Podcast Episode 2 – Stuart Cosgrove

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Podcast Episode 2 – Stuart Cosgrove

SFM PodcastOur latest podcast features Big Pink chatting to Stuart Cosgrove.
The discussion focuses on the role and impact of social media in sport, but also includes Fair Play, Leadership, Interdependence, Rangers, Celtic, St. Johnstone, Forgiveness – and Bruce Springsteen!

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308 Comments so far

smugasPosted on4:23 pm - Feb 27, 2014


a, b, d and e.

Add “as is” to c then include with the above

g. As if they’re going to come up with a plan. They’ll do what they’re telt (quote W Smith I believe)

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scottcPosted on4:30 pm - Feb 27, 2014


jean7brodie says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 16:20

Glad you enjoyed the break jean. 🙂 It can be tortuous sitting through a court case. That’s why lawyers are all joyoous and carefree when they are away from work. No, wait … hold on

Barvo to you and John and any other TSFM bod who has been through. I’m going to go sometime next week hopefully.

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beeanosPosted on4:31 pm - Feb 27, 2014


So the King returns to play his ace.

Seems like a bit of a choice between frying pan and fire for the fans.

All of the old rhetoric present though, back to where we want to be, stop Celtic getting 10 in a row, club not currently sustainable and needs substantial cash injection.

The Union of Fans statement is interesting but its far far too late. That is what they should have been doing years ago instead of lapping up Charles Green’s nonsense. The position they are in now will take a lot more time and money to sort out.

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scottcPosted on4:32 pm - Feb 27, 2014


It sucks not having the edit facility. Looking forward to going home

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allyjamboPosted on4:32 pm - Feb 27, 2014


jean7brodie says:

Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 16:20

Terrific effort, Jean, JC will be proud of his apprentice 😉

I was thinking that today would be a blank for us all with regards to the UTTT, but you have carried on the proud tradition of TSFM and kept the blog ahead of the MSM, even if they do manage to make some kind of report. You can now take the honorary title of ‘Scoop’ Brodie, or if you prefer, ‘Scoop7’ 😉

Well done, and many thanks.

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Carl31Posted on4:50 pm - Feb 27, 2014


In all seriousness, I can have only respect for a fans group that wants to get together to wrest control if its club. I also cant help but have a degree of sympathy.

But…
One question that immediately came to mind reading the statement of the Rangers fan groups:
This opportunity to raise investment for the club was there at the IPO. Where was this investment of Dave King and the fans?
Should this capital investment not have been raised then? If it had been then this group, given that DK cant head it and own the club due to being restricted as a director under insolvency rules on phoenixing, would have control of the club currently.

There is also apparent the sugar daddy complex behind this. Its almost as though they cant think in any other way of how the club must be run. Someone with loads of money must plough it into the loss making business to get it to and keep it ‘where it belongs’. This sense of entitlement is undoubtedly feeding the strong sense of injustice.

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manandboyPosted on4:58 pm - Feb 27, 2014


jean7brodie says: Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 16:20

On the UTTT – I would love to go
but I think the strain would be too much
and I could be visiting the Divorce Court soon after.

You are very lucky Jean7 .

And well done! – a most able deputy for JC.

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y4rmyPosted on4:59 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Richard Wilson’s erm…story in the Herald mentioned that Dave King would lead a group of “like-minded high net worth Rangers’ fans”. No names mentioned though. Who are they and where have they been all this time? It’s easy to scoff. So I will.

There’s also little discussion of how “spending above our means” can be squared with the new Financial FairPlay Rules that every football association is supposed to be implementing.

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ianagainPosted on5:02 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Find two things about DK over and over.
He definitely is Rangers daft. Posted on RTC ages ago about a late night conversation I and my gets pal had with him.
What I therefore find very strange knowing what he like why he got there jeebies after the bus garage meeting, something wrong there.

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wottpiPosted on5:10 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Carl31 says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 16:50

The reason the fans (and indeed anybody else with an interest in keeping a football club running) didn’t want to buy the club was because as Bill Miller’s pal Jon Pritchett pointed out it is a money pit.

