Scottish Football: An Honest Game, Honestly Governed?

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Scottish Football: An Honest Game, Honestly Governed?
Donegaltim says:

March 30, 2014 at 1:13 pm

Until there is a much more even spread of wealth from the very top, then I’m afraid it’s much of the same.

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I think you are correct in your conclusion, but only if we are forced to play the CL game. Maybe the international box office of the CL now drives the game, but why do we need to take part in it? Who says we MUST be able to compete at that level?

National leagues thrived long before TV and European football. Maybe we are all just accepting the European model as a fait accompli. Maybe the answer lies outside the box?


Scottish Football: An Honest Game, Honestly Governed?
On the redistribution thing, I think the position of Celtic and their fans depends very much on how they see themselves in terms of Scottish and European ambitions.

There is little doubt that a significant redistribution of wealth is required to speed up the process of equilibrium which would see greater competition. If a Scottish platform is the one that Celtic see themselves occupying in the long term, then it follows that some kind of meaningful redistribution is required.

On the other hand, if Celtic see their future outside the Scottish game, it also follows that redistribution will be anathema to them, since they will be anxious to strengthen their credentials in a European sense to sue for membership of either the EP or a wider European League.

Of course there is always the possibility that there is an answer here which will satisfy both objectives in the short term – but I can’t see that ever happening 🙁

Big Pink has just sent me a very interesting interview he has completed for the Podcast with David Low, the business analyst who rode shotgun with Fergus McCann during and after his takeover of Celtic. In that interview Low sheds some light on exactly how he sees Celtic’s future. I won’t give anything away here, but I do think that the real debate will centre itself on what Celtic’s view is.

The Celtic “schizophrenia” that Stuart Cosgrove referred to in our last podcast may well be something that needs to be resolved before the game in Scotland can move on.


Scottish Football: An Honest Game, Honestly Governed?
Angus1983 says:

March 29, 2014 at 9:53 am

Actually, I always rather envied Partick Thistle 😉 for their red, yellow and black. Still no idea where the Maryhill Magyars name came from, though.
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It came from my old friend, the legendary writer Malcolm Munro, variously of the Express, Evening Citizen and Evening Times. Malky was a great fan of the 1954 Hungarian side who should have won the World Cup but got stage-fright in the final against the hosts (whom they had beaten 6-1 in the group stages).

A Thistle fan, Malky adopted the alliterative epithet as a conflation of his two favourite teams 🙂


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Have sent you a mail regarding the Counsel’s Opinion matter. Let me know when you receive it.

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I thought John should have a first look at the advice I have received. Will post later when JC has had a butcher’s.


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Can’t blame the TV companies for wanting to sustain their sub levels.


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