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HirsutePursuitMarch 17, 2016 at 00:10 The SFA line is that they …

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HirsutePursuitMarch 17, 2016 at 00:10

The SFA line is that they are only responsible for the granting of a license and at 31st March there was no overdue payable as defined. In fact there was no bill at that point. All covered by Article 50

However by 30 June 2011 the bill had arrived on 20th May 2011, was 10 days overdue by 30 June as the bill asked for payment or an appeal within 30 days. There was no payment and no appeal so it was overdue unless any of the conditions in the Annex applied at 30 June. They didn’t and if they had I’m sure we would have heard by now as Celtic would have been told so back in Dec 2011 when they enquired. The answer then as now refers only to the state of play under Art 50. No mention of Art 66.
Whilst Annex IX spells out what should be done re checking on tax owed it falls down in referring only to requirement at 31st March not 30th June, but Art 66 itself says the licensee must PROVE that at 30 June it has no overdue payables and the monitoring responsibilities of the SFA ask they check the submission for completeness.
Article 54 – Monitoring process 
 1 The monitoring process starts on submission by the licensor of the list of licensing decisions to the UEFA administration and ends at the end of the licence season. 
 2 It consists of the following minimum key steps: 
 a) issuing of the monitoring documentation to the licensor and licensee; 
 b) return of the required completed monitoring documentation by the licensee to the licensor; 
 c) assessment and confirmation of the COMPLETENESS of each licensee’s documents by the licensor; 
 d) submission of the VALIDATED documentation by the licensor to the Club Financial Control Panel; 
 e) assessment of the documentation by the Club Financial Control Panel; 
 f) if appropriate, request for additional information by the Club Financial Control Panel; 
 g) decision by the Club Financial Control Panel as specified in the relevant provisions of the UEFA Organisational Regulations. 
 3 The deadlines for the above monitoring process steps are communicated to the licensors in a timely manner by the UEFA administration.

It seems incongruous that the requirement to check if there was an overdue payable at 31st March were to be any less rigorous at the 30th June and as above states, the CFCB govern the monitoring process but national association are responsible for monitoring. How else could it work? Not likely CFCB would ask clubs questions directly.
In a way it is almost moot what went on then at the SFA in that if it is true that at 30th June 2011 there was an overdue payable then that is still true, so how did it slip by the SFA and CFCB?
We know that Malaga did not get away with the “club were in negotiation line” that Regan gave JC and that is because that is what Malaga FC told the UEFA what they were doing and UEFA said that does not stop you having an overdue payable and started investigation and sanction proceedings.
So how did an overdue payable at 30 June not get picked up? Is the fault with RFC/SFA/UEFA and what steps to correct the fault are being taken?

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A question about the news HMRC will be able to retrieve tax on “loan” bets. 
Does new legislation apply to all schemes similar to that used by RFC or just to schemes that were operated outside of Parliamentary intent? In short is it only ebts  with side letters that HMRC will pursue 
Or
Is it all ebts that turn out not to be loans repaid by 2019 regardless of side letters?
Does this new legislation mean that the question of taxability of btc ebts is irrelevant? All that matters is if payments were loans then only repayment of the loan will allow it to escape tax?

Does new legislation make the question of whether btc ebts were loans or not redundant in that it’s not a matter of judicial judgment but a matter of fact? IE if it’s a loan only repayment by 2019 will prove it and where repayment does not occur then each ebt that is not “settled” by then cannot be  a loan so tax is due?

 

 


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Reiver
Read this.

Leigh, Kieran, marking your card


Your work was excellent but it was always going to run into what it did.

How do I know? Been there and done that on a smaller scale.

So an alternative had to be found.
The resolution route  worked before in 2011 when Celtic  got behind an Open Meeting  resolution asking  for a change of the video review panel process and transparency and accountability of the SFA.
They will have to again on Res12.
The case is too strong and the cause is good.
Right is might.


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JJ’s latest blog will be familiar to many SFM readers and it has the value of placing that LNS narrative and those who played a part in it to a wider audience.
An Uphill Task
http://johnjamessite.com/2016/03/30/an-uphill-task/comment-page-1/#comment-11858
The comment awaiting clearance that again SFM readers will be familiar with is:
Who actually looked into the player files in 2005? Did Mr McMillan travel to Ibrox and do a personal search on his own or  did he ask Andrew Dickson who held them since 2004 to have a look?
Somebody had to look for them so who deliberately misled HMRC?


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It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
UP THE HOOPS
The allegations on CQN that Bobby Madden has a gambling problem surely require his  removal from the the firing line until the allegators are proved wrong.
No snap decisions, just a leisurely swim until there is no question as to his motivations. 


It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
Dons/Hibees/Jambos and any other club wanting a UEFA spot.
Flogging players who have put TRFC near top of league is an admission those players unaffordable.
The solution is to make a licence for TRFC conditional on a realistic sustainable business plan. SFA are not doing their licencing job. Never have in fact.
So what questions are your club Directors asking the SFA?
Why not get them to ask UEFA if they are happy with the way SFA process licence applications from Ibrox. Seems UEFA not happy.
Proper club licencing can level the playing field a bit but it also protects all clubs from charlatans selling jam tomorrow.


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Matthew Lindsay: Time for Dave King to depart Rangers – but who could take over at the Ibrox club?