The 40k fans and Ibrox combined with a need to be top dog is as much a burden as it is an opportunity.

Fans controlling clubs the size of Dunfermline, Dundee, Hearts etc is just about do-able and even then you need an Ann Budge or Tom Farmer type to put up a degree of cash.

Other than that, give the history of club ownership in Scotland and the UK, fans taking over a large club and running it in a Barca type fashion is a huge ask. A sugar daddy with deep pockets of some sort is definetly required. King’s soft loan proposal is the reality of the situation and there is not gaurentee that such approach would bring success on the park as the pit could just get larger and larger.

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blindsummit63Posted on5:14 pm - Feb 27, 2014


The “Rangers” fans may at last appear to be uniting to achieve a common goal, but in my humble opinion this is only because they fear not being all conquering, not because they have a sudden desire to see a well run club, living within it’s means and contributing to Scottish Football as a equal partner.

Nope the only thing that gets the wind up them is the thought that their return to total dominance might not happen. They have woken up to that at last having supped on the effluent coming out of Ibrox since Sevco were formed.

Dominance, arrogance, superiority are their raison d’etre, not football.

A pox on them and their “big house”. My “diddy” club (Hibernian) does not need them, want them and have no desire to be their stepping stone once again.

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ecobhoyPosted on5:36 pm - Feb 27, 2014


jean7brodie says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 16:20

Excellent effort – Very brave to step into John’s shoes and I don’t think I would even attempt it 🙂

I bet your head was buzzin by the time you managed to escape and then it would be followed by a dull headache – don’t worry because a copious application of a beverage of your choice will soon fix that!

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jean7brodiePosted on5:42 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Thanks to all for your very fine comments on my attempt at a report on the UTT. I have taken Ecobhoy’s advice and have a small cerveza in hand!

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troubledfanPosted on5:45 pm - Feb 27, 2014


“Delboy” Davey King recently coughed over £40 + million realities to the competent south African tax men,,, no ?. despite our incompetent msm claims, we know delboys massive estimated fortune ( reckoned to be, insert 3 , 4, 5 , numbers followed by a squillion zero,s ) in reality is all on paper…. in realty: he,s skint ! ….
Heeee , wants to lead an investment/fund raising drive.
Heeee wants the peepel to put their ST money into his…. er I mean a bank accou… er I mean a trust fund to blahblah (insert whatever).. mmmmmm..
In reality ,,, the “King” of spivs is making his move to aquire some working capital cos ripping people off costs money……

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parttimearabPosted on6:15 pm - Feb 27, 2014


andy graham (@andygraham66) says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 14:10
Following a meeting of The Union of Fans that currently comprises representatives of the following fan groups –
“We have already had preliminary and productive discussions with respected figureheads for such a trust ”
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Do I hear the rustle of a cardigan and the shuffle of brogues……..

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Danish PastryPosted on6:19 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Sounds fascinating Jean. Thanks. You too echobhoy, great stuff.

In other sports news, Scotland get top billing in The Daily Mash 😀

They’re a team but also lonely
The strip was launched on Wednesday to a fanfare of jangly guitars and a maudlin rendition of Lloyd, I’m Ready To Be Heartbroken by Camera Obscura.

As well as a pink and yellow hooped shirt and socks, Scottish players will also be issued with an anorak, a pair of thick-rimmed glasses held together with Sellotape, and a dream journal.

An SFA spokesman said: “From The Pastels to BMX Bandits to Belle & Sebastian, Scotland has long been a global leader in wistful disappointment, thanks to our natural abundance of sexless, pasty-faced introverts.

“This kit stands for being obsessed with a girl who doesn’t know you exist, walking through the rain feeling melancholy but strangely uplifted, and writing excruciating love poetry well into your twenties.

“It’s just what you’d expect from the nation that gave the world Teenage Fanclub, Dogs Die In Hot Cars, and Pat Nevin.”

The shirt, available in all sizes from S to XXXS, is made from high-tech microfibres that absorb, reflect and magnify the wearer’s crippling self-doubt.

It should ideally be viewed in Kelvingrove Park in the early autumn sunshine, but kit manufacturer Adidas has reassured fans that it can also be enjoyed through the viewfinder of a Super 8 camera.

