Imagine you are one of those people who have a nice big mahogany desk, with a gloss finish set in a big corner suite office which comes complete with a picture window, a break out area, a couch to lie down on in moments of stress, a quietly playing stereo sound system, fridge, plush carpet and loads of wee executive toy like things of your choosing.
Imagine, just for a moment, that outside your office you have the executive German car that is almost compulsory when you work in such an office. Added to that, you also have the benefit of a large six figure salary, a pension scheme, substantial holidays, a bonus scheme which nicely enhances your already excellent salary, fantastic perks and trips abroad as part of your job, and that you fill a position which leads to invitations to the most fantastic events, do’s, and sporting occasions imaginable.
Imagine the respect you must command from your peers, your family and friends.
Imagine the awe that you must be held in at dinner parties and social events when you are introduced to strangers for the first time– strangers who will have heard your name, and know of your position in society.
Imagine the personal and professional respect you must command from others in your field — or any other field for that matter — when you go to conferences and meetings in foreign cities and with foreign counterparts.
Imagine the envy that many others sometimes feel for someone who has succeeded in business and society to this extent.
Then imagine that the big office described above is at Hampden?
What a bummer!!
Now, I mention all of this because if you were one of the big cheeses at at Hampden, I wonder just what you do with yourself when the large rosewood door of your office closes behind you when you get in there each morning?
Maybe you make a coffee? Read the papers? Check the mail? Go to a meeting about the latest in 3G or is it 4G pitches being installed in a ground or two in the Shetlands?
However, no matter what you do and who you speak to THAT file is always there— always at the corner of your desk, neatly up there at the top left hand corner just beyond the desk top golf set and above the Newton’s cradle with the balls that spell your name or whatever.
That file– the one that relates to the finances, compliance, directors details and ownership of Rangers Football Club.
At least that is what the top of the file says. Though to be fair it is a continuation file… continuing from the one that was opened two months ago and is fit to burst already with reports, memo’s and letters- which in turn was a continuation of the one before that and the one before that and the one before that and on and on.
Maybe that is not the correct name for the club?
Maybe that is something that can be clarified at the next meeting with the Directors and CEO of the club— whoever they might be at that time?
No matter where you go in the room, you can see that file from every position. There is just no getting away from it.
Who owns The Rangers?
There are all sorts of reports, share prospectuses, memos, deeds, documents, contracts, letters, e-mails all asking the same thing. And there you are— none the wiser.
Please clarify this, please clarify that, are there any signed but unrecorded documents, or contracts?
Are the Companies House records accurate? is the Land register accurate?
At the end of the day you just lie on the couch, place a cold cloth over your head and hope it will all go away.
Then the accounts come out. Oh the figures are shocking and they confirm that most of the people you negotiated with to get their team playing football somewhere after the collapse and liquidation of RFC PLC have exited stage left with huge severance cheques.
They now live in France, or Singapore or the Cayman Islands and you can bet they will never darken a door in Mount Florida on a wet February morning ever again.
But that is not the worst of it — the bleeding internet is full of leaks— documents, letters, e-mails, contracts, company forms and all sorts.
You wouldn’t mind if the documents leaked were ones that you had seen before, but in the main they are things that you have never seen and never had disclosed.Every day someone calls and asks ” Have you seen the latest?” and of course you haven’t so you stand there feeling like a complete chookie!!!
Every day you call the compliance and monitoring guys:
” Eh have you seen this? Have you been notified that he is a director?”
” No boss – never seen that? Never knew it existed?”
” So who owns the company if that is correct?”
” Eh Dunno boss — not sure of anything over there any more!”
“Ok have you checked the titles with the lawyers?”
” yes but the title as registered looks ok, but there is no guarantee that it hasn’t been sold to someone else and they have not registered their title for the moment!”
” Have you spoken to the lawyers? Have you asked for clarification?”
” yes Boss — the Lawyers don’t really answer our questions– well at least not fully!”
” What about these accounts – there are 57 pages there – what do they tell us?”
” Well they tell us that the figures are not good, boss, but not immediately critical.”
” Are they paying their taxes?”
” Appear to be boss– but we can’t be sure.can we? We were told they were paying their taxes before and … well you know the rest.”
” Ok, but Pinsent masons rule out the Whyte guy being involved?”
” Ah well not really – they don’t go into the company he says he owns – they sort of ignore that part!”
” But they carried out an independent investigation, surely?”
” True boss, but the independent investigation was only into what the non independent guys wanted investigating Boss, and they appear to have finished their report without speaking to all the witnesses.”
” Ok but the accounts – what do the accounts say about Whyte being the real owner — I mean they are from Deloittes for God sake – they must make the position clear?”
” Well we have had a look at them boss and in that regard the accounts are King Kenny!”
