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Wottpi it may have been a relatively quiet day on here, but sadly not for me elsewhere! Just managed to get back on and catch up on the day’s activity. Thanks all for comments provided on my post earlier today.

As far as being afraid of having an open discussion….actually no this is all starting to sound very confrontational! I’ll start again.

I believe your question is to how I and / or other Rangers fans see the “situation” (a very all encompassing word in this case!) at Ibrox panning out. One reason I haven’t been drawn too much on this question is because it is so difficult to answer with so little knowledge as I have of what actually goes on behind the scenes at Ibrox.

I have no idea how its going to pan out. I see no inherent reason as to why Rangers can’t build not only a sustainable business but a thriving one. I’m extremely annoyed that money raised in the IPO and in two full years worth of season ticket sales appears to have been almost completely frittered away with precious little to show for it. I feel like an outstanding opportunity was missed a year and a half ago to build a team capable of progressing through the first couple of divisions, at relatively little cost, based around young players being brought through. I’d far rather it had taken five or six years to get to the top league (struggle to remember what it is called today) but have a thriving young team when we got there, with cash to spare, than get there in three having spent all our money on a squad with limited resale value and seems to be populated with mercenaries.

And further, I get frustrated with Rangers fans, and come to think of it fans of other clubs on here in equal measure, ridiculing match performances from Rangers consistently. Currently a League 1 (correct?!) side, top of the league by a mile, and yet its not good enough. Cause we’re not just a League 1 side, we’re Rangers, and it is that attitude from both friend and foe which has helped to encourage the powers that be to spend their way into the trouble we’re in now. Again.

So how do I see it all playing out? The only knowledge I have of the detail of the behind the scenes finances at Ibrox is what I have gleaned from speculation on here. I think it is safe to say it is not rosy. If we manage to come through this presently, and if Mr Wallace is as sensible as he seems, I would like to think that lessons will have been learned but on experience of recent years I’m skeptical of that. I don’t know about mooted sale and leaseback of Ibrox ideas as have been the source of much speculation here, but to be perfectly frank in that scenario I’d rather ditch Ibrox than be held to ransom by profiteering city boys. Let them sell it to Tesco for whatever they can get for it. Then we’ll have a share issue and buy it cheap from Tesco, you can always get a bargain there. Where’s the tongue in cheek icon…?

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Exiled Celt I couldn’t agree with you more, clearly I don’t mind reading anti rangers messages or I wouldn’t be here 😆 As I said, I wasn’t getting offended, I was merely discussing your point about advertising / season ticket sales.

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ExiledCelt, I did not mean to appear to be accusing you of saying all rangers fans were gullible, didn’t mean that at all. I was just expanding on a point you raised. And you and ClusterOne both highlighted an inaccuracy in what I said- think it was the highest attendance on the Saturday.

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ExiledCelt I think there is probably some truth in what you say, but I don’t think it is as simple as rangers fans being as gullible as you make them out to be, although no doubt some are and will enjoy reading the scenarios you laid out. I think however a lot more will be to do with the dedication of a hardcore of the rangers support, which has been underestimated before here. There’s probably c. 30k season tickets will be sold no matter what, in my completely off the top of the head estimation. Less than that I would put down to protest, more than that would be due to genuinely good news emerging or being duped by false promises. But either way, I do suspect that around about 30k season tickets would be sold without a lot of difficulty. Whether that is enough to keep the show on the road is a different question altogether.

It’s difficult for me to look at some of the statements made here and know what to make of them. It seems to be at times there are equal parts mockery of rangers fans for being gullible enough to keep handing cash to spins and equal parts mockery of rangers fans for not backing their team strongly enough with sneering quotes of 20k attendances at cup games. The words rock and hard place spring to mind. I for one think it is admirable that even admidst all the rumours circulating at the moment rangers fans contributed to the highest attended game in Scotland at the weekend at Somerset park.

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”Now on what is objectionable to others: songs that are inward celebrating might cause offence to others but they are the ones taking offence, it is not being offered to or aimed at them. It is something intolerant in them that sparks the offence taken.”

By your criteria above, it would be perfectly acceptable for a group of fans to turn up at a football ground singing “Ode to Isis” and as long as it was inward looking, it would be the fault of the rest of the crowd if they were offended. 

I usually read your posts with interest and respect your views, but I find this stance ridiculous. 

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Upthehoops, thanks for your response. I’ve recognised my club’s weaknesses on here many times, but the justification given for support of clubs in Europe here is always that they are the Scottish representatives, which Rangers were. You can’t claim (and I don’t mean you particularly) to support the Scottish representatives but then exclude some because they aren’t financially well managed. Rangers mk II have been run at a loss but have broken no rules, and are not the first club in Scotland or in Europe to have been run at a loss. Again, I have been a vocal critic on here of the Rangers administration, but if people are on here claiming to support the Scottish representatives but making an exception for Rangers then I say they are hypocrites. 

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Jimbo you were not as vocal in your support for Scottish representation in Europe when Rangers were (briefly) involved. Neither was anyone else here, somewhat disappointingly. 

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