Self-declared ‘bowlie kid’ Wayne Hayes said: “It’s not knitted, which is ridiculous. Frankly I preferred their early stuff.”

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smartie1947Posted on6:23 pm - Feb 27, 2014


A real football story told by Tommy Docherty at today’s funeral service for Sir Tom Finney.
Docherty played wing-half for several years behind Finney at Preston. After Docherty’s first cap for Scotland against an England side, including Finney. he found out Preston were paying Finney £14 per week, summer and winter. Narked that he, Docherty, was only receiving £10 per week in the winter and £8 per week in the summer, he marched into Deepdale the following Monday, intent on taking up this anomaly with the chairman as a matter of urgency. Collared by the manager, who feared potential trouble, Docherty insisted the club paid him the same as Finney. Trying a conciliatory approach, the manager said “but Tommy, Finney’s a far better player than you”
Docherty’s response – “Not in the summer he’s not ! “

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parttimearabPosted on6:43 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Meanwhile down at the Rangers Standard Stewart Franklin asks a question of Dave King that (rather belatedly) gets to the nub of the problem…

“How can you turn Rangers into a profitable business where others have failed? ”

http://www.therangersstandard.co.uk/index.php/articles/current-affairs/313-the-battle-for-rangers-the-120-day-war?

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allyjamboPosted on6:49 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Thanks to easyJambo for giving us a flavour of the proceedings, another great report from one of TSFM’s finest 😉

The impression given so far is that the ‘majority’ judges were asleep during most of the FTTT, and understandably so from what you tell us of todays proceedings 🙂

A great effort, easy, and looking forward to more if you can make it along next week.

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parttimearabPosted on6:50 pm - Feb 27, 2014


If not linked before (apologies if it has) Phil’s latest

http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/the-king-across-the-water-2/#more-4409

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jean7brodiePosted on6:59 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Hi easyjambo,
Great to meet you today. Your report is spot on and congratulations and thanks for that.
Lang may your lum reek!

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allyjamboPosted on7:03 pm - Feb 27, 2014


parttimearab says:

Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 18:43

That’s just about the best written and most informed article I’ve read by a ‘Rangers man’ since first reading about the Rangers Tax Case, nearly three years ago! As he said himself, he doesn’t have any answers, but at least he knows (some of) the questions that need to be answered! A small step for a bear, a giant step for Sevkind!

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iamacant (@iamacant)Posted on7:40 pm - Feb 27, 2014


easyJambo says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 18:23

In the last hour they moved onto the “brown envelope” which was given to Mrs Orchard (worked for Trident, the latter trustee of the EBT scheme). The envelope contained Board minutes where payments into the scheme were authorised and lists of eligible personnel were listed.
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Is that the occasion where the worlds greatest administrator drove to the airport to pick her up and hand her the brown envelope or am I mixing this up with some other occasion?

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iamacant (@iamacant)Posted on7:43 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Forgot to add thanks to JC, Jean and easyjambo for their excellent contributions informing us of the details at the hearing. “doffshatsmiley”

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fisianiPosted on7:53 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Finally the Bears are waking and smelling the coffee. The Spivs bland assurances are no longer believed. No one has any plan to make the club profitable. No one. If it is not profitable then it loses money.It has no credit facilities. The senior Deloittes man from London is in Glasgow today. Wallace is looking for potential administrators. Administrators need to be paid. Thank goodness 1,200,000 arrived last week. Just about enough to pay an administrator. I give them less than a week.

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wottpiPosted on7:54 pm - Feb 27, 2014


MESSAGE To Rangers Supporters From Graham Wallace

Rangers Chief Executive Graham Wallace has issued the following statement.

“In recent days there has been considerable comment and speculation about the financial position of the Club and the motives of individuals managing it following the announcement of short term financing being put in place.

“Much of the comment and opinion is unfortunately ill informed and directed at undermining the Club and the considerable efforts that are taking place to rebuild it following several years of mismanagement.

“Therefore, I feel it is important, for the good of the Club, to set the record straight on a number of issues that are concerning Rangers supporters worldwide.