” King Kenny?”
” Aye King Kenny Boss – with regard to Whyte’s claim they say ” maybes aye– maybes naw” and they leave it at that”
” Jesus, well have you written to the Directors?”
” Aye – half the letters have come back marked “Gone away”.Boss”
” Do you know who the shareholders are?”
” Naw Boss”
“Do they have a bank account and a bank reference ?”
” Naw Boss”
” Who’s coming to the next meeting from their side?”
” Dunno Boss”
” Is there anything you can tell me that lets me close this file and get it off my desk for good?”
” Naw boss”
” Well who did we grant membership to last year?”
” The first time or the second time Boss?”
” What do you mean – first time or second time?”
” We started out granting membership to one company and then changed it to another”
” Two companies – owned by the same people?”
” Dunno Boss– but they sounded the same.”
” And which one got a licence?”
” Dunno boss”
” What?”
“Was the licence not granted by Mr Longmuir boss? And then ratified by us as a formality?”
” Why are you asking me, you are the compliance guys?”
” Aye but we were told it would all be ok by … well by someone ….. and by Mr Longmuir”
” When did he tell you that?”
” Told us one day at Ibrox Boss – I think it was at half time?”
” Half Time?”
” Aye – though it might have been full time boss ….. free bevvy and sandwiches so can’t quite remember”.
” Well who has the paperwork?”
” Lost boss”
” Lost?”
” Yes Boss – it was meant to come up from the SFL but never appeared. Turns out that the SFL was run as an unincorporated body and none of its records etc, are intact or have ever been audited …… Boss. Mr Ballantyne might have them in his garage Boss! ……… Boss? ….. are you still there? Boss?”
The man in the corner suite leaves the phone dangling, goes to his fridge for a cold drink and switches on the executive plasma hanging on the wall by way of the remote control on his desk.
The screen beams into life and an advert for the brand of soft drink that he is holding fills the wall. The very same brand of soft drink that has just been announced as the official soft drink to partner Scottish Football.
The executive, looks at his drinks can, looks at the file on the corner of the desk, looks at the abandoned phone and finally looks at the screen just as the speakers spell out clearly ………….. the benefits of coming from a long line of Fannies.
This is Scottish Football Administration in the 21st Century.
Tif Finn says: (544)
October 16, 2013 at 2:37 pm
I lift this from CQN …
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I believe an AIM company needs one more non-exec than executive directors. Easdale is a significant shareholder, meaning there is no independent non-exec on the board able to become chairman.
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Not sure whether that’s correct, Tif. This is what is says on the AIM site:
Chairman and Chief Executive:
The roles of chairman and chief executive should not be held by a single individual. If the chairman is also the chief executive, there should be a clear explanation of how other board procedures provide protection against the risks of concentration of power within the Company.
Independent non-executive directors:
The Company should have at least two non-executive directors (one of whom may be the chairman) and the Board should not be dominated by one person or group of people.
Rangers don’t currently have anyone doing either just now though and could Mr Easdale really take the role as Chairman, given that he apparently controls around 25% of the shares. He doesn’t own all of them but he does have the voting rights, under proxy from the owners.
Neither do they have two non-executive directors, it’s Easdale and that’s it.
I think the point Paul is making is that it is not a properly formed board for a PLC and as such can’t really do very much, including calling an AGM.
One would almost suspect that Stockbridge and Mather might have known this.
There is absolutely no proper corporate governance at RIFC PLC now.
An older topic discussed – just an update – don’t want to divert the discussion currently ongoing
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/police-file-report-alleged-sectarian-2457831?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Police file report on alleged sectarian singing by soldiers during Armed Forces Day celebrations at Ibrox
16 Oct 2013 07:16
A DOSSIER has been sent to Army top brass and court prosecutors following complaints that soldiers sang sectarian songs at the match between Rangers and Stenhousemuir on September 28.
ARMY chiefs and court prosecutors have been sent a dossier on alleged sectarian singing by troops at Ibrox.
The procurator fiscal will now consider the police report and decide whether to bring criminal charges.
And any soldiers found guilty of an offence could also be subject to military disciplinary action.
There was outrage when a video emerged from a Rangers game against Stenhousemuir at which 400 military personnel were guests of honour.
Police received a string of complaints that soldiers, who had been invited to Ibrox to mark Armed Forces Day, sang sectarian songs.
It was also alleged that they chanted about the death of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands and some posed for a photograph with a “Keep Ulster Protestant” scarf.
Thousands of people viewed footage from the September 28 match after it was posted on YouTube and circulated on social networking sites.
Chief Superintendent Andy Bates said officers were investigating “concerns raised regarding the conduct of a number of people attending the game”.
