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ianagain says:
March 29, 2014 at 3:06 pm
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March 29, 2014 at 10:06 am

ianagain says:
March 29, 2014 at 12:05 am
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Not sure what you mean by money talks as the teams budgets are not likely to be massively different although Afc spend a large amount on youth development which tends to inflate the “football” budget.


Apologies Im actually glad to be reading about some other wee team doing well.

I’ve painful experience of meeting the early incarnations of that well funded youth system in the form of Aberdeen boys club in Glasgow amateur leagues in my younger days and getting humped royally each time. Just jealously I guess. It was after one such occasion I realised I really wasn’t having fun any more and chucked it. Mind you one of the opposition was (If memory serves one W.Miller)


No worries Ian. Sorry if I got a bit defensive!

Sometimes I think it can be a good thing for your club to just keep performing well but keep out of the media focus a little.

Most of the media coverage is crap anyway.

Scottish Football: An Honest Game, Honestly Governed?
upthehoops says:
March 29, 2014 at 11:18 am
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Matty Roth @ 9:47AM

I’d also suggest that Aberdeen beating Celtic twice this season, with excellent performances to outplay their opponents has caught the attention of the media a little
I ma happy to concede Aberdeen were the best team in the cup tie at Celtic Park by quite a distance. To suggest Aberdeen outplayed Celtic’s ten men at Pittodrie is simply the stuff of fantasy though. The very least those ten men deserved was a draw IMO.

Outplayed maybe a bit far right enough! But you don’t just get a win over Celtic because the hoops had a bit of an off day or a refereeing decision went against them – it still has to be earned with 90+ minutes of effort and all the preparation thats goes into that.

And my badly made point was simply that I think having got those 2 remarkable results, a league cup win (just) and generally turned the club from bottom of the league regulars to top 3 contenders is a relatively big story for a week or two. I’m not sure how fans of other teams can claim the reportage of this is unwarranted. The turn out of 40,000 fans was also a pretty big story for scottish football.

This is all fleeting stuff, in 2 or 3 weeks I’m sure other teams will be in full focus (and I would not be surprised if its Motherwell and they’ve overhauled Aberdeen in the league at that point).

Scottish Football: An Honest Game, Honestly Governed?
ianagain says:
March 29, 2014 at 12:05 am
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upthehoops says:

March 28, 2014 at 11:51 pm



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A challenge in the pub tonight from a very good friend who does not support Celtic or Rangers. His challenge was simply why Aberdeen get much better press than Motherwell. He is not a fan of either club, but I can see where he is coming from, at least in terms of each club’s league performance. Thoughts?
Well we (at Well) are all fed up with it. Money talks (as usual)
However what happens on the pitch will be the proof.
Basically another MSM puff for the “young boys” at Dons and Dundee utd, good as they are we’ve our own (mostly younger but heigh ho) and I’m happy to see how it pans out.


I’m not sure how serious you are Ian but I think its simply a case of Motherwell being a victim of their own success over the last few seasons.

“Properly run team does really well again” just doesn’t grab the imagination as “Crapy run team finally comes good in huge turnaround on the pitch”.

Do so many people really begrudge Aberdeen some positive press for once?

Not sure what you mean by money talks as the teams budgets are not likely to be massively different although Afc spend a large amount on youth development which tends to inflate the “football” budget.

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Are we really supposed to believe that JB just happened to be the only player in Scotland placing bets and the SFA just happened to get their ducks in a row just as TRFC fell out with JB.
I find it just a bit too convenient.
I suspect TRFC reported their own player, which is up to them but what worries me is the SFA are able to act very quickly (once again) when the interests of certain teams are at stake.

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