“Many of the problems that the Board, Executive Team and staff are addressing on a daily basis date back some considerable time and as I said at the AGM in December 2013, there is no overnight fix.

“Building trust in those managing the Club takes time. I understand that fans have a degree of scepticism, but we will demonstrate in due course the improvements being made to all areas of the Club.

“Rangers supporters are naturally seeking assurances that their Club is being run and managed for the long term. We know there are short term financial challenges inherited from previous management, but we are well on track to putting these behind us and building a Club that is both sustainable and capable of delivering the on field success that Rangers is famous for.

“It is therefore extremely concerning that public statements are being made that are factually incorrect. If left unchallenged, they would damage the reputation of the Club and individuals who are committed and working every day to rebuild it.

“It has now been some 70 days since the AGM and our review of the entire business is progressing well. We are identifying the changes needed to reposition the Club on all fronts. No one is hiding behind a timeline to complete the review, but to develop and implement change in the correct manner requires time to get it right.

“Of particular concern are media comments that the Club has been offered significant interest free loans which have been declined. This is wholly untrue and supporters need to know this.

“Further comment about withholding future ticket revenues is also damaging to the operation of the Club which, in common with many others, operates on a cyclical basis.

“We are putting in place a business structure and operational model that will protect and develop Rangers Football Club for future generations.

“We know the Club will require investment in the future but until we have addressed the problems and deficiencies of the past, it would be foolhardy to seek additional investment without a clear plan of how to use it. We are also making good progress on the development of our medium term plans.

“You, the fans have been tremendous in your support for the team over the past couple of seasons. As I outlined at the AGM, a process of improving fan engagement has commenced with the launch of the Club’s Ready To Listen campaign. This initiative has been welcomed by a great number of supporters and the results will be analysed and actions implemented in the near future.

“The Board and Executive Team fully understand how important the fans are to the Club and we will never take this for granted. I made a personal commitment at the AGM to improve fan engagement and we have started on this process.

“The values Rangers Football Club is famous for, and proud to honour, include professionalism, integrity and honesty. Everyone involved with the Club shares these values and is working hard every day to ensure that the Club will continue to progress back to the top of Scottish and European football.

“We need to do this together. Divisive campaigns, fuelled by inaccurate statements played out in the media benefit no one, particularly Rangers Football Club.”

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chancer67Posted on8:01 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Mr McMurdo is on a mission,he just put this on his blog
http://billmcmurdo.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/dave-king-north-gauteng-high-court.pdf

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smugasPosted on8:20 pm - Feb 27, 2014


He was doing so well, right up to the honesty and integrity bit which opened a massive door for him, and he chose to just walk on by.

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resin_lab_dogPosted on8:24 pm - Feb 27, 2014


allyjambo says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 19:03

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parttimearab says:

Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 18:43

That’s just about the best written and most informed article I’ve read by a ‘Rangers man’ since first reading about the Rangers Tax Case, nearly three years ago! As he said himself, he doesn’t have any answers, but at least he knows (some of) the questions that need to be answered! A small step for a bear, a giant step for Sevkind!

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Light is certainly finally dawning for some bears.
Unfortunately for them, I wouldn’t bet against said light being that of an oncoming train!
choo choo!

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ekt1mPosted on8:25 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Many Thanks to Jean7Brodie and Easyjambo for their sterling work at the UTT today. As has been said in their reports that it can be hard going listening and writing notes, may I suggest that if possible that one person take on the morning session and another the afternoon session. I recognise that East Coast residents are better placed to attend than others and have our thanks for what can be a time consuming effort.

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easyJamboPosted on8:46 pm - Feb 27, 2014


iamacant (@iamacant) says: Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 19:40

Is that the occasion where the worlds greatest administrator drove to the airport to pick her up and hand her the brown envelope or am I mixing this up with some other occasion?
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It was Ian McMillan himself who picked her up at the airport.

I think we have another candidate for the “glib and shameless liar” of the year award. 🙂

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paulonotiniPosted on8:56 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Ecobhoy at 3.40
Have a look again at the address & the map shown.