When the investigation was launched, the MoD said sectarian behaviour would not be tolerated and
individuals would be dealt with “severely” if they were found to have taken part.
An MoD source said the soldiers involved in the scarf picture had been identified by top brass and could now face disciplinary action.
They are believed to have claimed that they were posing for an official picture when someone asked them to hold the scarf.
An MoD spokeswoman last night said they had been assisting the police with their investigation.
A police spokeswoman said their inquiry was now complete.
She said: “Following a full inquiry, a report on the circumstances was submitted to the procurator fiscal and the military.”
Rangers FC said they could not comment on the allegations due to the ongoing investigation.
So there we have it, Mr Mather had to go after a couple of bad judgement calls, one of which was involving Dave King in the current boardroom civil war, or at least so someone is telling Mr McMurdo.
(Can you have a civil war war with only two people who seem to be in agreement? Barbarians at the foot of the Marble Staircase might have been more apt, Bill)
More priceless stuff from the Sage of Edminston Drive can be found here
http://billmcmurdo.wordpress.com/blog/
Exiled Celt says: (712)
October 16, 2013 at 3:18 pm
Rangers FC said they could not comment on the allegations due to their being nobody left in the building and we have no idea of the whereabouts of Jack or JT
Fixed that for ye EC 🙂
Hullo, hullo….hullo, hullo….hullo?
Naebody in! 🙂
Scottish Football needs a quorum.
When does the SFA step in and say that a club is bringing the game into disrepute, is unable to properly govern itself and needs to be suspended?
Scottish Football needs the SFA to actually say and do something that is to the benefit of Scottish Football.
So Capt Mather and two of his Ship’s Officers have jumped overboard as the iceberg looms ever closer.
Is a bus driver now at the helm of the Titanic?
Do I not recall Mather saying that there would be no sale and leaseback while he was in charge? Maybe that explains his somewhat abrupt departure?
The back of my fag packet (which has been amazingly accurate so far) tells me that the cash will run out long before April unless something is done very soon to pump more cash in. Looks like Stockbridge is just hanging on to run the shredders one last time, then switch off the lights.
By the way, I read on KDS that Stockbridge’s house in Bearsden has just been put up fpr sale. If that’s true, then I feel the the end game may be upon us. At least for this act of the panto.
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Auldheid says: (967)
October 16, 2013 at 12:37 pm
Sorry about the sarcastic comment Auldheid, it’s just that I’ve seen a few article’s by Paul67 , among others where we are assured things are happening that we have no knowledge of. As time passes and nothing happens the subject is never re-visited by the writher which, if I’m honest, pisses me off somewhat.
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You have every right to be sarcastic. At the first test of UEFA FFP a national association failed it.
neepheid says: (840)
October 16, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Do I not recall Mather saying that there would be no sale and leaseback while he was in charge? Maybe that explains his somewhat abrupt departure?
The back of my fag packet (which has been amazingly accurate so far) tells me that the cash will run out long before April unless something is done very soon to pump more cash in. Looks like Stockbridge is just hanging on to run the shredders one last time, then switch off the lights.
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I’m with you all the way on this one neepheid,I think they will be lucky to get to Christmas.
Joburgbhoy will not be far out with his wee joke.
They need to hold an AGM by Dec 31st.
They need to give at least 21 days notice of the AGM.
My money’s on admin on Dec the 10th.
As long as possible to fill their pockets and as little time as possible to allow the hordes to muster.
So is Mr Ahmed claiming to be in possession of a side letter from Charles Green? Wonder if he found anymore whilst in office?
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Joethebookie says: (15)
October 16, 2013 at 4:23 pm
They need to hold an AGM by Dec 31st.
They need to give at least 21 days notice of the AGM.
My money’s on admin on Dec the 10th.
As long as possible to fill their pockets and as little time as possible to allow the hordes to muster
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I would never argue with a Bookie.
But if, as seems possible, their board is not ‘valid’ as per AIM rules (two non-execs, no chairman, no CEO) then it is not able to call an AGM. So who does it? Would the NOMAD have to take on that responsibility? Can the NOMAD appoint temporary directors to steady the ship
as it heads towards the rocks, sorry, as it heads towards its AGM?Cerdan says: (6)
October 16, 2013 at 1:42 am
Auldheid
Is there no way you can be persuaded to focus on DOS and develop a strategy to have the mechanics of DOS illustrated and its implications understood in the mainstream?
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I have no wish to reignite or contribute to the debate on the Celtic resolution especially with the long-awaited second meltdown at Ibrox which I have always believed has the potential to expose many of the SFA and CO machinations in its wake.
Nor do I have any need to jump to the defence of Auldheid as he is more than capable of doing that for himself.
