Podcast Episode 3 – David Low

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The withdrawal of the card facility must hurt (in addition …

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The withdrawal of the card facility must hurt (in addition to the embarrassment!). Had it continued, they’d probably still have benefitted from many auto renewals, simply down to the law of inertia if nothing else. You’d have to be actively pro-Dave King to cancel an auto renewal, I reckon.

Now they don’t even get income from those. Even with the pleas and the guilt trips, I can’t see many paying cash for a full season ticket – much easier just to pay as you go.

With no income then, is the only way to limp along that the existing shareholders take up the allowed share issue? Is there benefit for them in doing so? Surely now is the time to throw TRFC to the wolves and take the rental money.

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Podcast Episode 3 – David Low
PW1874 says:

April 24, 2014 at 2:48 pm

Sandy Easdale = Gollum, brilliant!! Haha. The description you’ve used to come up with that is peerless. Superb.

Oh and while I’m OT, Johnny Marr is simply the best guitarist ever. End of.


Podcast Episode 3 – David Low
Cluster One, I’d echo TSFM’s suggestion that you DO listen to the podcast. Your take on the content might be different to mine, so don’t take my word for it. TSFM, I’d also like to be clear that although I commented negatively on his comments, I didn’t for a moment suggest that David shouldn’t have been allowed a say, either because he is a Celtic fan or for any other reason. I agree that one of the main focusses of this forum is to stimulate debate on Scottish football and its future – that’s all I was doing, I think.


Podcast Episode 3 – David Low
Ermm, I know this is likely to be unpopular but listening to the podcast, I’m not sure I liked what I heard. I realise David Low is a better businessman than I am, know he deserves great credit for his part in the saving of Celtic and know, therefore, that he is more experienced in business matters, strategy etc than I am, but I felt it came across as someone who (almost like the sfa & msm!) could not see anything other than a return to the past, with RFC* back as the only team capable of providing acceptable competition for Celtic. I know their fanbase helps that perception, but as is regularly commented on in this forum, everything else (overheads, fan expectations etc) almost nullifies that advantage. I think if a non-Celtic ‘figurehead’ were to say these things, they would be slated on here yet no one is commenting. He even actually recognises that that rivalry is based on all the bad reasons, but is prepared to accept that, just to help Celtic raise their game. Again, a view I think would be slated if, say, CO or SR were to suggest we should put up with the full emergency wards because it helps the ‘Old Firm’. Finally, I thought his vision for where he wants and expects to see Celtic (in the quarters and better of the CL) – even if that meant abandoning a low quality SPFL – reeked of the sort of sense of entitlement that is regularly ridiculed on here when RFC* people display it. The fact he would only like that to be done ‘legitimately’ does not make enough of a difference for me. The attitude of ‘they’ll only drag us down’ (my wording) so let’s just leave them to get on with it is not one I share and I fail to see how no one seems to think that an Aberdeen , Dundee United, or lots of teams could, under the right conditions, provide better/wider competition than RFC* did. I know I’m being naïve and idealistic, but his vision means chasing as much money as possible (legitimately) to compete with the other moneyed clubs, but as posted above, who is to say that the bubble is not ready to burst?

I know there are posters who will respect – and maybe even know – David Low. I’m just not convinced of his stance and not entirely convinced that it ties in with the general thinking of this forum. I may have misinterpreted the general thinking here, but I’m surprised at the lack of comment. I’m ready for (but never worry about) the TDs.


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Enough is enough
EB, you state that the SFA’s rules allowed them discretion to transfer the membership. Just for clarity – is your reason for doing so purely to clarify for others on here that the SFA did not break their rules in allowing the transfer? I.e. a warning not to claim the SFA breached their rules?
Or is your reason for stating it an argument that the transfer of membership allows the current ‘Rangers’ to claim that it is the same entity as the ‘Rangers’ currently in liquidation?


Enough is enough
AS, you need to remember that as far as the SFA is concerned there’s no uncertainty ‘cos Dave said he would put the money in! So that’s awrite then.


Enough is enough
If Dorrans’ signing was after the accounts cut-off, then I can only see Cardoso, Pena, Herrera, Candeias and Morelos signing for a fee according to TransferMarket. Their fees listed there total only £7,380m not the c£10m shown in the accounts. Anyone any ideas?


Enough is enough
Given that Dave doesn’t have any control, I’m wondering who the nice person at NOAL is who keeps sending TRFC money out of the goodness of his heart?!?


Enough is enough
Tris, you say “Celtic wouldn’t be risking very much if some more equitable model was introducedThey’d still have more money than most.”
Of course they would………but only most in Scotland. That’s my point – why would they weaken themselves against the ‘big’ European clubs whom they have ambitions to better or at least compete with? You suggest they should because somewhere down the line they MIGHT need to improve due to increased competition from better domestic clubs. Seriously? “Let’s weaken ourselves against the clubs we’re aspiring to match in the hope that years ahead we MIGHT get better and they (keeping all their money) don’t”!?!?!?!
Let’s be realistic. You can’t expect a business/club to do that.
I want better competition and improving standards in Scottish football as much as anyone, but the more naïve comments I hear, the more I’m convinced that it can only be done by somehow forcing UEFA to drive it from the top down (or, as you say, the bubble bursts and we start from scratch).


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