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parttimearabPosted on8:57 pm - Feb 27, 2014


wottpi says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 19:54
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MESSAGE To Rangers Supporters From Graham Wallace
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Well doubtless Graham will have used this opportunity to counter the questions raised by Dave King?

1. Will the board provide legally binding assurances that the club is a going concern and has sufficient funds and/or facilities in place for the 2014/2015 season.
[Nope]

2. Will the board undertake that none of the proceeds from season ticket sales will be used to settle any financial obligation that arose prior to receipt of the season ticket monies by the club.
[Nope]

3. Will the board confirm that the club assets continue to be unencumbered.
[Nope]

4. Will the board explain its previous statements that the club had sufficient cash resources to last until the end of the season.
[and finally…have you guessed…Nope]

I have to say I love a good non denial…

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madbhoy24941Posted on8:58 pm - Feb 27, 2014


“The values Rangers Football Club is famous for, and proud to honour, include professionalism, integrity and honesty. Everyone involved with the Club shares these values and is working hard every day to ensure that the Club will continue to progress back to the top of Scottish and European football”
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha……

Oh please stop, my sides are sore….

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madbhoy24941Posted on9:01 pm - Feb 27, 2014


I didn’t do a Word Count on the latest statement but I have to say, considering all the open questions, some of which are very easy to answer, have you ever seen a statement that long which says absolutely nothing other than “trust us”?

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allyjamboPosted on9:19 pm - Feb 27, 2014


wottpi says:

Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 19:54

Well, the bears will sleep soundly in their beds tonight. Mr Wallace has responded with powerful rhetoric to every concern the TRFC supporters are voicing, well he’s made responses to some of them, and at least one is quite categoric when he very forcefully refutes the claims in the media that the board (is that the RIFC board, or the TRFC one?) have turned down interest free loans. That must be very reassuring for the supporters, to know that nobody has offered them interest free loans, or even low interest loans, or that they can’t find anybody outside the board prepared to give them any loan, at any rate! It’ll come as a surprise to them to learn that the (King’s) call for the withholding of ST moneys doesn’t help the club as they all probably thought it would help keep banking costs down! Hey, but they’re having a ‘Ready to Listen’ campaign. That’ll make all the difference, orange away strips next season, it is then. I bet all you Celtic supporters are jealous now, if only your board would listen to you, you’d have Messi and Ronaldo next season, along with the CL anthem. And they’re 70 days into the review, and have identified problem areas, who’d a thunk it?

And most reassuring of all, they’ve ignored the fears of administration, even liquidation, and haven’t considered it necessary to mention the current state of their bank account, so we can all take it that everything is hunky dorey there… and that it’s got nothing to do with the fact they don’t dare stretch the slack the AIM authorities appear to be giving them by making falsely optimistic announcements.

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iamacant (@iamacant)Posted on9:31 pm - Feb 27, 2014


“We know the Club will require investment in the future but until we have addressed the problems and deficiencies of the past, it would be foolhardy to seek additional investment without a clear plan of how to use it. We are also making good progress on the development of our medium term plans”

Is the above quote from GW statement code for give us the ST money asap so we know how much we can share between us at the inaugural ball at a French chateau?

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John ClarkPosted on9:36 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Danish Pastry says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 11:18
‘..What merits the special status of the four? Anyone? ‘
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To be scrupulously fair, DP, I think the (non-HMRC ) witnesses could not legally be compelled to give evidence at the FTTT, but were prepared to do so if they were guaranteed anonymity. Not sure how many exactly, perhaps three.
Since I was not sure myself which of the names mentioned by Mr T might have been the ones that were to remain anonymous ( although some were in the public domain, as Judge Bishopp recognised) I thought it proper not to mention any names other than any I knew to be already publicly known, and just randomly used alpha letters.

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CastofthousandsPosted on9:43 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Buttered or sweet?

Let me mull it over awhile.

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neepheidPosted on9:43 pm - Feb 27, 2014


The Wallace statement just confirms for me that in business terms he is a lightweight, and that he is totally out of his depth in the Ibrox snakepit. Loads of words to say nothing- why not take the opportunity to answer King’s questions? The fact that he doesn’t confirm that the properties are unencumbered, for example, just invites the conclusion that they are, in fact, encumbered. To my simple way of thinking, anyway.