He, like myself, has more than one core area of interest which he posts on and has built up a bit of expertise in all of them – neither of us are one-trick ponies 😉
I also have been interested in DOS and EBTs and I can assure you that plenty in the SMSM are fully aware of the mechanics and implications of these schemes and so is the SFA and CO. The problem is that the SMSM has decided not to ask any detailed questions for fear it would have to print the truth.
We are therefore left with a number on conspiracy theories because the SFA isn’t a transparent organisation and it’s up to all of us to exert as much pressure as possible particularly through well-researched posts with as wide a distribution as possible.
I also dislike intensely being told by other posters what I should be posting on and what I should be ignoring – especially if it’s an area I have put a lot of time, research and thought into. Of course if what I post on is of no interest to anyone else well that’s life and anyone who posts lives with that risk.
People like Auldheid have built respect for their contributions because they care deeply about certain topics and put in a lot of time and effort into opening our eyes and minds and even though I might not agree with what a poster has argued I fully respect their right to make their own decision as to what they post on as long as they remain within the remit of the blog.
So, after the rebels victory last week – having their resolutions added to the AGM business.
are they simply going to wait until the (depleted) board announce a new AGM date.
As the AGM HAS to be held by dec 31st, then, it could be months away.
Are the REBELS going to push for an EGM in 3 weeks if no AGM is called? They are entitled too.
Welcome back ecobhoy – we missed you!
Phil’s tweets getting interesting………….
Phil MacGiollaBhain @Pmacgiollabhain 1h
Another day, another Sevco story:
SARS press office very helpful.
Although the National Prosecuting Authority seem to have gone on the run
Phil MacGiollaBhain @Pmacgiollabhain 30s
The South African National Prosecuting Authority have been clarifying a few things about Dave King as the reportage had confuzzled me
Phil MacGiollaBhain @Pmacgiollabhain 34s
“The NPA deals with criminal matters, and the plea and sentence agreements are reflected as criminal convictions.”
Not a civil matter then..
And after the good news for the Pars today, Allyjambo may be getting some good news too!
http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/hearts/244024-hearts-to-step-closer-to-exiting-administration-as-new-ubig-court-date-set/
Hearts should step closer to ending their administration next week when a court in Lithuania convenes to confirm the bankruptcy of UBIG.
UBIG, the holding company that Vladimir Romanov used to control Hearts, must have bankruptcy administrators appointed before a CVA can be agreed.
UBIG holds 50% of the shares in Hearts, which will be required along with Ukio Bankas’ 29.9% stake, plus ownership of Tynecastle Stadium, for the fan-led Foundation of Hearts to complete a takeover of the club.
With the UBIG assets frozen, negotiations to release the shares in Hearts have not been able to take place.
UBIG declared insolvency in July after having its assets frozen while owner Vladimir Romanov’s business empire collapsed.
A court hearing was held at the start of October, with an announcement on the appointment of bankruptcy administrators – the Lithuanian equivalent of liquidators – due within three weeks of that date.
However the court will now reconvene on October 24 to consider the case and appoint an administrator.
Lithuania recently implemented new insolvency laws, a move which has contributed to the new court date.
Speaking to STV, Gintaras Adomonis of Valnetas UAB, the firm overseeing the bankruptcy of Ukio Bankas, said: “The Lithuanian Court of Appeals had to announce a decision regarding the appointment of a bankruptcy administrator to UBIG.
“The decision had to be final for both institution of insolvency and appointment of administrator. However, the Court decided to re-open examination of the case, assigned three judges and set case hearing on October 24.
“We are not aware what the grounds of the decision are, and it was quite a surprise for us. However, nothing can be done to speed up the procedure and we need to wait for the final decision.
“We expect that the administrator to UBIG shall be appointed on 24th of October. “
Adomonis confirmed that Valnetas continue to talk to Foundation of Hearts through the club’s administrator, BDO.
HMFC Ltd, who made a bid for the club which was rejected in favour of the Foundation in August, has made a new proposal to Valnetas to buy the 29.9% shareholding for a nominal sum, leaving Tynecastle Stadium to be sold off to pay the creditors of Ukio.
However Adomonis said that the Foundation bid was still the one being negotiated.
He added: “Ukio Bankas management committee, advisory body to the administrator of Ukio Bankas, shall assess the situation and bids this week and should adopt a decision how to proceed further. Foundation of Hearts are now considered as the preferred bidders by the committee.
“Ukio Bankas has a pledge over 29.9% of shares, therefore this stake can be sold to the investors as soon as the price will be approved by the court or Ukio Bankas creditor’s committee, when it is established.
“Tynecastle Stadium is a part of a deal which is being negotiated by BDO, as administrators of Heart of Midlothian Plc.”
neepheid says: (840)
October 16, 2013 at 3:48 pm
By the way, I read on KDS that Stockbridge’s house in Bearsden …
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Which reminds me, it seems RM has been offline all day. A shame, because I was interested in what the Bears’ views on the latest developments would be.
