As we all know, this site emerged from the ashes of RTC. The wish of the original administrator of the site, one which I wholeheartedly share, was to keep together the wonderful community RTC had built, in terms of both personnel and spirit. There are still many individuals around who were also part of RTC, and regrettably many who are no longer with us. The RTC spirit however, that of a cross-party football site where issues can be discussed in a respectful and insightful manner remains. The “wisdom of the crowd” phenomenon is also with us to perhaps an even greater extent than before, and consequently SFM’s credentials as a formidable alternative to the print media have grown.
In recent times, many contributors have expressed frustration that we are pretty much a talking shop and little else; characterised as “a lot of gum bashing and no teeth”. I think that is fair comment up to a point, but then again our aim – up to now – has been to simply present an alternative view – a view that has increasingly become the fan view as opposed to the industry view (the industry being made up of club officials, players, and press).
In fact the way I see it personally, SFM has evolved to a point where it has become the watchdog (monitor if you will) of an industry which is subject to very little oversight. The Rangers situation will eventually be done with (no laughing at the back please), and like everything else will be consigned to history (albeit more than one). The same self-interest and lack of regard for sporting integrity though will still remain, and the need for oversight will remain also.
Having arrived at those conclusions, we have two alternatives; the first is to remain as we are (which is not a bad place to be), and the second is that SFM has to expand its role.
In recent weeks, the mods have met to discuss this, and we think that we ought to give the latter option a try. As to how we want to achieve that, and we have come up with a skeleton plan as follows;
1. We need to move into the area of gathering news content as well as commenting on what appears elsewhere;
2. We should act as a cross-club portal to get good fan site content from all clubs to a wider audience;
3. We need to highlight the positives in the game as well as the negatives;
4. We should become an actively campaigning body, aligning with fan groups to lobby for the changes we think important.
In order to achieve these objectives, more time will need to be spent on communication like podcasts, adding news content, expanding membership and building links with other fan groups. Time will also need to be spent setting up features, attending press conferences etc. Later in the year, one of the mods will have much more time on his hands to help achieve this.
Podcasts, premium content, labour, organisation and all of the above costs money, and ultimately a subscription based model backed by sponsorship seems to be our best way of achieving that. In order to give us a head start, we will in the next few months be putting together a business-plan and a pitch for Crowd Funding investment.
This is not to say that our existing model has been a failure. We have successfully managed to keep ourselves afloat through the ad-hoc generosity of people in our community, although the inability to keep the podcasts going has been a bit frustrating. Finding income streams which are more solid will allow us to respond to events more quickly (for example mounting an ad campaign to respond to some event or other, or buying new equipment), and hopefully achieve all of our objectives – and build a bigger audience base for our message.
Of course a move of this nature will require that, in the interests of transparency, anonymity of SFM will have to be set aside. That will not affect any of our contributors, and our practice of using (sometimes) imaginative names on the blog will remain. However, for crowd funding to be successful, we will require to have a board in place, and there is no hiding place from Companies House. The make up of the board is also crucial, and in addition to consideration of blog members for that role, we will be looking to have respected people from without.
I imagine there may be a consequent subtle effect on moderation policy to take into account.
The reason I have made this post is to keep the community up to speed with events. Although we have decided to move forward to see if we can get support for our business plan, that plan is by no means finished. As I said earlier, the “wisdom of crowds” has made our community unique and given it its credibility. There’s a lot more wisdom out there we hope to tap into before we go ahead with our initiative.
We already had someone in mind for chairman of the new board, but events have conspired tragically to rob us of that – and had the effect of postponing this announcement. However we would like to hear suggestions for suitable outside candidates for board and committee places.
We also want to hear from you if you have a suggestion to be added to our wish list of SFM function above – or even if you think it is a mistake to embark on this course.
This is a very big move for SFM, so we don’t want to rush into anything. We need to listen to what you folks have to say, because if the merging SFM is not considered a better SFM by our community there is very little point in looking to fund it.
Good Morning
I see Chris Jack has treated us to the revelation that the SFA’s ‘F&P’ decision on Dave King is due within the next 48 hours. It could be true. But I am inclined to join Allyjambo and others in being a little bit sceptical!