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essexbeancounteressexbeancounterPosted on9:44 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Regarding the “senior” partner from Deloittes arriving in Glasgow today…his mission I assume would be threefold:
1) Missionary work in the provinces
2) Confirming a price for any pre-pack administration
3) laying down the law unequivocally, that under no circumstances, repeat no circumstances, would the accounts of TRFC be signed off…let alone for timeous lodgement with Companies House (Deloittes reputation has already been sullied by the antics of TRFC since “that” IPO…!

As I said a little while ago, watch what happens next week…nae accounts filed…?….nae worries…wee arra peepul…!

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TommyPosted on9:45 pm - Feb 27, 2014


“inaccurate statements”

Wallace previously used these words to rebut Phil’s article a couple of weeks ago. Notice that Wallace does not state that the statements are untrue – just that they are not spot on. It could be that matters are even far worse than King suggests, thus making his accusations “inaccurate”.

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jean7brodiePosted on10:05 pm - Feb 27, 2014


ekt1m says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 20:25

…I recognise that East Coast residents are better placed to attend than others and have our thanks for what can be a time consuming effort.
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Thanks for your comments ek. I am West Coast based, the lovely Monklands , and it is both time consuming and expensive to get to the Tribunal at peak times.
However, I was genunely happy to do this ‘chore’ and offer it up for the prospect of a fair outcome!!!

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John ClarkPosted on10:09 pm - Feb 27, 2014


jean7brodie says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 16:20

easyJambo says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 18:23

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I’m sorry I missed the opportunity to meet you guys and the other TSFM folk.
Your reports make it easy for me to pick up tomorrow, for which I am very grateful.Well done to the both of you.
I don’t know whether you share my view that Lord Doherty ( like , in my view, Lord Hodge) is nothing if not diligent in making sure he is clear about what Mr T’s detailed points are, and the references he relies on.

The impression I get is that he is determined to make sure that HIS findings of fact cannot be criticised or faulted at any further appeal, whatever the ultimate decision!

I was in Wetherspoons on George St at lunchtime and felt a very strong, almost irresistible urge to drag my pals along to the Tribunal room! But lamb rogan josh (?) and a pint of Deuchars for £6.99 held me back!

My Glaswegian pals hardly noticed, or, like the First Tier majority, completely disregarded the evidence plainly in front of them in St Andrew Square that there are trams on the street in Edinburgh, and made no findings of fact. Happily for them, the disregarded evidence didn’t move when they were crossing the tram tracks!

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ianagainPosted on10:15 pm - Feb 27, 2014


am I here at last?

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sanoffymessssoitizzhizzemdyfonedrapolisPosted on10:17 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Danish Pastry says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 11:18
‘..What merits the special status of the four? Anyone? ‘
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john clarke says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 21:36

To be scrupulously fair, DP, I think the (non-HMRC ) witnesses could not legally be compelled to give evidence at the FTTT, but were prepared to do so if they were guaranteed anonymity. Not sure how many exactly, perhaps three.

– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
Tribunal: Judge Colin Bishopp
Sitting in Edinburgh on 19 July 2013

After hearing Mr Andrew Thornhill QC, Mr Jonathan Bremner and Mr Thomas Chacko, counsel, for the respondents in the Upper Tribunal and appellants in the First-tier Tribunal, and Mr Roderick Thomson QC for the appellants in the Upper Tribunal and respondents in the First-tier Tribunal

It is directed that:

1. The appeal to the Upper Tribunal of the Commissioners for Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs (“HMRC”) shall proceed in accordance with the following directions;

2. All further hearings in these appeals, whether before the Upper Tribunal or the First-tier Tribunal, shall be in public, and no decisions shall be anonymised or redacted, save that

(a) the names of the HMRC officers who gave evidence to the First-tier Tribunal shall not be made public;

(b) the names of those other witnesses who were not compellable and who gave evidence to the First-tier Tribunal after having been assured of anonymity shall not be made public;

(c) the parties have permission to apply for variation of this part of this direction.