If only “Lonesome George”, the rarest creature in the world, (after RFC directors) was still alive he could have kept Stockbridge company in the boardroom.
BigGav says: (44)
October 16, 2013 at 3:38 pm
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Is a bus driver now at the helm of the Titanic?
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There may only be one Lone Ranger and he will certainly be wearing a mask. Hi ho silver and go
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October 16, 2013 at 4:53 pm
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neepheid says: (840)
October 16, 2013 at 3:48 pm
By the way, I read on KDS that Stockbridge’s house in Bearsden …
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Which reminds me, it seems RM has been offline all day. A shame, because I was interested in what the Bears’ views on the latest developments would be.
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Let me summarise: It’s all (Neil Lennon, Peter Lawell, the SFA, the SPFL, every other team in the leagues, the taxman, the banks, the BBC, the DR, the Herald/evening times, RTC, PMcG, CQN, TSFM, the government, the council)’s doing because they hate us!!!!! (I’ve omitted the expletives and accusations, otherwise this would be a world record post!)
valentinesclown says: (241)
October 16, 2013 at 5:10 pm
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BigGav says: (44)
October 16, 2013 at 3:38 pm
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Is a bus driver now at the helm of the Titanic?
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There may only be one Lone Ranger and he will certainly be wearing a mask. Hi ho silver and go
££££££££££
Plenty room inside, cumoan! Getafff! Fares please!!!!
The Bearsden house is indeed up for sale. I won’t post the link here but it’s on the market. The end is in sight.
Angus1983 says: (1169)
October 16, 2013 at 4:53 pm
Which reminds me, it seems RM has been offline all day. A shame, because I was interested in what the Bears’ views on the latest developments would be.
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Well, without a CEO to pay the electric bill, maybe power to the server has been cut off.
Or maybe 500 million bears all logged on at the same time to express their full support for the Board (what’s left of it), and crashed the system,
I tell you what, I’d love to be salesman selling Club Ties to Ibrokes. Sales would be moving into the realm of FMCG (fast moving consumer goods). You would need to put Ibrokes on a weekly call cycle 😆
Joke of the day from Big Phil.
” Remember Sevco, a CEO is not just for Christmas.”
It’s always interesting to see what a company say’s about itself. The RIFC Plc website states the following:
“The Board is committed to the highest standards of corporate governance.”
It goes on to say:
“At all times, the Company will have a balanced and experienced Board who will seek to eliminate conflicts of interest. The Board will meet monthly and other times as necessary. The Board will provide leadership, strategic oversight and a controlled environment to sustain delivery of value to all shareholders and success to the Company.”
All the assurance needed for any shareholder fans and any other fans who are having doubts about the company that owns the company that owns the club that runs the football team 😆
No1 Bob says: (6)
October 16, 2013 at 5:57 pm
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Yes, and their official site (fully updated) lists all the current directors on its ‘Board & Management’ page.
Those two chaps look a fine body of men.
Interesting comment on STV there about the Dunfermline fan takeover, apparently the events of today have prevented the club going into liquidation and therefore rescued their proud 128 year history 😛
THE BIG DUPE FOR TRFC FANS
From Craig Mather’s statement today
“There was a positivity and excitement ahead of the new season and this was heightened by last weekend’s victory and slick performance against Albion Rovers.”
“. . . .when I and the other directors are trying to focus totally on taking Rangers back to the pinnacle of Scottish football.”
“ . . . .and all of the other directors are firmly behind Ally McCoist and his team
as we embark on stage two of our journey.”
For a season and a half, the Ibrox faithful have been handing over their cash to the Spivs
because they believed Charles Green
when he sold the fans the idea of the Rangers Journey – the comeback from the (old) Third division to the top of the (old) Premier League.
Craig Mather, still exhorting the faithful in today’s statement.
The Ibrox faithful bought it hook, line, and, ironically, sinker..
‘The Journey’, the way back, and by the way, when we get back, we’ll be doing payback, etc, etc.
Last season was stage one and now they’re in stage two.
Oh really ?
With Craig Mather leaving, it’s obvious the Govanites have been duped. Yes, the whole of the Ibrox support have been sold a dummy.
Yes, the Peepil. All of them. Duped.
In the Ibrox tradition, remember SDM duped by CW? Only right and fitting.
‘The Journey’ idea was a clever con, obviously, but it was conceived just to get the ‘Gers fans on board the Spiv’s gravy train.
To get them believing that this was where they were going and, naturally, to buy the tickets – for the journey.
But now, with Craig Mather’s departure, it’s crystal clear that this train’s going nowhere.
