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Justshatered says: September 21, 2012 at 00:06 I believe the fact …

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justshatered says:
September 21, 2012 at 00:06
I believe the fact that they are with holding merchandising and TV money is SR and ND trying to fulfill their own prophecy of financial melt down by pushing at least one club into administration.
They will then use this as an excuse to bring league re-construction back into the spotlight.
It really is high time that somebody called these two clowns to account.
There is no reason why this money should not be paid.
This has been my own thought recently and was considering posting but you’ve stated it far more succinctly than I could (I tend to be verbose) so well done. I hope we can have some discussion on this rather than the side issue of the banner which is really a bit irrelevant.

The thing that puzzles me is why the SPL chairman are standing for it. Sure they may want to get TRFC shot up the divisions but why would they go along with a method of doing so that could seriously damage their own clubs?

Seems to me we need another ‘campaign’ like the one when they tried to drop newco into the SPL/Div 1 to email/write to all SPL boards asking why they are allowing this and risking their clubs’ futures.

PS Don’t mind being thought wrong in any of above as long as it’s explained why.

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iceman63 says:
September 27, 2012 at 16:00
I too doubt a conspiracy per se – i.e. one that can be proven and was organised by a single person or entity, , but there clearly has been an astonishing coalescence of interests which has led to a whole variety of separate investigations all being delayed sufficiently to allow a new dispensation and complete rewriting of any concepts of football club, or of liquidation of such prior to the investigations reporting.
Not so much a conspiracy as a shared mind-set perhaps?

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nowoldandgrumpy says:
September 24, 2012 at 18:04
Did anyone else notice in the draft agreement that the period of exclusion from European competition was scored through?
Didn’t but if it was, maybe because that isn’t really in the gift of the SFA at the moment (or for 3-4 years to come)?

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jmaclure says:
September 23, 2012 at 19:54
You know quite well what bring the fans in at Ibrox is “rallying to the cause” as the fans know if they don’t the new version of the club may go to the wall like the old one.

The price of STs for Ibrox while a good deal lower than what they’d pay for SPL is about average for the 1st division and higher than any 2nd or other 3rd division club charges. So price wise is a strategy that would fail for any other club.

They had to reduce it somewhat of course because a lot fans wouldn’t have worn it for div 3 – but only the “rallying to the cause” attitude (promoted in some dubious ways) brings them out in sufficient numbers to make it workable, short term anyway.

So to bring it together, you’re talking about a completely artificial, once in a life time (so far) situation, not anything that can be seriously described as a pricing strategy for any football team in normal circumstances, including Rangers if they found themselves stuck in div 3 another year.

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JIMBODECEMBER 19, 2017 at 16:17

Thing is, some folk – in fact many – can be smart and talented in one field but quite dumb when it comes to other fields.  Even university professors.  It’s all about what you bother to learn about and how you apply what you learn (and it can be affected by laziness, arrogance, prejudice and so on).

These folk get the attitude that because they know a lot about one thing they have an attitude that their expertise automatically transfers into other spheres of which they know very little.  Of course Lambert knows about football – about playing it and coaching, but he doesn’t know anything about what been going on in Scottish football these last couple of decades and no doubt has given no more than a very superficial effort into trying to find out. 

Who Is Conning Whom?
Just had a quick browse through sheepish fan forums.  Seems a general inclination to back McInnes.  Also seems that statement from Rangers will have been very helpful to McInnes in getting continued backing from AFC fans.

Who Is Conning Whom?


While I think you may be right about this, the question is how do you prove it and who will pursue it even if some proof is found
The Football authorities will be unwilling and the thing is Rangers have always been able to “tap” people they want without using the usual under the table methods.  They have the whole SMSM to do that for them.  
My own feeling is while McInnes may have been a wished for target they may have already decided they can’t afford him, however the process has undermined a key opponent.  An official approach (one in which apparently they were unwilling to upfront the money as required) can be seen as them justifying what they did retrospectively. 
They may even believe there’s an outside chance with the SMSM help they can force Aberdeen to drop their demand for all the money upfront and that McInnes will jump ship.  But their main object will already have been achieved regardless.

Who Is Conning Whom?
Could this refusal by Aberdeen be not down to annoyance at TRanger’s unsettling their manager but due to TRangers’ being unwilling to show evidence of of ability/willingness to pay the compensation due.  (E.g. put all or large part of money due into 3rd party account??)

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@ JOHN CLARKNOVEMBER 8, 2017 at 11:22
I must really add that while what you are saying is absolutely true your particular emphasis seems to suggest that the BBC is reliable outside of football reporting.  I may be quite mistaken, if so apologies.  But I think it’s worth saying here that the BBC (and other media outlets) are very much establishment biased and not just in sport. 

For instance there’s a  bit of a rammy just about tax evaders in the MSM but this will pass quickly and the media will move on to other things.  On the other hand every week for years not only do you regularly see stuff about benefit cheats there are whole TV programs appearing about them creating the impression it is a massive problem when in fact the figure estimated by government for this is about 2% of those claiming benefits – and in fact many for various reasons don’t get benefits they are honestly due.   

Now if the papers had been filled every day for years with articles criticising tax dodgers and there was a weekly TV program on folk dodging tax I bet government might feel pressure to do more about it.  However the MSM know they can get away with brief attacks on the powerful creating the impression of even handedness when over a longer period they are anything but.  

I’d better stop here as I’m wandering way off-topic. 
Apologies if I bored some of you.  But to try to tie it to on-topic, don’t just think the pro-Ibrox bias is a purely a football thing, it’s part of a more general attitude in the MSM.

BTW JohnJames site has …well … a rant on this. Has a real go at the BBC.

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