SFM – The Next Steps


Tcup, you’re completely wrong re the TRFC* fans being willing …

Comment on SFM – The Next Steps by nawlite.

tcup, you’re completely wrong re the TRFC* fans being willing to accept gifts from Mr Ashley (aka the devil incarnate). Just have a look at their fan sites – you’d be amazed how easy they find it to compartmentalise their dislikes. They might hate Ashley and call him a b*****d for sending them 5 un-medicaled duds just to drain TRFC* of funds, but boy do they love Haris Vukcic because he could play a bit. There is no consistency. It’s as other posters have said about the loan – “that b*****d Ashley taking our badges and property. Pay it back immediately and get our assets back!” but “hang on, it’s interest free and we could use it for players, so let’s keep it”

There’s no consistency of thought so it’s easy to hold two positions at the one time.

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RyanGosling says:

June 19, 2015 at 11:12 pm

Take your point, Ryan, that the fans would obviously be happier if Ashley had lent only Vukcic, but the reality is that he lent them 5 players. So when considering the holistic question “Am I happy that Ashley lent us 5 players”, they refuse to answer Yes (given what Vukcic did for them), because they also want to compartmentalise their abhorrence of Ashley. It’s a bit unfair.

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If it’s a gagging order, does that suggest the retail deal is as sh*t as TRFC* have been suggesting?

SFM – The Next Steps
I wonder if DCK has inadvertently shot himself in the foot with his statement that ‘investors’ (including himself presumably, GASL caveat notwithstanding!) will invest “whatever it takes”. He qualifies this by clarifying that “whatever it takes” depends on the season ticket take. If it is as high as he hopes – a sell out no less! – the investors will need to put in less, but if take up is low, those investors will put in “whatever it takes”.

Looking at the fan sites, it is really clear that a great many still do not trust the new board and are waiting to see the colour of King’s oft-promised investment. If they wanted to , these fans could easily now decide NOT to buy and see what happens.

The only thing I can think is that he knows that those who boycotted the old board probably WILL buy because they now have their messiah in charge, while those who are still anti-King WILL buy because, well, that’s what they do – and did last year.

With the feeling from the fan sites, he’s not getting a sell out imo.

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