“Taking Rangers back to the pinnacle of Scottish Football” I don’t think so.
What now the passengers ? The Blue Duped ? A’ tickets and nae train driver. Gaun naewhere.
I can almost hear the weeping and grinding of teeth, the odd expletive,
and the sound of rage beginning to rumble.
For the rest of us
Take your seats, Ladies and Gentlemen, the show is about to begin.
‘Ibrox Train Wreck II’
A Charles Green Film
Directed by Craig Whyte
Produced by David Murray
Director in charge of Administration – Campbell Ogilvie
Note: no animals were hurt in the making of this film.
We are in an entertainment industry.
Meanwhile, in the Longmuir household, David sit’s expectantly by the phone. But will it be as CEO or Chairman? Decisions,decisions 🙄
Meanwhile, in the Longmuir household, David sit’s expectantly by the phone. But will it be as CEO or Chairman? Decisions,decisions
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Hello,Hello
“Is it me your looking for”
Chic Young an absolute disgrace on Sportsound at the moment.
Why do the BBC allow this clown on???
FFS C Young on Sportsound, D King not an issue concerning non paying of tax for 14 years, He has SETTLED with SARS. According to Chic the SFA have already preempted this and will EMBRACE him.
Chic’s words. Tom English asked what part of convicted do you not understand, Chic bumble bumble Rangers fans want him. Blah blah blah.
Embarrassing analysis from a journalist on a progamme paid by TAX payers. I repeat for the sake of Chico the clown Tax payers pay to listen to your biased Sevco propaganda. You should try the new motto from your wee secret team and WALK away.
Tom English is destroying Chick Young on Sportsound.
New Dunfermline Chairman: “unbroken 128 year history”.
So some people do actually get the difference between Administration and Liquidation….
Lots of rumours on the internet that McCoist has learned how to walk away. If that is true, then the money really has run out. He would never walk away from his package if there was any chance of it being paid. I don’t blame him, by the way- I wouldn’t walk away from £750k per annum unless they stopped paying me. Anyway, looks like even more fun and games tomorrow.
at least Jim is still in charge of the TV operation.
hope he minds to switch it off.
upthehoops says: (557)
October 16, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Tom English is destroying Chick Young on Sportsound
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I look forward to listening to the podcast later on. I’m listening to SSB. John from Worscester has just did the destroying thingy with Keevins. “Rangers were run very efficiently until CW took over.” John – “So efficiently that Murray sold them for £1.”
upthehoops
English is a disgrace ,having a battle of wits with CY an unarmed man
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Unbelievable glib and pathetic performance from Chic Young on BBC Sportsound, couldn’t believe after all that has gone on before and all that has been talked about on that programme that this man is still bleating away at the same Rangers mantra – the man is worth his weight in tattie peelings
Listening to Chick on Sportsound I remembered this:
‘From: Stephen Kerr
Date: 10 August 2011 Subject:
RE: Kenny Miller Reports In Today’s Papers – Update
To: Stephen Kerr, Craig Whyte, Ali Russell
Cc: Ramsay Smith, Alistair McCoist, Gordon Smith, Irene Munro
Hi
For info, the story below is appearing in the Evening Times second edition and online this afternoon.
Darrell King is also nailing the Miller story and defending the Club’s position on Radio Clyde’s phone in show tonight.
I have spoken to Jim Traynor and the Record will reflect the Club’s position tomorrow – we are working up a statement now for them.
Regards Stephen’
It seems to be very easy for some clubs / companies/ whatevers to get their views mentioned on the radio.
Madbhoy24941 says: (293)
October 16, 2013 at 6:54 pm
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New Dunfermline Chairman: “unbroken 128 year history”.
So some people do actually get the difference between Administration and Liquidation….
As a fan of Glasgow’s oldest professional football club, I can confirm that some people do understand the concept.
Chicko has totally lost it.
He said
“It was Lloyds Bank who sold Rangers for a £1. At that time the debt was totally manageable”
If that wasn’t 100% nailed on proof that Chico is on the payroll i’ll eat my hat!
Only a committed sevcoite could spout his sh1te on national radio
TE must beware of tackling Chico. As Mark Twain had it:-
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
DK packing his budgie smugglers and heading back to blighty? About as likely as Gideon Osbourne finding humility.
He knows when he’s well off.
Any update on Ally handing back the Audi keys?
Who will ratify Ally’s new contract?
Rangers will be one of our talking points on #scotnight. After the CEO quit, who’s running the club & what does the future hold?
https://mobile.twitter.com/ScotlandTonight/status/390534234202726400
One of Chicks better interviews when he does actually tell the truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPE-OxBcrsU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Listen there hasn’t been an agm at any rangers in three years …. Ah know there was an old rangers but am seriously big time undecided if there actually ever existed a new rangers … sorry any new rangers …IS and New CLUB/co undecided … knat kno … …. Big Man … so where they been the past 3 years ? Knat !
