Podcast Episode 5 – Hibs Takeover ?

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Rhapsodyinblue says: September 4, 2014 at 2:31 pm ‘..the character named Phil, …

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rhapsodyinblue says:
September 4, 2014 at 2:31 pm
‘..the character named Phil, a truly obsessed individual, whose only raison d’etre is to dance on our grave.’
That’s maybe just a tad harsh,rhapsodyin blue.
PmcG is a freelance journalist who,( like RTC), spotted a ‘football’ story, or the possibility of a story, that seemed to be being deliberately ignored by other professional journalists out of fear of, or exaggerated admiration for, a man perceived to be powerful and influential not only in the world of Scottish Football, but in the mainstream of industry and business.

He may not have been motivated solely by pure, abstract devotion to unearthing the facts, and may indeed have enjoyed and be enjoying the fact that his professional news-hound instinct has helped reveal facts relating to the cause of death of a football club which he did not hold in any kind of esteem.

But his prime motivation was to get at the facts.

If other journalists better disposed to the club in question had begun, long ago, to ask questions insistently, the immense difficulties that SDM brought upon the club might have been clocked by the support, and some kind of action initiated, with helpful press support, to prevent the calamity which befell the club.
I think we all know that there are few things more galling than that an ‘enemy’ should triumph. And one of those things is that blindly ‘loyal’ friends should have sold the pass through self-interest/self-protection.
The ‘baddies’ in the play include the bulk of the SMSM sports journalists and editors , now tarnished forever as men who would sell their souls for a mess of potage, never mind succulent lamb. Their deficiencies as ‘newshounds’ led to the RFC support sleepwalking into the nightmare of the sale for £1, and the monstrous regime of CW, and the whole subsequent sorry and continuing saga.
Phil appears to work at his sources, and tries to figure out the angles.He might not always get at anything like the complete truth- perhaps even no one on the RIFC board even knows the complete truth.
But if there had been a ‘Rangers’ RTC-type, or a ‘Rangers’ Phil , the RFC support might have been more effectively mobilised to thwart CW, and would certainly have been better placed to challenge Green and all the others in TRFC/RIFC plc since.

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Podcast Episode 5 – Hibs Takeover ?
Well, that was a creditable performance tonight.I don’t have Sky, so haven’t seen the game. But I think the measure of success was summed up by someone who tweeted or emailed or facebooked Richard Gordon at half-time to say that Brazil were 4 ( or was it 5?) down at the same point in their World cup game.
Even if the game tonight had been a ‘friendly’ that would have been an acceptable result. As a competitive game against the World cup winners, it’s a mark of how decent our national game can be.It will be interesting to see how the rest of European football views that result. And wee Gordon’s capabilities will be favourably re-assessed.

Podcast Episode 5 – Hibs Takeover ?
StevieBC says:
September 7, 2014 at 12:52 am
‘..IMO, King is indeed a curious character.’
I suspect that not a few of us are similarly ‘curious’ characters!
Who among us but has not secretly wished to wear the camel-hair coat and wave to our fans as we take our place at home games in our ‘majority shareholder’s’ box with our invited guests!
I, personally, can well understand how someone might blow his lottery winnings on that fantasy!

But guys who ‘make’ their money, for example,basic Castlemilk council house guys ( although in far better council housing than I ever was!) have savvy enough to know that there might be ways of indulging in their fantasy without spending any of their own money, or relatively little.

King will try to calculate precisely the right time to pick up the assets in an admin sale, fronting a consortium of people who will provide a lot of the cash, with King spending only just enough of his own dosh to become the majority shareholder.
He wants to be King Dave of Rangers-on the cheap. No doubt.
But he’s got to get round the ‘fit and proper’ test.And that must annoy the hell out of him.
I think he is still very much in the background, and I would love it if a Chick Young or some such would ask the SFA Board if they have been in communication with him in recent weeks.

Podcast Episode 5 – Hibs Takeover ?
Matty Roth says:
September 6, 2014 at 10:24 pm
‘.. where are the SFA? ‘
In an absolute funk, I would imagine.