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jean7brodiePosted on10:21 pm - Feb 27, 2014


john clarke says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 22:09
Hi John
Glad you enjoyed your lunch, you deserve it a million times over!!!
I agree that Lord D is very meticulous and good on him. He laboured over the page number, date, line number of documents etc and this is to be commended.
I hope to be back again soon but work commitments wil dictate when. (I’m supposed to be retired but it is proving hard as a good magistra is hard to find)

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ianagainPosted on10:21 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Well seems like.

Just a word on the podcast.

Stuart.

The two sides of the bench AND the judge agreed that the Charlotte tapes were “Ha HA Ha (from all sides) from a source we all can imagine. They were approved for use by email by Craig Whyte? Yes”

If that’s dubious I’ll challenge the judge to say he wasn’t laughing.

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paulsatimPosted on10:31 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Hi all, anyone got a largish black bar across bottom of their screen with “stop nsa surveillance” on it with link to a website. Only had it since we moved back to the older site.

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TSFMPosted on10:34 pm - Feb 27, 2014


New post by Audheid up …..

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ianagainPosted on10:37 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Another wee observation. I posted years back on RTC about DKs obvious fervour for Pretendygers in a late night session at Parklands and his straight forward sense of what he was owed he got.

Fair enough.

Why then when he was actually in the country the last time and after the “wee chat at the bus garage” he shot straight back to S.A. Only ever to appear again on these shores in MSM print?

Strange. Or is it?

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John ClarkPosted on10:44 pm - Feb 27, 2014


goosygoosy says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 15:50
‘….With RIFC money tap turned off, the club is in danger of not fulfilling its fixtures.’
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Are we the only ones to see this possibility? Has the SFA board got some emergency plan in place to prevent collapse into chaos? Where are Messrs Regan and Doncaster when they should be reassuring the football public that they know for a fact that RIFC is not currently trading insolvently, and will not be entering administration shamefully in only its second year of existence? ( Would that be a record?)

I submit that they are in a blue funk, having suddenly been made keenly conscious that their desperate measures to help the dead club, measures which encompassed the destruction of notions of Football (or any other) Integrity, have been rewarded by insult and ingratitude by those they tried to help, and have led to almost universal cynicism as regards their competence, their personal integrity, and their ability to find a way out of the mess they were complicit in creating, by their revolving- door connection with the dead club, and in sustaining, by their continuing connection with the dead club.

I think, and it is not wishful thinking, not what I necessarily want, that we are near the end. The new club will die, in its two-year old, one title, infancy.

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ianagainPosted on10:53 pm - Feb 27, 2014


John Clarke

Methinks also they are all hiding under the big bed at SFA towers with their fingers in their ears. Whereas the folk at Motherwell are wishing they would DO THEIR JOB and find a sponsor for the SPFL. The only league in Europe without one and the main reason for or published loss.

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ianagainPosted on10:53 pm - Feb 27, 2014


our

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RaymacPosted on10:58 pm - Feb 27, 2014


They let Charles Green call them all sorts of names. He should have been in court with some of the utterances. All of the so-called governing bodies in Scottish football were maligned in one way or another. The more he insulted them, the more they did for Newclub, and the more they bent over the more he went on. All of them deserve all they get.

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ianagainPosted on11:00 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Well Auldheid
Yons a belter
Well done.

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ianagainPosted on11:04 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Why comments closed on the letter to SFA TSFM?

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ianagainPosted on11:04 pm - Feb 27, 2014


I mean this is dynamite

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Cluster 0nePosted on11:05 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Blackthorn deal runs out tomorrow….i think
http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/rangers_announce_five_year_kit_deal_with_puma/

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TincksPosted on11:11 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Comments not enabled under Auldheid’s blog. So can I just here…….

Bravo

Also, a very big thank you to our intrepid team of court reporters. Fingers crossed the Judge can follow the arguments as well as guys obviously can.

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easyJamboPosted on11:13 pm - Feb 27, 2014


ianagain says: Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 23:04

I mean this is dynamite
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I’m thinking more of nuclear (copyright acknowledged)

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ianagainPosted on11:17 pm - Feb 27, 2014


easyJambo says:

Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 23:13ianagain says: Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 23:04

I mean this is dynamite
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I’m thinking more of nuclear (copyright acknowledged)
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Was that Goosy?
Whatever. Will the faceless ones respond?
I wonder.