So who is running – the Sevco charity wing now?
Do they comply with the ‘recommendations’ of the supposed investigation findings into the stealing of charity money by a football club/business ?
Exiled Celt says: (715)
October 16, 2013 at 4:45 pm
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Phil’s tweets getting interesting………….
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Exactly, King’s fine was related to sentencing rather than to guilt or innocence.
He admitted guilt, with the agreement that he would pay a fixed sum including a penalty.
He is therefore an admitted / convicted tax fraudster.
The end is in sight for Sevco investors….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y5LiT2D2nE
Reilly1926 says: (150)
October 16, 2013 at 7:06
I look forward to listening to the podcast later on. I’m listening to SSB. John from Worscester has just did the destroying thingy with Keevins. “Rangers were run very efficiently until CW took over.” John – “So efficiently that Murray sold them for £1.”
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John from Worcester was a hoot. Very well spoken English chappie, but clued up like he was on here every day. Keevins totally froze, looks across studio to Delahunt with eyes that say, you’re meant to serve me up working class Glasgow oiks to humiliate, who is this guy?
Tif Finn says: (546)
October 16, 2013 at 7:47 pm
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Exiled Celt says: (715)
October 16, 2013 at 4:45 pm
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Phil’s tweets getting interesting………….
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Exactly, King’s fine was related to sentencing rather than to guilt or innocence.
He admitted guilt, with the agreement that he would pay a fixed sum including a penalty.
He is therefore an admitted / convicted tax fraudster.
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Or, according to the Jackster: an innovative businessman whose approach to matters of taxation was so far ahead of the curve that only a select few understood how he managed to support the South African economy almost single-handed; provide employment in the British Virgin Islands; prop up the balances of otherwise doomed sports clubs and donate large sums to government coffers when asked, on bended knee, by a SA high court judge.
Tif Finn
Do you think DK put it on his application for the chairman post .
If so ,he’s a brogue in
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Scottc
So what you advise is ,refrain from engaging in conversation with known Sevco 2012 followers .
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NOAG
love that clip one of my favs
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Exiled Celt says: (716)
October 16, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Thanks for bringing that to my notice, been busy catching up on here and haven’t looked at anything to do with my own club for a few hours. It’s certainly good news that things appear to be getting under way again but I will continue to wait for definite, positive, news before putting the champagne on ice (not that a celebration should be called for if Hearts do survive).
Just wondering, If the rumours are true about Sally walking away,is that the reason RM has not been available all day.
Maybe they don’t want any protests outside Ibrox until everybody has left the building.
Negotiating his severance package?
Or just incompetence from whoever runs RM.
Tif Finn says: (546)
October 16, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Exactly, King’s fine was related to sentencing rather than to guilt or innocence.
He admitted guilt, with the agreement that he would pay a fixed sum including a penalty.
He is therefore an admitted / convicted tax fraudster.
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Yet if many of the SMSM are to be believed, King’s tax affair amounted to no more than you or I receiving a red reminder for a utility bill then settling up at that point.
It’s breathtaking, it really is.
Keep hearing rangers made a £14M loss this year.
I thought it was just over £18M – £14M operating loss + a further £4M for non recurring costs.
Anyone confirm?
Chico’s performance on the BBC tonight was absolutely depressing and sadly not surprising. If he was on my payroll, I’d pay him to shut up at all times. I was almost laughing at some parts of it (but if I’d started, I might not have stopped, ever!), especially his insane defence of King and not knowing what “convicted” means!! Bleating about Walter (again), silent about Murray and trying to shout over the top of any (admittedly lame) criticism. Even Billy Dodds tried to ask if it wouldn’t be better for The Gers to move forward without going back to the past FFS!
I used to quite enjoy his around the world radio show but tonights performance has convinced me he is a stuttering, closed minded, ranting, mis/ uninformed little apologist for criminals who have robbed us all of hard cash and sporting fairness!
He again repeated that he was told “waaaay back” that DK would be appearing at the end of it all. WHO TOLD HIM? He also understood that the fit and proper thang was being discussed by the SFA who have denied it (altho I bet they have). TE should have been on that like a shot but to be fair, I think he realised that trying to reason with an increasingly manic and voluble Chico was just not worth it. He is no longer connected to reality and should be pootling about on a boat on the Clyde or restrained and allowed to drool in private and NOT at TAXPAYERS (remember them Chico?) expense!!!
Chico Young showed himself up and let us all down tonight.
The BBC REALLY need to sort this out. His mic seemed to be a bit louder than TEs too but that might just be my speakers 🙄 or the fact he was begining to shriek like a cornered, fatally wounded peacock.