Here are some thoughts on it, if you feel inclined to suffer another Clumpany blog!
https://theclumpany.wordpress.com/2015/05/19/decision-time/
Enjoy the rest of the day!
Highlander says:
Member: (25 comments)
May 19, 2015 at 8:06 am
Stewart Regan said the following in 2012. Unbelievably, he is still Chief Executive of the SFA. Discuss.
“Without Rangers, there is social unrest and a big problem for Scottish society,” claimed Regan. “They have a huge fan base and to contemplate the situation where those fans don’t have a team to support, where those fans are effectively left without a game to follow, I just think that could lead to all sorts of issues, all sorts of problems for the game.”
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Actually, I think Regan deserves praise for his actions and foresight and maybe a Nobel Peace Prize for averting social unrest.
Instead of immediate expulsion from the SPL/SFL for Rangers, leaving thousands to roam the streets angrily on a Saturday, Regan has cunningly engineered a situation where The Rangers fans have learned progressively over three years that there’s more to life than football, leading them to spend more time with their wives, with their children and with their gardens. Regan has been so successful that if The Rangers folded after the play-offs only the hard-bitten fans, who are frequently on the verge of social unrest anyway, would react with anything other than resignation. And into the bargain, Regan has also created mirth without measure across the land on so many occasions for everyone else.
Of course, Regan’s Catch 22 is that he can never explain that it was exactly his plan all along – and how beautifully it has played out. Such is life!
From Sky, yet another former Celtic player sings that same old tune- or maybe more like a parrot cry.
http://t.co/YajJ1lnvyH
“Alan Thompson says Ronny Deila has done a good job at Celtic despite missing out on the treble, and is hopeful that the Old Firm derby will soon be returning to Scotland as a regular fixture.”
parttimearab says:
Member: (332 comments)
May 19, 2015 at 9:43 am
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Nice one. Like so much else, it’s just about to happen. Before the Hibs tie might bring out more punters though. Any minute now 🙂
On the Regan thing, same kind of stuff was quoted by James Richardson at the 45min mark on The Guardian Football Podcast. He was referring to the Lazio chairman who thought wee teams should be stopped from gaining access to the Italian top tier with TV contracts and poorly supported clubs being the main bugbears. To be honest, might not a few David & Goliath matches add some spicy garlic sausage to the dull pasta of Serie A? Lazio chairman is apparently on the board of the Italian FA annaw. Tut tut.
Btw, after that minute of Italian news there’s Barry Glendenning’s weekly, and weary, 20-second homage to Scotland.
When The Rangers win promotion, how quickly wil Ashley require his £500,000 bonus?
Will it push RIFC to the edge of insolvency?
Will Ashley aim to ring fence it in the courts?
Will King hand it over happily and readily in crisp readies?
Will Ashley offer to convert it to a loan secured against the remaining 25% of retail revenue?
Winning is just so complicated these days.
Highlander says May 19 2015 at 8.06 a.m
‘……there is the moral argument..’ (9th para of Regan’s statement as posted by Highlander)
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The ” moral argument” clearly was given scant
consideration,as we know.
It may be the case, for all I know, that every CEO in
every commercial undertaking is ‘ necessarily’ a
liar and cheat.
But for the CEO of a company whose shareholding
members are football clubs to attack the very
concept of sporting integrity simply defies all
logic,let alone “moral sense.”
“Protect competitive sport by wholesale cheating
by the very body responsible for governance of the
sport.” That is what Regan’s statement came down
to.
It is just too absurd that he is still in post instead of
being sacked as soon as he made such a
monstrously diabolic commitment to cheating.
That he followed up his commitment by crafting the iniquitous 5-way Agreement demonstrated beyond a peradventure that Scottish Football at the highest level was rotten at the core.
The late Turnbull was angered enough to use the word’corrupt’.
Sadly, the rancid,gangrenous flesh has not yet been scalpelled out.
