Scottish Football Administration in the 21st Century


Torrejohnbhoy(@johnbhoy1958) says: October 9, 2013 at 10:07 pm “If you were standing …

Comment on Scottish Football Administration in the 21st Century by Jagsman.

torrejohnbhoy(@johnbhoy1958) says:
October 9, 2013 at 10:07 pm
“If you were standing at the back of the Celtic end the goal at the Rangers end was over 400 yards away.Nearly 1/4 mile!
Some of the stats were staggering.”

Staggering. And inaccurate if you ask me.

Have a look at the old photos of Hampden here;

and tell me how you could be 400yds away from the goal at the west terracing when you are at the back of the east terracing?

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Scottish Football Administration in the 21st Century
Madbhoy24941 says: (293)
October 16, 2013 at 6:54 pm
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New Dunfermline Chairman: “unbroken 128 year history”.

So some people do actually get the difference between Administration and Liquidation….

As a fan of Glasgow’s oldest professional football club, I can confirm that some people do understand the concept.

Recent Comments by Jagsman

Armageddon? What Armageddon?
UPTHEHOOPS is a bit too negative about Coyle in particular and MacKay also. OC managed Falkirk, St Johnstone and Burnley in the Championship before making the mistake of jumping ship to Bolton. That CV hardly equates to being brought into management in a “loadsamoney” culture. MacKay managed Watford before Cardiff.
That is not to say that either would be better than Celtic’s ultimate choice. Andy Walker was one of the most underwhelming players I have ever seen in red and yellow. He is a rent-a-mouth. Not to be taken at all seriously.
Time will tell as to how RD does at Parkhead.

Armageddon? What Armageddon?
It is subjective, but I don’t think it is quite true to say that Scotland has produced no world class players since the 60’s. There were many Scottish players who won European Cup medals up to the mid-80’s. The Forest teams had about half a dozen Scots (John Robertson, Kenny Burns spring to mind) while Dalglish, Hansen and Souness were crucial to Liverpool’s success. The Villa team also had a number of Scots such as Des Bremner and even after the banning of English clubs post-Heysel, Stevie Archibald appeared in the final for Barcelona, though the next Scot to make an appearance was Paul Lambert in 1997. We did also qualify for 6 of the 7 World Cup finals between 1974 and 1998 (even if we under-performed on certain occasions once there).

Have we really stop producing good players or have other countries just start producing more (and better) players at the same time as gaining access to what had been the main marketplace for Scottish talent (i.e. England)? I would suggest that the later was the initial problem followed more recently by the former.

The appearances of Steve Archibald and Paul Lambert in European Cup finals straddle the dissolution of the socialist bloc and the break up of the USSR, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia into multiple smaller states. This alone resulted in a large increase in the footballing labour force available to compete against Scots produce. Ditto, the more serious development of the game in some smaller European countries (e.g. Norway and Denmark), but more importantly Africa and the far East. The increased movement of players from these previously under-developed footballing nations to the money-market of Europe (England in particular) resulted in a downward pressure on demand for Scottish players at the highest level of the traditional market.

If anything really appears to act as a watershed in terms of producing home-grown talent it is the creation of the SPL in 1998 (coinciding with the last time we qualified for an international tournament). Scottish football became an absolute economic basket case in the SPL era and the generation of native talent took a true dive. As has been pointed out, economic reality is forcing the game back to basics and there are some green shoots appearing in conjunction with an apparent willingness to play the game in a more refined manner as opposed to the “higher, harder, longer” school of fitba.

That said, feet need to be kept on the ground. The recent thumpings for Scotland U-17s and U-21s by their Dutch counterparts shows there is a very long way to go.

Armageddon? What Armageddon?
If there were a guarantee of 4 OF games written into the TV contract, it would also mean that both clubs would have to be in the same half of the table at the split. …. It’s a fix!

Armageddon? What Armageddon?
In the light of discussion of TV rights etc, these two links may be of interest to some:

The compiler seems sympathetic to Scottish football and is at pains to highlight the poor promotion of the televised Premiership matches by BT and also the down-playing of the game by SKY via low exposure on Sky Sports 4.

Hopefully the SPFL will have someone competent to assess these nuances of televising Scottish football rather than just going on viewing figures alone without context when it comes to deal renegotiation time.

The good news is that it seems that interest in Scottish Premiership football is on the way up (in line with attendance figures). In contrast, interest in the progress of The Rangers FC is falling (also in line with attendances at Ibrox). Having seen part of a few games, TRFC either bulldozed the opposition thereby reducing this viewers interest, or played truly appalling football which would make your eyes bleed (game against East Fife won with a last minute penalty springs to mind; I caught the last 20 minutes and it was painful). If your interest was peripheral, it wouldn’t take long to switch off and decide not to tune in again. The blogger is correct however, to point out that interest in TRFC games is likely to increase next season as the games ought to be more competitive. Always assuming they are capable of putting a team on the park of course, but even the biggest basket cases seem capable of seeing out a season regardless of economics.

Armageddon? What Armageddon?
neepheid says:
May 13, 2014 at 8:50 pm
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From Twitter
SPLstats ‏@SPLstats 1m
318 different players made appearances in this season’s Premiership. 169 of those (53.1%) were Scottish.

Maybe just me, but I find that statistic quite depressing.

An interesting figure, but I’m not sure I would call it depressing. You would have to supply me with “better” figures for other countries to make me reach for the bottle….

However, it piqued my interest and made me have a wee look at things via Wiki and ESPN (stats are inexact, but close to reality).

Turns out that Thistle are one of the more Scottish teams with 64% of players who turned out for us being native, 68% if you include Conrad Balatoni (born in Leeds, moved to Edinburgh age 7, Edinburgh accent and a Hearts fan….). If you then calculate it on “starts”, Scots filled the Jags jersey on 71% of occasions. As to the rest:

ICT are quite the reverse: only 17% of their starts were by Scots.
Celtic: 27%
Hibs 45%
Ross County: 49%
Aberdeen 55%
Kilmarnock 58%
Motherwell 58%
Dundee United : 69%
St. Mirren 69%
St. Johnstone: 74%
Hearts 91%

Dylan McGowan provided the 9% of starts by non-Scots for Hearts, that particular stat obviously being a reflection of the position they were in this season.

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