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Good morning Jimbo(or afternoon back home)
Although it has not been our best season it was a better fighting performance on Saturday last against the Dandies, I think that Killie will continue our unbeaten record this season against Celtic and snatch an extremely valuable point. If we do this will have been the first time in a long time(very long time)we have went thru a season unbeaten against Celtic.
your in sport
Gaun the Killie

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Look Back to Look Forward
KILLIE1962MARCH 29, 2016 at 17:28==========================
Always better to do some research before making such posts.
In September 1995 Celtic played a ECWC tie in Georgia against Dynamo Batumi on a Thursday. Such were the travel arrangements to and from that country they could not get back to Glasgow until the early hours of the Saturday. This was known well in advance and the club had asked if the Saturday fixture against Motherwell could be put back 24 hours. The authorities refused. It was not the only time that season they had to play on the Saturday following a Thursday game. Most interesting was the Scottish league deciding in 1996 that a Scottish team (IIRC Hearts) playing on a Thursday and then the following Saturday was unfair, despite deeming it fair enough the year before, and changed the rules.  
Going back to October 1967, Celtic did not return from a Wednesday EC tie in Kiev until late on Friday night. Despite that, they had to play on the Saturday. 
So in answer to your question ‘I just wonder if Rangers or Celtic would have received the same treatment, some things never change!!’, Celtic most certainly received the same treatment, on several occasions.

I do stand in the corner doing penance for my belief that the provincial clubs usually ended up getting the short stick from the powers that be, I do notice that it was both Eastern European trips that cased the delay and these would indeed have been most tiring trips,mind you the Killie squad may not have been as large as the Celtic squad but either way the League put the boot in and it does not say much for the Scottish League or the Scottish Premier league that no help or “accommodation” was given to either team, our boys only had to go from Aberdeen to Liverpool and would have had decent beer to keep the spirits up whilst your boys probably had to intake  dodgy Vodka to keep the spirits up!!
yours in sport
Gaun the Killie


Look Back to Look Forward
Good morning Kopweb(at least it is here in the deepest North of California)
Just a wee reminder that only 4 years later the might of Ayrshire gave Eintracht 4 goals of a start (3 in Germany and a cracking goal to open the scoring at Rugby Park) where in the words of an immortal Scottish TV Commentator-“and these Ayrshire boys are swarming” came blaring over the tellys all over Scotland as  Killie cracked in 5 (didnae even need extra time!!) to make it thru for a wee trip to Merseyside to play the might of Everton. If my memory serves me correctly the Scottish Football league went out of the way to help Killie by sending them away to play Aberdeen at Pittodrie on a Saturday(where the game was almost abandoned due to a horrendous sea haar which swept down over the area) and a last minute goal by Jackie McInally gave the team a point which would prove invaluable later on in the season. If you are wondering about the help from the Scottish League I ask the following question, what other organisation would send one of their teams still participating in Europe away from home on the longest trip of their league program knowing full well that they were due to play Everton in Liverpool on the Monday night!!!!! Any chance of a rearrangement fellahs??? The team was obviously tired and went down 4-1 in the second leg. I just wonder if Rangers or Celtic would have received the same treatment, some things never change!!
For my friend Jimbo, I don’t think I would have made a good Iron Man, I’d need to be oiled too frequently but as I was always subsidizing my other wee mate Jake ( a Dumbarton fan who is also in exile in Northern California) during our Sunday sessions I reckon I might have been Reed Richards, always stretching deep into my pockets for the price of the rounds, but on second thought that handle might belong to the illustrious Chairman over in Govan, he is a dab at stretching his arms into everyone’s pockets except his own as well as having an uncanny knack of stretching the truth aided and abetted by the SMSM!! 
Yours in Sport
Gaun the Killie


Look Back to Look Forward
Good morning Jimbo(late afternoon here),
Aye I felt we deserved a point but if we were going to lose I cannot argue with a cracking goal like that.It was a real sickener but in the 7 games we have left there are no more Celtic, Aberdeen, Hearts or hopefully Ross County who have seen us off three times this season!!(McIntyre, a Killie Legend, how could you??) We have 7 games to clear the two dreaded spots and I am quietly confident that if we play the way we did today and show as much fight we will dodge the bullets. New manager Clarke has shown some passion and Jig has proved me wrong, I wasn’t too happy to see him at the start of the season but the defense is not leaking the way it was and he did prove to be tacticaly more on the ball than Gordon Locke. Two narrow one goal defeats from the top two teams in the League shows us a wee glimmer of light.

