Reflections on Goalposts

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Bauhaus says: (23) January 9, 2014 at 12:24 am Allyjambo …

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Bauhaus says: (23)
January 9, 2014 at 12:24 am

Allyjambo says: (760)
January 9, 2014 at 12:05 am

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I don’t agree the JI is a “squirrel”. Perception becomes reality and JI is setting the agenda. For example, the word “NewCo” did not appear in the newspapers by accident. Clearly NewCo was preferred to “New Club”. Lazy and weak minds can be influenced and the SMSM were only too happy to jump onto a word universally when they had none of their own. This ultimately set the stage to introduce the lie that only the company died and not the club. This lie has so often retold that many people accept it as fact unquestioningly. It was a coordinated campaign and I do not doubt for a second that JI was behind it and pushing the agenda.

JI is known to strategically place good and bad news stories about his clients and their competitors. Details of this only come to light years later. The journalists involved likely didn’t have any idea JI was behind it. That’s how he works. It generates a certain amount of paranoia here, but I think that is healthy. Question everything.

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chancer67 says:
January 23, 2014 at 7:59 pm

“The false and damaging information …”

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The information may be false, but I don’t believe it is damaging at all. Time will show Celtic are led by shrewd yet honest men who have done well for the club. The only damage will be to the reputations of people who must surely know the accusations are spurious. It is petty, small-minded stuff.

Celtic go from strength to strength. I believe we are entering a time where Celtic will not be caught by another club for many, many years. 10 in a row, I have no doubt. If 10, why not 15 or 20? Celtic fans have nothing to worry about.


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Carl31 says:
January 23, 2014 at 12:50 pm

Couldn’t agree with you more. A good friend of mine had a 5yrs introductory mortgage deal at 1% BELOW base rate, so for a time was paying no interest at all (until the deal ran its course). It is simply good business to take advantage the good deals that are out there. If you are like my good friend, or like Celtic Football Club, and have an excellent credit rating then that’s your good fortune. Celtic simply benefited in the same way that all variable mortgage holders benefited (myself include so I share your joy, Carl).

I can’t believe this is even a topic for discussion. If you keep your nose clean and get a good deal, how can that be wrong? Just plain jealousy, that’s the only conclusion.


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Not The Huddle Malcontent says:
January 22, 2014 at 7:49 pm

I feel your pain, some of the nudge-nudge wink-wink stuff from Phil is frustrating. However, credit where it is due, Phil is right often enough to warrant respect and I dare say he has a better handle on this that most of us (and has better sources). More importantly, it wouldn’t do to let the cat out of the bag and warn someone off doing something – particularly if you want them to do it!


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EDIT/UPDATE:The video clip which shows the moron pushing the Rangers goalkeeper is outrageous. I can only imagine how scared that young man must have been, isolated as he was at that moment. I was scared for him just watching it and I have to say that I can understand Rangers’ immediate reaction on the basis of that incident alone. I hope they get hold of that arse.
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100% agree.  A Hibs supporting family member suggested he probably gets worse defending a corner, but that completely misses the point.  Being surrounded by professional footballers, in a controlled environment, is nothing like being surrounded by over-zealous football fans.  You have no idea what is going to happen next.  I thought the big chap did very well to keep his cool.  I hope the idiot involved is found and prosecuted.  It is common assault, no excuses.


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RYANGOSLINGMAY 21, 2016 at 17:58

Beatipacificiscotia,
Hibs fans run on the pitch and attack Rangers players and staff and it is excusable, yet Rangers fans are the bad boys for singing a song? Don’t get me wrong, me and my mates were pretty horrified to see the reaction of the Rangers fans, but get a grip of yourself, you can’t just say Hibs fans were fine but Rangers were the baddies. Attacking the players and staff is not on, and according to the media reports I’ve read thus far Rangers fans only responded when the Hibs fans ran to the Rangers end.
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I think every sane person is on the same page as this, but whataboutery is in overdrive at the moment.  I don’t know if has been mentioned, the very corner that the Hibs players celebrated the winning goal with fans is where the pitch invasion started.  This, for me, is where it all began.  There are rules about leaving the field of play to celebrate, and you can now see why.  All that said, you can’t blame the players either for how they acted in the moment.  Stewards should have stopped players approaching and celebrating with fans.  Emotions were at boiling point and there were only moments between the final goal and full time.  Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but maybe police should have got some extra cover down to that corner immediately after the goal and celebrations.  There was 2 full minutes for someone to make a decision and deploy the extra cover.

I want to mention one very important element in this story.  The goading of Hibs players and fans has been well documented – “Hibs’d it”.  This originated on Rangers forums and has been perpetuated in the media.  The Hibs players and fans went from disaster to triumph and that single moment of joy overcame them.  I’m a Celtic fan, but from a Hibs family so I know what it means to them.  My old Dad and nephews are all East Road season ticket holders.  They were at the game (not on the pitch, I may add).  Rangers fans, aided by the media, created and perpetuated such a disrespectful term.  Hibs players responded in the best possible way.  Sadly, Hibs fans didn’t.  The fighting that came next is not excusable in any way – a very small number of fans from each side should be ashamed of themselves.  That said, to approach the Rangers fans for a GIRUY is maybe understandable (but not excusable) in the face of weeks of very public goading.  

For the avoidance of doubt, most Hibs fans stayed where they should have in the stands.  I thought the rendition of “Sunshine on Leith” was a beautiful and proud moment.  Most Rangers fans left the stadium quietly at the end of the match.  Both sets of fans had an element that let their club down.  Both sets of fans were let down by the security measures put in place by the SFA and Police Scotland.

To answer your point, Ryan, Hibs fans in no way encouraged Rangers fans to sing songs about wading in the blood of Catholics.  Pitch invasions and pyrotechnics can happen anywhere (and frequently do).  The disgusting bigotry displayed by Rangers fans is something that, sadly, will likely be overlooked by authorities in this mess.

“Sunshine on Leith” on one side and “Billy Boys” on the other, says it all for me.


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Great win for Hibs, deserved winners of the game.  Interesting stat that Stokes had more attempts on goal than the entire Rangers team.  Says it all.

The match day was spoiled by two things – Hibs fans invading the pitch, promptly followed by the expected rendition of Billy Boys from the Rangers fans.  You can almost excuse the Hibs fans, so much disappointment then finally triumph.  The moment obviously got the better of them.  What can you say about Rangers fans?


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