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Does this court decision mean that they considers CF’s material …

Comment on Podcast Episode 1 by Allyjambo.

Does this court decision mean that they considers CF’s material genuine? If so, some people inside Hampden must be a wee bit worried. Will the SMSM go after them about some of the revelations, such as the dinner with Craig Whyte?

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torrejohnbhoy(@johnbhoy1958) says:

February 24, 2014 at 5:10 pm

What’s to stop RIFC loaning the cash to TRFC at a 30% premium over the same 6 months,thus stripping the club of another £150k?.
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And as a private company there’s probably no requirement for them to make internal loan details public, until next years TRFC accounts are published!


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“The principal amounts of the Facilities are repayable no later than 1 September 2014 from a variety of potential sources.”

While the payment of the premium to Laxeys will be in cash, or shares, at Laxeys discretion, the repayment of the premiums, in each case, is even less clear – ‘from a variety of potential sources’. A bit of a change from the announcement a few days ago where it was made out that repayment would be made in full by shares in RIFC. Could mean that by 1 September they have to fork out £1.650m to clear this debt, with neither lender interested in shares.


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john clarke says:

February 23, 2014 at 12:05 pm

Reflecting my thoughts exactly when I read the comments and they should be worrying more, from a TRFC point of view, that seemingly intelligent bears can be so relaxed about such a serious situation. They still seem unable to grasp that, while the £1.5m loan (should it materialise) might be repaid by shares, the loan itself will be to RIFC, who will then lend a similar amount it to TRFC. So, regardless of how it works for RIFC, TRFC will still owe the money, and repayment for that will have to be made in cash! I am not of the opinion that RIFC will sell TRFC for a pound, regardless of any sale and lease-back of Ibrox etc, I suspect that, over and above any rent, RIFC will want every penny owed to them repaid by whoever takes over the club. And that debt is growing.


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StevieBC 8th May 2020 at 12:54

I think your point was addressed in page 2 of the SPFL letter, Stevie, (sorry, can't copy and paste it) in the paragraph that begins, 'Several of us have also been asked…' where it ends by saying that they can't comment until after the EGM, which I think would naturally be the case.

Can I say that the SPFL board do not seem to have missed TRFC, and in particular Stewart Robertson, and hit the wall. It is also clear from the paragraph I refer to that some of the clubs, at least, share our view that TRFC's actions are/were 'bringing the game into disrepute'. There appears to be genuine anger within the ranks of the SPFL, though it looks like Robertson has been set up to be the sacrificial lamb (or lump under the carpet) and may be used to deflect the full repercussions from the club he was acting on behalf of. 


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incredibleadamspark 8th May 2020 at 11:49 Allyjambo, all that’s a possible for sure but I just feel that for some fans it doesn’t matter if you wear the green and grey hoops or an orange away top you will fit your views around certain events in Scottish football to suit predetermined opinions/conspiracies. Scottish football is facing an uncertain future, as is our society, and the way Rangers have went about things has been an absolute embarrassment. I just can not see what they are hoping to achieve. Stay safe.

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I agree that many/most supporters of all clubs (even ones who conflate grey with white) form their opinions around whatever suits their argument, it is more or less the same in every aspect of life, but as you say, TRFC's vindictive attempt at achieving goodness knows what is an absolute embarrassment, especially to thinking bears; and Celtic, whether through integrity or just having smarter people at the top, are extremely unlikely to ever make such a pig's ear of trying to 'encourage' others to facilitate their required outcome.

Hope you stay safe, too.


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incredibleadamspark 8th May 2020 at 10:38

While Celtic may well have done their level best to ensure TRFC were not handed the league title I very much doubt they'd have come up with the amateurish 'dossier' type 'evidence' that TRFC have produced. For one thing, they wouldn't have had to try too hard to come up with some sort of leverage, such as Resolution12, or even threaten, privately, to raise the good old secret 5 Way Agreement. 

I'm pretty certain that Celtic could, if they so wished, end the Great Lie and finish off, not only TRFC, but also all those who aided and abetted them while involved in the game's governance in 2012 and for some time before and after. They could also just threaten to raise Financial Fair Play with UEFA showing how TRFC signed players they couldn't afford (even after they'd posted such disastrous, touch and go UEFA compliant, Accounts) that enabled them to go so far in the UEFA Cup.

It certainly appears that Celtic have little to fear from TRFC's vindictiveness in terms of honesty and rule breaking, while the opposite is true the other way round, which is why they, TRFC, have had to go after their erstwhile friends at Hampden.


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Is there any posters on here that think TRFC's long awaited 'Dossier' was worth the wait, or does everyone agree that every doubt expressed as to the likelihood of it containing any 'smoking gun' evidence was right on the money?

I've not read it, and never will, but every critique I've read so far makes it clear that no one has found anything in it that should worry the two named SPFL board members, or anyone else involved (other than Stewart Robertson, TRFC's own man) and that it's nothing more than, at best, a list of questions to be answered, if anyone has the time.

Most notably, the distinct lack of any suggestion of 'bullying', far and away the most serious of the 'leaked' allegations, appears to be missing.

I have to say, though, that in my distrust of the game's governors I am a tad disappointed in it's patheticness*, as a can of worms once opened is very difficult to close, allowing more worms out that may at first have been sought. Anyone else feel the same way?

*Not an actual word, maybe, but then TRFC are not actually the club they claim to be either, so it's alright, see!


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Tweet from Graham Spiers

"Key part of Rangers’ accusatory statement of April 11: “bullying”. That is a very serious allegation about #SPFL governance. I’m wading through this RFC “dossier” trying to find evidence of “bullying” but haven’t found it yet. But give it time."

I'm sure page 200 will provide the smoking gun and it will take some time for all who have the dossier to reach mail


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