Too finish on a bright note I remember the last 2 games of the 1980/81 season where Killie played the new Champions-Celtic-at Parkhead and could as easily have beaten them as taken the 1-1 draw,then up to Pittodrie to play the previous season’s champions Aberdeen where we thumped them 2-0. A great end to a bad season, despite these two great results we were still on the way down!!!
yours in sport
Gaun the Killie

PS-After talking with Ianagain I had a feeling Motherwell were going to be a coupon buster!!


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THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight
Hi fellahs, 
I have to agree with Allyjambo, when you are liquidated you are bust, simple as that. I really think that if I had been a Glaswegian I would have been a Third Lanark fan but then again I like history. I remember going to watch Killie against Celtic in the 1972 Scottish Cup Semi Final, just a wee puppy with my Da, the Killie buses were parked not too far from the old Cathkin Park and the terracing and entrances were not demolished, all the troops had been drinking so that Scottish sense of using somewhere to pee were in the back of the derelict main doors!! Obviously at my age it was coke but I still remember asking my Da what happened that a club could fold, I was too young to fully understand, I think my point here is why did the SFA not try to help this club, as well as the other clubs that have folded, Airdrieonians(still cannot see that it’s the same team) Gretna, Clydebank etc. I know teams died in the earlier part of the century but the help given to bail out the Rangers football club is nonsensical. On a a personal note I hope we gub them tonight, I do not consider them Rangers despite the hype. Enjoyed that wee piece AllyJambo and it made me think there are still some sensible people out there, I see it from a different angle living in the USA, they haven’t a clue, especially in the social clubs who show the games on a Saturday
Gaun the Killie 


The Day I was on the Scotland U-23 Bench
Enjoyed the blog and it did indeed remind of times when things were completely different in football. I too was lucky enough to enjoy a similar experience but with a different manager and to my utter shame and embarrassment(well I had a partial excuse, travelling all night after a heavy session) I did not recognize the gentleman in question till my friend whispered in my ear. It was back in 1981, the year of the Wembley ban and in those far off days there was two weekends, the first one in Wales and then London the following week.Scotland were playing Wales in Swansea(usually it was Cardiff or Wrexham but this was a first for us, a wee trip to Swansea) and as everyone piled into the hotel and got their rooms my friend and I were the odd men left out, it seems the Hotel staff were having trouble getting rid of the person who had booked our room for the previous evening(hangover??)They asked us to kindly wait in the Hotel tea room where we were given a couple of complimentary beverages for our trouble. Obviously the scarves and bunnets were still on and as we were sitting this older gentleman asked if he could join us. Pleasantly surprised that anyone would want to sit next to two tired members of the Tartan Army we said “no problem”. The football talk began in earnest and it was obvious this guy knew what he was talking about. He was harping on about West Ham United and Bobby Ferguson-we had mentioned we were from Kilmarnock and then turned on to tactics and International football. He asked if we were going to next week’s game at Wembley and jokingly asked where we got our tickets(via Johnnie Walker’s London Office on St James Street). We ordered up some more beers, despite the early hour, but the gentleman took a cup of tea. He took his leave after an hour or so and also picked up the tab for the extra beers, the cheapskate hotel only giving us one free round,and told us both to enjoy the game. Turned out the gent was Ron Greenwood the England manager and he was down on a wee spying trip for the upcoming games against both Wales and Scotland. I learned more about football in an hour than I ever had in my (at that time) previous 19 years on this planet!!. He was indeed a gracious and courteous man and I always thought he was too nice to be the England Manager as despite good results the press was always crucifying him. In typical Scottish fashion we got gubbed 3-0 by Wales and then won 1-0 the next week at Wembley!!

