Scottish Football and the case for a Bismarck!

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Blindsummit63 says: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 at 17:55 I think better …

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blindsummit63 says:
Wednesday, April 24, 2013 at 17:55

I think better timing would be just before they start taking in season ticket money so Rangers will panic when the money doesn’t roll in as expected. Like about now?

Will the last person out please switch off the lights.

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Scottish Football and the case for a Bismarck!
Is tomorrow the big day when the big news comes out? Anybody any ideas what it is likely to be?

Hints have been thrown around like confetti for a few days now – with tomorrow the day it is likely to crash land on Ibrox. The sad thing for Rangers and Rangers fans – if I was told the news would be shameful, I would struggle to get the possibilities down to a Top 10.

There are so many permutations of who was and wasn’t involved, how it was done, and where / when it happened. A classic whodunnit like Cluedo. I think the first game finished like this:

It was SDM, with an Offshore Tax Scheme, on the Marble Staircase.

How will the next game finish? Who is holding the winning, and losing, cards? Hopefully we will find out soon.

Scottish Football and the case for a Bismarck!
TSFM says:
Thursday, May 9, 2013 at 18:19

You should never refuse to take anyone’s money in this economy. If William Hill want to make a contribution, grab it with both hands. William Hill have a strong interest in sport, as does this website. It is a good match for all parties.

In the meantime, I’ve made a small contribution. Keep up the good work.

[TSFM – Thanks. It is appreciated.]

Scottish Football and the case for a Bismarck!
madbhoy24941 says:
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 at 11:00

Unless Lee McCulloch has any pearls of wisdom on the current Ibrox crisis, he has nothing to say that is a matter of public interest. It is a non-story about a grown man acting like a wee boy.

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Precisely!  Why the differences?  There is no consistency in which clubs are rejected.  Assuming both are real, what are the implications?

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Has anyone seen this?

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TRISIDIUMMAY 21, 2016 at 22:54
EDIT/UPDATE:The video clip which shows the moron pushing the Rangers goalkeeper is outrageous. I can only imagine how scared that young man must have been, isolated as he was at that moment. I was scared for him just watching it and I have to say that I can understand Rangers’ immediate reaction on the basis of that incident alone. I hope they get hold of that arse.

100% agree.  A Hibs supporting family member suggested he probably gets worse defending a corner, but that completely misses the point.  Being surrounded by professional footballers, in a controlled environment, is nothing like being surrounded by over-zealous football fans.  You have no idea what is going to happen next.  I thought the big chap did very well to keep his cool.  I hope the idiot involved is found and prosecuted.  It is common assault, no excuses.

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RYANGOSLINGMAY 21, 2016 at 17:58

Hibs fans run on the pitch and attack Rangers players and staff and it is excusable, yet Rangers fans are the bad boys for singing a song? Don’t get me wrong, me and my mates were pretty horrified to see the reaction of the Rangers fans, but get a grip of yourself, you can’t just say Hibs fans were fine but Rangers were the baddies. Attacking the players and staff is not on, and according to the media reports I’ve read thus far Rangers fans only responded when the Hibs fans ran to the Rangers end.

I think every sane person is on the same page as this, but whataboutery is in overdrive at the moment.  I don’t know if has been mentioned, the very corner that the Hibs players celebrated the winning goal with fans is where the pitch invasion started.  This, for me, is where it all began.  There are rules about leaving the field of play to celebrate, and you can now see why.  All that said, you can’t blame the players either for how they acted in the moment.  Stewards should have stopped players approaching and celebrating with fans.  Emotions were at boiling point and there were only moments between the final goal and full time.  Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but maybe police should have got some extra cover down to that corner immediately after the goal and celebrations.  There was 2 full minutes for someone to make a decision and deploy the extra cover.

I want to mention one very important element in this story.  The goading of Hibs players and fans has been well documented – “Hibs’d it”.  This originated on Rangers forums and has been perpetuated in the media.  The Hibs players and fans went from disaster to triumph and that single moment of joy overcame them.  I’m a Celtic fan, but from a Hibs family so I know what it means to them.  My old Dad and nephews are all East Road season ticket holders.  They were at the game (not on the pitch, I may add).  Rangers fans, aided by the media, created and perpetuated such a disrespectful term.  Hibs players responded in the best possible way.  Sadly, Hibs fans didn’t.  The fighting that came next is not excusable in any way – a very small number of fans from each side should be ashamed of themselves.  That said, to approach the Rangers fans for a GIRUY is maybe understandable (but not excusable) in the face of weeks of very public goading.  

For the avoidance of doubt, most Hibs fans stayed where they should have in the stands.  I thought the rendition of “Sunshine on Leith” was a beautiful and proud moment.  Most Rangers fans left the stadium quietly at the end of the match.  Both sets of fans had an element that let their club down.  Both sets of fans were let down by the security measures put in place by the SFA and Police Scotland.

To answer your point, Ryan, Hibs fans in no way encouraged Rangers fans to sing songs about wading in the blood of Catholics.  Pitch invasions and pyrotechnics can happen anywhere (and frequently do).  The disgusting bigotry displayed by Rangers fans is something that, sadly, will likely be overlooked by authorities in this mess.

“Sunshine on Leith” on one side and “Billy Boys” on the other, says it all for me.

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Great win for Hibs, deserved winners of the game.  Interesting stat that Stokes had more attempts on goal than the entire Rangers team.  Says it all.

The match day was spoiled by two things – Hibs fans invading the pitch, promptly followed by the expected rendition of Billy Boys from the Rangers fans.  You can almost excuse the Hibs fans, so much disappointment then finally triumph.  The moment obviously got the better of them.  What can you say about Rangers fans?

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