It will be,though, sooner or later. And the cheats and liars will have sold their souls for very, very little indeed.
ll
ythat statement showed the rottenness at the hdeart of our sport.
neepheid says:
May 19, 2015 at 10:51 am
“Alan Thompson says Ronny Deila has done a good job at Celtic despite missing out on the treble, and is hopeful that the Old Firm derby will soon be returning to Scotland as a regular fixture.”
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Blimey…not much of a vote of confidence in Deila is it, Thompson suggesting Celtic might be relegated?
Talking of podcasts, Graham Hunter is doing a series of interviews, the first was excellent, Gary Neville. The second is Strachan and in it he talks of Celtic players he managed, how Aberdeen expected to win in Glasgow when they came down in the 80s and stuff about coaching kids when all you need is a football
News Flash
The Rangers getting promoted will make sod all difference to their financial plight:
• More STs and walk-ins sold – Bermuda triangle skim off the cream (allegedly)
• More merchandise sold – Ashley gets 75% plus full payment for unsold tat.
• More catering & hospitality revenue – onerous contractors live high on the hog
• More security needed – pay through the nose to les entrepreneurs onéreuses.
The Rangers’ share of that lot will be a long way short of fixing the current £1,000,000 over spend per month.
Then there’s all the pesky stuff about replacing a squad, a manager (?) and increasing maintenance costs of a listed stadium. Not to mention keeping the Four Gardeners of the Apocalypse in the manner to which they have become accustomed.
King’s idea of investment via a public share offer relies upon listing on a market, maybe ISDX, but their F&P test may be less malleable than the SFA’s. And they don’t like being seen as the knacker’s yard for broken down AIM nags.
The additional funding options are few and fragile to say the least.
And then there’s Ashley, so unreasonable asking for his £5,000,000 back and his £500,000 bonus
All too boring to cover in the press I know – but life’s a bitch and then you die.
Mibbes Mr King is waiting IN CASE Rangers win promotion as somebody else would be responsible for all the bonuses accrued ?
mcfc says:
Member: (1221 comments)
May 19, 2015 at 12:20 pm
King’s idea of investment via a public share offer relies upon listing on a market, maybe ISDX.
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The thing with that though is The People won’t take up all the shares, so there’s no way to stop Ashley hoovering them up. What are the SFA gonna do? Fine him another £7.5k? Deduct points? Expel the club? They’re powerless to do anything and Ashley knows this.
If the rumours of Ashley’s Anger are true then it wouldn’t surprise me if he makes such a move. A loss of a few million on the whole deal might be worth to save his reputation as a ruthless operator who shouldn’t be messed with.
Actually, that’s probably the reason King was so keen to delist. Solely to make it harder for Ashley to snap up the shares needed to oust him.
@ModgePKR says:
Member: (53 comments)
May 19, 2015 at 12:50 pm
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I think Ashley is waiting for King to fail – maybe with a wee nudge now and then. And let’s be fair – King will need to spend a tenner to get a fiver’s worth of value given all the financial millstones in the Ibrox books. Then the SFA will have the simple choice of letting Ashley buy a controlling interest or let them die. I used to think Ashley would be happy with King paying for the show while he makes a killing on the merchandise with his men there to keep tabs – but he’s realised that the RRM are just to much hassle day to day for that to work. The SFA will then have Ashley telling them how to run their business and that will be more painful for them than the last three years.
Is King jetting in for the big match tomorrow – or is there something good on the telly?
Surely the MSM have asked him?
Or does he not want to invest five quid in a ticket until he has the SFA’s F&P approval?
mcfc @1.00 p.m
‘…..then the SFA will have the simple choice of letting Ashley buy a controlling interest or let them die..”
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And Ashley knows, of course, that a Company headed up by a CEO like Regan and a president like CO who made it so plain that a certain dead football club must be resurrected at any and all cost to sporting integrity and anything resembling honour and truth, will again sell its soul.
Therein lies the real powerlessness of the deeply,deeply compromised SFA, that @ModgePKR referred to earlier.
The SFA do indeed have the power: they have so misused and abused it in the cause of maintaining civic order and avoiding Armageddon, becoming habituated to lying and spinning the truth, that Ashley just knows that they can, in effect, be brought to heel like snivelling dogs.
Fans demand Financial Fair Play rules as The Rangers Four sweep every category at Chelsea Flower Show.