Disgusted
Anyone know what day is pay day at Ibrox?
Ok lets play fair and ask disclosure about every journo that want to back a lie ,I would gladly contribute to a disclosure fund that lets us know their back ground,two can play the game ,or more,eh ,Hugh.
scottc says: (317)
October 16, 2013 at 8:47 pm
Tic 6709 says: (461)
October 16, 2013 at 8:35 pm
Just wondering, If the rumours are true about Sally walking away,is that the reason RM has not been available all day.
Anyone know what day is pay day at Ibrox?
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Everyday by the looks of things.
Just listened back to the Tom English v Chic Dung spat on Shortbread tonight
http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/scotfoot
Reminded me a lot of the You Tube clip explaining debt to a future sevconian.
Tic 6709
The Sally rumour could cause a crash in Greggs share price ,then again if Sally is into comfort eating they could soar 😛
Tic 6709 says: (462)
October 16, 2013 at 8:54 pm
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scottc says: (317)
October 16, 2013 at 8:47 pm
Tic 6709 says: (461)
October 16, 2013 at 8:35 pm
Just wondering, If the rumours are true about Sally walking away,is that the reason RM has not been available all day.
Anyone know what day is pay day at Ibrox?
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Everyday by the looks of things.
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I imagine Mrs Mather will be asking her husband tonight if he can get any more short term contracts like the one he’s probably left with several hundred grand in his hip!
Enough is enough!
Here is the text of the letter I am now this minute going down to the pillar-box to post, even though it’s pissing down.(As ever, real name and address supplied)
“Ewan Angus,
Head of Sport,
BBC Radio Scotland,
40 Pacific Quay,
Glasgow, G51 1DA
Dear Head of Radio,
Re: Mr ‘Chick’ Young, of BBC Scotland ‘Sportsound’
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Freedom of speech is cherished by me as much as by any broadcaster or newspaper journalist.
But freedom of speech does not extend to freedom to misrepresent and/or tell lies.
I wish therefore to complain in the strongest possible terms about the outrageous attempt by ‘Chick ‘ Young, on tonight’s ‘Sportsound ‘, to mislead the listening public as to the guilt of Mr Dave King, as a convicted tax evader in the republic of South Africa.
In spite of being corrected in point of fact by fellow panellist Tom English, Mr Young continued (excitedly, almost hysterically) to imply that King had, by ‘settling’ with the South African Revenue Service, not been convicted of any crime, and that there was therefore no question of him being considered as being not ‘fit and proper’ person in the eyes of the Scottish football Association.
The South African court records show that King pleaded guilty to scores of charges of tax evasion, but managed, by plea bargaining- including arranging to pay some considerably lesser sum than the total that was actually owed- to avoid several jail sentences.
He therefore has a criminal record, in South Africa.
If Mr Young is ignorant of that fact, shame on him as a journalist (and shame on you for employing such a useless person).
If he is not ignorant of that fact, then he should be instantly dismissed as a heavily partisan purveyor and disseminator (courtesy of our BBC licence fees!) of untruths in a matter of considerable public interest.
Further, the same Mr Young asserted that he knew that the SFA had already been talking to Mr King and had assured him (King) that they would have no objection to Mr King being involved in a boardroom capacity in a Scottish football club.
This outrageous statement was too much even for his fellow panellists, one of whom actually checked with the SFA and got a flat contradiction of what Young had said.
I must ask you to investigate this matter rigorously and urgently, and deal with Mr Young as severely as his outburst of partisan, misleading propaganda deserves.
Yours sincerely,
(real signature) “
The bampots are brewing something big:
http://www.internetbampots.co.uk/comingsoon.html
Worth keeping an eye on.
Heard wee Chico’s fairy tale on BBC radio podcast .
Dead clubs were only £18m in debt when the bank forced the mint to sell to that bad boy CW .
I think there may be 276 creditors excluding Lloyds that would disagree Chico .
That CW must be some guy to be able to run up a £139m debt in 7 months 🙄 😯 😯
Things keep seeming to repeat themselves within the corridors of power at TRFC/RIFC. Ahmad stupidly gets caught posting incognito on ‘Rangers’ internet sites – ‘forced’ to resign. Green, for no good reason, shows the world he is a racist – ‘forced’ to resign. Now Mather, stupidly, goes to court to defend the indefensible – ‘forced’ to resign. Now only Stockbridge remains, I wonder what ‘faux pas’ he’ll commit? Is Stockbridge hanging around merely to ensure Ahmad’s last cheque gets signed should the court find in his favour? One quantum of solace, for worried bears, might be that now there isn’t a quorum of directors there’s no one there to transfer Ibrox to RIFC – if it hasn’t been done already 🙄
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