Rangers need to be run by individuals whose integrity is beyond doubt.
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Do such individuals steeped in blue exist?

As rare as a dodo nesting on an iceberg in Carlisle Bay, Barbados.
” No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.” Albert Einstein 
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I got my electronic copy of Not The View delivered yesterday.
Browsing through I thought I recognised The Christmas Tale offering and was pleased to read it as I had forgotten it was a tale I told at Christmas in 2012 (on CQN I think).
I think it worth repeating as a reminder of why SFM exists – because we love football and we love Scottish football and we aren’t done yet.
A CHRISTMAS TALE
See me?
 
See me?
 
Ah jist luv fitbaw.
 
Its funny cos I was never that interested until about age eleven when a good pal, who was destined never to see his 21st birthday after a car crash in Rome encouraged me to try it. John was there to become a priest but got fast tracked by the Big Man who knows a good guy when he sees wan.
 
John encouraged me to give it a go in Suffolk St.  We played “croassies in” with the metal pull down blinds that formed the gates to the interior of the Barras as goals. Plastic baws, Fridos then Wembleys, arrived about then and many a red hot poker made the game a bogey in a failed attempt at repairing a burst baw.
 
(I blame the whelk shells; they were aw ower the place from the Oyster Bar in the Gallowgate (where I was entrapped in the cellar two weekends in a row cleaning whelks and mussels) and the ravenous appetite of the Glasgow punter for shellfish.
 
I played fitbaw morning, noon and night and saw Glasgow Green pitches UPGRADED from black ash/clinker to red blaze. We thought we were Wullie Fernie playing on that stuff and there was a case for playing with 10 baws as teams were filled with tanner baw players (goalies were just last man standing) for whom the object of the game was to beat everybody else in the opposition before scoring or it wisnae a goal.
 
I remember wan night  at the Glasgow Green waiting to play for St Alphonsus v Our Lady of Fatima  when I saw Tony Green, who was a Mungo boy and went on to play for Newcastle and Scotland before injury ended his career too early, waiting, sannies under his arm, to get a game with any team who were a man short. I think the OLOF manager mugged wan of his boys as Tony appeared for them and turned a virtuoso performance against us to give OLOF a 3-2 victory.
 
I started work and went to London for a year to work in the old Post Office Savings Bank. In my first week Jock (a Jock) approached and asked if I played. He never mentioned the sport, he didnae hiv tae, we wur already communicating at the spiritual level only fitbaw lovers can reach (the kind of thing that electrifies CP on CL nights.)
 
I get directions fur a game oan the Saturday at Acton Town and turn up, new Puma boots, paid by my transfer grant, under my arm (nae sannies fur me) On entering the park ahm puzzled, there wiz GRASS everywhere, nae clinker or red blaze in sight.  “Must be roon the back of the dressing rooms “ I remember thinking.
 
Anyhoo I gets changed runs roon the back to see — MAIR grass as far as the eye can see. So I troop back tae the dressing rooms to get directions to the ash pitches. When I explain what ah wiz used to playin oan they aw jist looked at me like my village wiz searching fur their idiot.
 
Well I get sorted out and line up. The baw, I remember, wiz a size 5 orange wan, but no wan o they bricks wi laces. The first pass to me wiz high and ah chests the ball doon and whirls roon afore I get studded from the back as wiz the custom oan the narrow pitches of Glasgow Green. To ma amazement the nearest opponent to me is about 4 yards away. As I look into his eyes I smile and turn to Jock at the sidelines and shout.
 
“Yer gonnae need anither baw” as I meander off in pursuit of the only goal that counted for a tanner baw man. I think I managed 7 before netting and I’ll take that. It wiz oan unfamiliar grass after all.
 
 Postscript “Aye very guid Auldheid” yer thinking (if you have stayed with me so far.)
“Nice reminiscing and it is Christmas Eve, so thanks fur the memories. “
 
But there’s mer tae this tale fur
 
See me?
 
See me?
 
I jist luv fitbaw.
 
Its ma game, its  OOR game and when I see the mess those responsible for looking after its welfare have made of it ah want to do something.
 
I hope ahm not alone.
 
Dec 2012


It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
That Dave King is allowed any influence in Scottiish football is a dereliction of the duty of the SFA to protect our game from criminality.

Dave King should be called to account by the other clubs via the SFA to provide evidence he can do what he has promised, which is bank roll TRFC.

At the very least the clubs should be preparing for another insolvency event at Ibrox and deciding the conditions they will set for TRFC to continue taking part in Scottish football on the same basis as every other club, who act with the utmost good faith to fellow members.

The clubs via the SFA have the powers under Club Licensing to do so, powers that the SFA Comp Off can only conclude the SFA have failed to utilise. Powers that UEFA must have recognised by now as a result of Res12 letter of May 2016 and UEFA Licence submission this year, are not being used fully by the SFA.  

It was self preservation that underpinned the 5 Way Agreement . The dangers of that agreement – destroying integrity, undermining trust, ignoring deceit – become more and more manifest and should alert other clubs to the necessity to exercise their collective responsibility to each other and so to our game that they govern via the SFA on our behalf, using Club Licensing powers.

When a particular course of action designed to preserve self is not working it is human nature to try another course.

Not renewing STs come April/May unless positive trust restoring actions are taken by our clubs collectively, is one way of changing minds about what is self preserving.


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