OT
My apologies to anyone who tried the IVUE/Stalker addons for kodi
They have had a problem with a recent update and should be back working together in their happy wee marriage in the next 24hrs or so
Both will work independently at the moment
Just to let you all know
Another point to consider on when/if King is approved F&P…
We don’t know yet if King will put his hands in his pockets, and/or whether he would be hands-on like Murray was, [certainly in Murray’s earlier years at Rangers].
But King does like to jet in and give an audience to his favoured SMSM lapdogs.
So, worst case scenario could be that King does get involved.
TRFC, [or TRFC 2.0], plays at Ibrox for the forseeable future…
but King could make regular appearances in the SMSM glibly and shamelessly pontificating [ 😆 ] about how the Scottish game should be run, and how the SFA, SPFL and the clubs should bow down to the ‘mighty Rangers’ as they have kept Scottish football alive ! 😡
Regular media dispatches from such a tarnished character might just be the tipping point for many reasonable footie fans – myself included.
At risk of sounding like a fogey ( I concede the ‘old’, though), what’s the story on the techy-language SFM Radio stuff?
When did that appear?
Just thinking about Ashley’s options and it occurred to me that for Whyte, King, Murray (D) and Murray (P) administration was an unfortunate, embarrassing and unavoidable outcome beyond their control.
To Ashley, administration is a tool of the trade: precise, clinical, planned, timed and controlled to achieve a specific goal. He employs professionals specifically skilled in the art to ensure that it is so.
For example, anyone who saw the USC administration as only an outrageous act of brutalist capitalism missed the bigger lesson of everyday corporate re-structuring and optimisation: debts dumped, contracts voided, employees disposed of, assets transferred. All things Ashley is very familiar with and comfortable with.
Loose talk about administration as something that might benefit RIFC, TRFC, King, RRM and fans to the detriment of Ashley can only be seen as emotionally motivated wishful thinking.
You can be sure that King understands that now, if not before the EGM victory.
John Clark says:
Member: (849 comments)
May 19, 2015 at 3:27 pm
At risk of sounding like a fogey ( I concede the ‘old’, though), what’s the story on the techy-language SFM Radio stuff?
When did that appear?
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It appeared over the weekend JC.
An incredibly smart – but modest – Bampot made the suggestion… 🙄
It’s apparently only a test link at the moment, and I’m sure we will be updated with any developments, and when it might be useable.
Maybe Big Mike has contracted Rangersitis after all
Newcastle 15-16 strip
Quelle surprise! From twitter just now-
STV Sport @STVSport 1m1 minute ago
Rangers’ Dave King has been approved as a “fit and proper person” by the @ScottishFA: http://bit.ly/1cN16JP
Set the wallet free! Un-rein the millions! Jackpot for ‘Gers!
Scottish FA statement / Mr Dave King
Tuesday, 19 May 2015
Following the submission of an amendment to its Official Return by Rangers Football Club, the Board of the Scottish FA has considered the Fit and Proper status of Mr Dave King as a director of the club in respect of Article 10.2 of the Articles of Association.
Mr King provided substantial information in relation to the matters set out at Article 10.2 (h) and 10.2 (j) namely:
· He has been convicted within the last 10 years of (i) an offence liable to imprisonment of two years or over, (ii) corruption or (iii) fraud and;
· He has been “a director of a club in membership of any National Association within the 5-year period preceding such club having undergone an insolvency event”.
In considering the request, the Board of the Scottish FA has sought and received specialist independent legal advice, both in Scotland and South Africa, in respect of Mr King’s conviction further to the South African Income Tax Act and in relation to his previous involvement as a Director of the club. It has also received significant documentation from relevant authorities both within the UK and South Africa.
The scale of this due diligence is unprecedented but befitting the complexities of the consideration placed before the Board. During this exercise both Mr King and the club were fully co-operative and responded to all questions put to them by the Scottish FA.
On the basis of this advice presented to it, and having considered all submissions received from Mr King and the club in respect of this matter, the Scottish FA Board granted an approval, conditional upon further submissions from Mr King in respect of documented agreements with the appropriate authorities in South Africa.