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easyJamboPosted on11:20 pm - Feb 27, 2014


ianagain says: Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 23:17

easyJambo says:

Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 23:13ianagain says: Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 23:04

I mean this is dynamite
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I’m thinking more of nuclear (copyright acknowledged)
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Was that Goosy?
Whatever. Will the faceless ones respond?
I wonder.
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No I’m pretty sure it was Bacabhoy, but it turned out to have a dud fuse. 😉

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resin_lab_dogPosted on11:23 pm - Feb 27, 2014


paulsatim says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 22:31

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Hi all, anyone got a largish black bar across bottom of their screen with “stop nsa surveillance” on it with link to a website. Only had it since we moved back to the older site.

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Aye.
Haven’t clicked.

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paulsatimPosted on11:35 pm - Feb 27, 2014


resin_lab_dog says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 23:23

Phew, at least not just me! I did click on it and just takes you to a petition to sign.

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weescotsman17Posted on11:48 pm - Feb 27, 2014


I’ve got it as well……………. so that makes at least 3 of us. Not like a banner ad as such.

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myohmy1Posted on11:53 pm - Feb 27, 2014


Scottish Football: An Honest Game, Honestly Governed?
Great stuff Auldheid. Hopefully there’ll be a few sweaty collars on a few brass necks. More power to you.

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John ClarkPosted on11:55 pm - Feb 27, 2014


I think, Auldheid, this is where TSFM begins to be recognised as a representative body. McKenzie will ( if he has any sense) have to respond.And truthfully, even if asminimally so as he can get away with.
Well done.

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CastofthousandsPosted on12:07 am - Feb 28, 2014


Without knowing the content of annexes 1 to 10 it’s hard to discern the gravity of the correspondence. I trust full details will be posted in due course?

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AuldheidAuldheidPosted on12:19 am - Feb 28, 2014


Castofthousands says:

Friday, February 28, 2014 at 00:07

Yup. Good reasons for not doing so immediately (one ironically was in case it gave cause to have the blog pulled).

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Palacio67Posted on12:23 am - Feb 28, 2014


Well done Auldheid.

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AuldheidAuldheidPosted on12:25 am - Feb 28, 2014


john clarke says:

Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 23:55

This is were folks like you come in. There must be a follow up from others asking H&M or the clubs each support and/or the addresses what they intend to do about the letter and Annexes.

The other thing is to open the comments section to get that moving. Probably an oversight as TSFM has been very busy dealing with consequences of the DOS attack. 🙂

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StevieBCPosted on12:25 am - Feb 28, 2014


Well done to our ‘TSFM Court Reporters’.

And good job Auldheid: one would think that some sort of response will be forthcoming – because they must realise by now that this just ain’t going away!

That’s enough back-slapping for one day… 🙄

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bogsdolloxPosted on12:30 am - Feb 28, 2014


easyJambo says:
Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 18:23

The tribunal resumes at 9.30am tomorrow.

I won’t be free to go back until the middle of next week, which might be interesting as Andrew Thornhill should be defending the FTT outcome.

On a general point I found some periods pretty tedious as Roddy T rambled along ….. with his monotone voice …… which made it ever so easy to drift away…… as he repeated long bits from transcripted conversations at the FTT with various witnesses ……. and flipped from one binder of documents to another .…. so much so that one of his own legal team closed his eyes for ten minutes or so ….. then even Lord Doherty couldn’t conceal a yawn…….. get my drift?
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Dreary but vital that Roddy T makes the UTT take notice of the evidence glossed over by the FTT numpties.

Excellent reporting by yourself and Jean – when does Thornhill take the stage? I might pop through for his show as he’s quite a turn. Are youse allowed to take popcorn into the Court?

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parnnoyedPosted on12:54 am - Feb 28, 2014


“The values Rangers Football Club is famous for, and proud to honour, include professionalism, integrity and honesty. ”

Out of all the lies and deceit this must rank as the highest(sorry, lowest) they could stoop.

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