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Welcome Mary Kate. As a big film fan I recognised the name and ‘The Quiet Man’ has a very, very tenuous link to Scottish football. The film is a favourite of Gerry ‘the voice of (a) football’ Mcnee and he would write a book about it called ‘In the Footsteps of the Quiet Man’. I miss Gerry, sort of. Anyone know what he is up to now?
 
https://www.penguin.co.uk/authors/gerry-mcnee/1048843/
 
Well done again, JC. Looks like Regans words might come back to haunt him. I’d assume this is the official SFA position (has it been ok’d by Darryl?) on the issue and Auldheids post seems to question this.

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bluMarch 15, 2016 at 16:15
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Good spot. I never realised Raith were in the first division when Nicol won it.


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neepheid
March 15, 2016 at 14:50
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There are two managerial awards; the SFWA and the PFA. It looks like the writers one has only ever been given to managers in the top division. The exception is Andy Roxburgh who won in 89/90, presumably for qualifying for Italia 90. The PFA have given their award 4 times to a manager outside the top division.
 
Respectfully, I think you’re positing a hypothetical situation so you can rage against it and I’d be surprised if Warburton won any of the awards. If Rangers won the Championship, Scottish cup and Petrofac cup he might deserve it, I suppose. I think it will depend on what other teams do. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PFA_Scotland_Manager_of_the_Year
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SFWA_Manager_of_the_Year
 


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Tayred, if you don’t listen to any radio phone-in type show or read the Record or any other daily rag how can you reasonably conclude that Deila gets an extremely rough ride from the SMSM when you don’t know what’s said or written about him by a large section of it?
 
There is no doubt that McCoist got an embarrassingly easy ride from the media in the beginning but as his failings became all too apparent it was more difficult for them ignore performances. They tried their best though. Particular highlights for me? Linking him with the vacant Crystal Palace job in 2014 or Chick Young breathlessly blurting out McCoists name during a manager of the year discussion. Richard Gordon’s exasperated response of ‘Chick!’ was a joy to behold.    
 
Anyhoo, generally speaking, on last night’s show I didn’t think Deila was unfairly criticised or ridiculed nor Warburton excessively praised. No one picked either as their manager of the year and Speirs thought the real test for Warburton would be performances against better quality opposition on a more regular basis. They did complement him on the job done at Rangers given the state of the team when he took over. I think that’s a fair enough observation. McInnes, Stubbs, Neilson and McIntyre were also mentioned in the discussions. The general consensus, at the moment, was McIntyre for manager and Griffiths a shoe in for player of the year.


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It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
DARKBEFOREDAWN, again a very sensible post and a good read. I don’t think looking abroad for examples is particularly informative. Different countries will have their own set of rules and it’s probably not a one size fits all situation.

Why not keep it in Scotland and use Airdrionians as an example? They may have got their name back but they were founded in 2002 as Airdrie Utd after the original club went into liquidation. 


It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
DARKBEFOREDAWN, that’s a good post. What I would say is that this Rangers are the same but different. They are a result of the old one being liquidated. An emotional connection is obvious but surely there can be no claim to any titles previously won by the old club? 

As for the EBTs was it not the incorrect use of them that was the problem? It’s the side letters, not regestering payments with the SFA, not supplying information and lying to authorities that is the issue.

An emotional response is understandable and when all is said and done it’s only a football club. I sat in the rear of the Govan stand for years with my family. For me this is the second version of the club and I don’t think that’s a big deal. They still play at Ibrox, play in blue strips….


Who Is Conning Whom?
I personally haven’t read anything that has made me think anyone should be removed from this site. From what I’ve read, the debate has been pretty civilised. I really dont see a problem. I think sometimes the terms ‘troll’ and ‘squirrel’ can be misused to shut down conversations. 

No one has to read every post and if anyone wants to raise other issues for discussion then they are free to do so. I’m sure the Mods will step in if they feel things are getting out of hand. 

The discussions this last week or so have improved my understanding of certain issues and I think that’s a really positive thing. 

I read, and occasionally post, on SFM because I’m broadly in agreement with what is discussed on here. We shouldn’t exist in a self-congratulatory bubble or be unwelcoming to posters who have a different take on things. 


Who Is Conning Whom?
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Specifically who has this vice like grip on the football authorities and media? It seems everybody, whichever team they support, is unhappy with the authorities and media. Reading, listening and interpreting the exact same things but coming to completely different conclusions. 

On on that note, whilst I don’t agree with our new poster, I have enjoyed reading his posts and the responses from the more clued up on here. 

As for JJ, it seems to me he is just offering his readers an updated version of succulent lamb. Let’s call it cyber lamb. I think he knows his audience well and has no problem playing to it. 

I think everyone has been poorly served and continues to be poorly served by the SMSM. Is that because of an agenda, finances, a lack of journalistic talent or just the media doing what the media do? Take your pick, I guess. 


Time to Ditch the Geek Show
Nice picture at the top from Nightmare Alley. I do like a good Film Noir. For the purists these are low budget affairs with no major stars (Rangers) that may or may not involve a death (Rangers, again), a double cross (Greene/Whyte), a private detective, also known as a ‘dick’, trying to work out what the hell is going on but is hopelessly behind the curve and manipulated by others (Keith Jackson), a collection of chancers, charlatans and criminals (Rangers boardroom) and with a narrative and worldview that’s undeniably pessimistic (armageddon). Have we been watching one these past few years?

In the 1940s when loads of these classic movies were made the term Film Noir wasn’t around in Hollywood. It was coined by a French critic who noticed the similarities within these movies and the term stuck. Some argue that Film Noir is not a genre but a state of mind. What’s the state of mind of many in the Rangers saga? Cognitive dissonance?

So Film Noir is seen as an accurate and widely used description these days. Seems like the opposite is true of the Old Firm.       


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