clearly passed down the line. We should be truly thankful that HMRC do not answer to the Scottish Government.

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