yours in sport
Gaun the Killie


Peace – Not War
On the Poppy theme I sometimes think that I am way out of the loop. Growing up in Scotland in the 60’s and 70’s and working from 1979 till 1990 before my exile Stateside I used to put a wee donation in the can, wear my poppy(even as a kid Da would always help pin it on for me). I never questioned political motives or freedom of speech, I just wore it and sometimes went to the Cenotaph in Kilmarnock(across from the Dick Institute) each Remembrance Day with Da to honor my Mum’s Uncle James Storrie Rae, killed in action at Loos in 1917.On TV my mum never missed the BBC Remembrance show on the Saturday night, the highlight at the end being the Chelsea Pensioners marching in and then a load of Poppies were released from the ceiling to fall down as the poem was read out.On Sunday she never missed the ceremony broadcast on TV.Am I in the minority when I long for those days, no PC Brigade, no big debates and pissing contests just a simple remembering of the Great Fallen. These days everything gets so over complicated and people seem to love putting the boot into Britain (see Phil MC G’s continuing saga via twitter on British War Crimes-maybe a wee bit bitter eh??) I am Scottish first, have an Irish background too and still have British Citizenship and all I see is negativity and point scoring. It’s not just over there, here in the States they are continuing to rewrite History, knock down monuments to General Lee from the Civil War,( or the war of Northern Aggression depending on your viewpoint) sorry, history happens. Words and contexts from the 19th and early 20th century are being censored as people try to kid themselves on these things never happened. For goodness sake they are making a remake of the Dam busters and are trying to change Commander Guy Gibson’s dog’s name from Nigger to Trigger so not to upset people!! Sorry, don’t rewrite history, get over it, which brings me back to the Poppy, if you don’t wan’t to wear one don’t but don’t make a song and dance about it. Those old soldiers would turn in their graves over the stupidity about such a kerfuffle over nothing!! Having visited a lot of war graves in Europe and how well they are tended that is remembrance of the first order.It is a simple thing and one day to remember the Great Fallen, it could do without all the arguing and just be simply remembered on the 11th hour on the 11th day of the 11th month. I can remember when everything stopped at that point, even at school.Maybe I am in the wrong time zone, as a proud Historian I really do not have much time for the PC Brigade or loudmouths.
Yours in Sport
Guan The Kilie


The Causes of Crime
Oh wow Pat, you say you are not trying to bring the man down then bring up comparisons of Bi polar behavior, really? As I mentioned earlier more than a few posters on this site have been ganging up on him, probably high fiving each other in Cyber Space as they try to out do each of their negative posts on JJ. Then you tell Jimbo to take his blinkers off, last time I checked Jimbo was not being entered into any horse race where he would need blinkers!! If I was constantly being degraded by those posters I would probably get a wee bit defensive too, they feel fine spouting on here but won’t go on to the site and have an honest and open debate putting their reasoning forward, they would get answers without any hassle or derogatory comments.It’s simple, if you don’t agree or think it’s a fantasy just ignore it and move on. It’s notable that there has been no legal action threatened against JJ by The Rangers Football Club as they know he’s spot on with a lot of his stuff and they dare not open up cans of worms. As for his agenda, I cannot read JJ’s mind but I would think that he just want’s his club, The Rangers, to get their house in order and I also think the majority of decent Bears would agree with him, they all want to get back to football and not the rest of the crap that has been going on and is still going on. I really don’t like a lot of Phil’s site as I find it too biased but I don’t try and give him a character assassination !!
Yours In Sport
Gaun The Killie


The Causes of Crime
I really don’t understand the venom towards JJ’s site from certain posters on here. It’s almost like a gleeful clique of guys trying to out do each other with negative posts. If you think you can do better create your own sites and obtain your own contacts. I have noticed this over the last 9 months and it has steadily got nastier and nastier. I’m pretty sure JJ won’t lose any sleep over the comments but I can only shake my head. We are all supposed to be on the same side but it seems that ego’s are being stroked. As for asking for funding this site does the same thing, so does it then become a double standard? Concentrate on the real issues and leave the pettiness behind, this is a fine site and it should be above the churlish comments, or why not go over and post on JJ’s site and have a frank discussion and open debate, I’m sure he would be open to it, unlike Phil’s site where if you post anything against the party line it either doesn’t get published or causes him to get all hot and bothered under the collar.
Your’s in sport
Gaun The Killie


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