Paralysed by the inability of their President to come to grips with harsh reality. That man must EITHER stand down immediately to allow of the possibility of a real leader emerging, OR himself make a public statement about how the SFA will handle the football business of Scotland IF ( not yet necessarily ‘when’) the football club playing as TRFC cannot field a team to meet its fixture obligations.

It would be astonishing, incredible, if every chairman of a Championship league club has not already been squealing to the SFA board to tell them what exactly the contingency plans are to meet the possible scenarios that the (now very likely) ‘insolvency’ of RIFC plc/TRFC will present.
We on this broad-based blog are now ‘experienced’ enough in these matters to know, broadly, the range of possibilities that arises as soon as the club enters Administration. So is the SFA Board.

That Board should forthwith reassure us, their ultimate paymasters, that they have plans in place to eliminate risk of absolute chaos in the whole running of the league and cup set-up for the rest of the season, with the integrity of the game, rather than commercial considerations, the principle to be adhered to.
AND, most importantly,they should spell out what those plans are, so that we can keep them right as far as Sporting Integrity is concerned.

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It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
My brother and I, auld men now that we are, meet occasionally for a pint or three.
We tend to pay homage to our late dad by visiting one of the pubs he used as a young man afore the war ( he lived in digs near Partick Cross) , or one of the pubs he used when we were kids during his working life at what  used to be Glasgow Corporation Tramways Parkhead depot,  or the pub he used in Tollcross in his retirement days.
So I feel for the patrons of what had been Annie Miller’s pub in Ropework lane.
If and when the new owners of the premises tart it up gaily as a feeder bar for their adjoining sauna, I expect that it will no longer be a ‘Rangers’ pub,a place of shared enjoyment of football memories and celebration of former days of glory.

Like the historic Rangers Football Club, Annie Miller’s is dead. Ceased trading in 2016. No longer exists as a ‘Rangers’ pub, any more than the Rangers Football Club of 1872 exists as a professional football club entitled to a place in Scottish Football.
That’s the reality.
There isn’t even a ‘Scottish Football Pubs Association’ prepared to create and propagate a lie  that ‘Annie Miller’s’ lives on, there have been no white or green knights/knaves rushing in to found ‘continuity Annie Miller’s’, no running-dog SMSM types betraying their avocation by propagating untruths……and.no convicted criminals begging, borrowing and making false promises about good times to come if only other folk will produce the readies…
Annie Miller’s is dead and gone.
Only a lie sustains TRFC Ltd.
And those who drank in Annie Miller’s know that.
And the evil men of the SMSM and the SFA know it, too.
May 2018 see them confounded, and their untruths exposed.

It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
FinlochDecember 30, 2017 at 20:42
‘…Craig took a Corinthian and undisciplined club going nowhere fast, rooted it into a previously ignored community and has achieved some incredible health and social goals deep into that community using football as glue.’
Beautifully expressed, Finloch.

Football as a glue of ‘community’

Of community trust,

of basic honesty,

of the  Corinthian spirit,

of sporting integrity….

and of all the virtues that the SFA has so spectacularly abandoned, in its determination to insist that Charles Green’s Sevcoscotland is entitled to call itself the Rangers of 1872

That such an incredibly monstrous perversion of truth of any kind, never mind sporting truth, is being, and has been for 5 years, propagated by our Football Governance body and supported by the SMSM is stark evidence of a deep, deep corruption at the heart of our sport, and, worse, at the very essence of our ‘free’ Press.

in this little country of ours.

It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
And since I’m talking to myself while all you guys and gals are snoring your heads off, can I just mention that in the local newspaper this morning there was a piece about school sports.

It seemed to be about the ‘pick’ of the best players.

I didn’t have time today to read the whole thing ( and it’s too late to disturb the household to go looking for the paper!) but it seemed to be related to the use by ‘soccer’ teams of the American  Football  concept of who gets to pick the best player in the ‘draft’.

I have only the haziest understanding of that concept.

But in so far as it might relate to attempts to create genuine ‘sporting’ , on-field, equality of talent, it must have something to recommend it.

Even the Americans realise that in order to make money out of sport,there has to be some concept of genuine ‘sporting competition’

Auldheid reminded us, quite movingly, of the joyous nature of our game as we all experienced it.
We all knew instinctively what was fair, and what wasn’t.
Remember how our street game teams were picked?

The two ‘captains’ tossed for first choice.Whichever won the toss would pick the ‘best’ player. The other guy would pick ‘the second best’ and so on.

And, if it appeared that there was an imbalance ,or if there was an odd number of players, then it would be agreed that a ‘John Clark’ would play the first half for one side to give them the extra man, and the second half for the other side, to try to be fair in the use of that useless lump!

( who, I may say, was actually quite good at lifting the wee ba’ from the street up onto the pavement, one hand on the lamp-post outside the Thomson’s house on Cuthelton Street, and bringing it to the goal at the lorry entrance to the Domestos depot ( formerly Donald Clarke’s steel kind of place, which in 1947 sirened One o’Clock,with the siren they used ‘during the war!’)

And it is these kinds of memories that fuel my contempt
contempt for the cheating bast.rd of a knight of the realm who killed the RFC of my day

contempt for the SFA who, like some referees,not only did not ‘see’ that cheating but went further and assisted in that cheating

And who continue to propagate the lie that the football club that cheated its way to death by Liquidation is somehow the same club as a five year old creation that they themselves have lied into existence.

And as for the the whole lot of the successive boards of either Sevco 5088, Sevcoscotland, The rangers football Club Ltd, RIFC plc  how can they be described otherwise than as  scavengers of carrion? Feeding as they do on the dead flesh of a once proud football club?

It gars me greet…
Quietly and solemnly, into my glass of “Goose IPA, 5.9%, made from hops from Idaho” ( And actually quite surprisingly pleasant, reminiscent of McEwan’s pale ale.

It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
It’s 11.43 pm in Scranton,PA,  and we have just come back from being wined and dined  in tremendously good company in a friends-of-the-son’s home.

I am therefore in a cheerful frame of mind. (Mind you, sitting in the back seat of the car I had one of those A9 moments of absolute fear, when the driver overtook another car on a blind bend, before I realised we were still on a dual carriageway!)….

For one reason or another, it suddenly strikes  me that I don’t actually know ( or remember) when it was that the concept of ‘transfer windows’ was introduced, or why it was introduced.

On the face of it, it’s as much of a restriction of ‘trade’ on ’employers’, as the pre-Bosman situation was on freedom of employment was on ‘workers'(players).

Is there a decently worked out rationale for the concept?

It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
easyJamboDecember 27, 2017 at 17:49
‘..I think that the document will only be a restatement of the resolutions that were approved at the AGM (Resolutions 10 & 11).’
You’re perfectly right, of course, eJ: it was only the official recording  of the AGM resolutions.

I think I for one (in my general ignorance) tend to think that any plc of which a director has been taken to the Courts( in an unprecedented action by the Takeover Panel) would have every form or document that it submitted to Companies House rigorously examined, cross-checked, double-checked, treble checked ,even, in a way that ,for example, the SFA does not do with documents submitted to it by its trustworthy gentlemen members.

The Takeover Panel has a lot riding on how the Law stands in its approach to the Panel’s need for support in their regulation of rogues in the market-place.

So I tend to look at anything touching on RIFC plc that seems even a wee bit different as something worth exploring.

Largely tongue-in-cheek, of course: -we’re not likely ever to be told anything confidential by CH! But if they say something will appear, and then it doesn’t appear when promised, then it allows one to ask why. Keeps them on their toes!

And we know that when even the gentlemen of our free Press are not above behaving with less than complete honesty when it comes to TRFC Ltd/RIFC plc  there may (God forbid!) exist a ‘protective of companies’ mindset in CH, rather than a ‘get the baddies’ approach.

Who knows?

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