The Scottish FA can confirm it has now received this supplementary documentation in full and the Board is satisfied Mr King is Fit and Proper in terms of Article 10.2.
Tartanwulver says:
May 19, 2015 at 4:43 pm
Set the wallet free! Un-rein the millions! Jackpot for ‘Gers!
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Slip of the keyboard. The last one should, of course, read ‘Crackpot for ‘Gers!’
Either way, TRFC fans are going to expect the cash to start flowing without any further delays. Put up or shut up time.
RIP sporting integrity in Scottish Football. Thank you SFA.
http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/item/9292-dave-king-statement
Dave King Statement
Written by Rangers Football Club
THE Scottish FA has today cleared the way for Dave King to become a Director of Rangers International Football Club plc. Mr King said:
“I am delighted with today’s announcement from the Scottish FA. I can now turn my attention fully to the task of re-building Rangers.
“The Scottish FA’s process has understandably been a long one given their recent negative experience with some of the previous board members, who were tasked with being custodians of the Club. It was essential that I dealt fully with all of the Scottish FA’s questions and provided them with everything they required, no matter how personal, in order to prove that there were no barriers to me joining the Board of Rangers International Football Club plc.
“I always maintained I would meet the fit and proper requirements of the Scottish FA once they had examined all the evidence and that is what happened.
“I said before that I must be the most scrutinised candidate in Scottish football history but, as I also previously explained, I was happy to accept this given the importance to the Club of having a Board fully comprised of individuals with the Club’s best interests at heart and who are all approved by the Scottish FA. We finally have that, and my colleagues on the Board and I look forward to serving the Club in the years to come.
“I thank the Scottish FA for their diligence in this matter and now it is time to look ahead and map out Rangers’ future. However, I will elaborate on that in the coming days because there should be no distractions ahead of tomorrow night’s match at Ibrox.
“This first leg of the play-off semi-final is absolutely crucial. I will be going to the match and I urge as many Rangers fans as possible to buy the remaining tickets to ensure a packed Ibrox. Together we can help drive the team forward.”
Dave King, May 19, 2015.
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It’s not surprising in the least, but on reading the SFA’s statement….. “”On the basis of this advice presented to it, and having considered all submissions received from Mr King and the club in respect of this matter, the Scottish FA Board granted an approval” …… there are no reasons given why FPP status was granted other than because Rangers and Dave King himself said that he was a FPP.
Was there no argument offered or considered that he shouldn’t be accepted as a FPP? (rhetorical question).
I think the King decision comes as no surprise whatsoever, let’s face it, we have all learned to recognise the patterns of behaviour of this SFA over the last 3-5 years, but it is staggering nonetheless that a convicted criminal is now set to be chairman of a large professional football club in this country.
As a fan of another team, I cannot accurately articulate how little I care about The Rangers, but I do find myself asking precisely what is the purpose of the SFA. It is clearly not to uphold the sanctity of the game, it is certainly not to ensure that ALL professional clubs play by the written rules and the standards that elite clubs should adhere to….and frankly what’s next?
Drug dealers & gun runners perhaps running football clubs?
We should be better, as a small country we have the ability to set standards of probity & fiscal & moral responsibility that other countries would envy & choose to model.
Instead, we have a corrupt game ran headed by a “horribly conflicted” little man who accepted a loan from a member club and remains in post abrogating any of the standards of behaviour that we should expect.
Shocking!!
neepheid says:
Member: (577 comments)
May 19, 2015 at 4:41 pm
Quelle surprise! From twitter just now-
STV Sport @STVSport 1m1 minute ago
Rangers’ Dave King has been approved as a “fit and proper person” by the @ScottishFA: http://bit.ly/1cN16JP
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Ding-ding !
Round 154 of the TRFC saga begins…
The SFA continuing to protect and develop the reputation of the Scottish game ? No.
And with this decision, all Scottish football loving fans are unfortunately tarnished to some extent as well. 😐
The second angriest and most disillusioned I’ve ever felt about Scottish football (after LNS). They don’t even feel they need to try and pretend anymore.
easyJambo says:
May 19, 2015 at 5:10 pm
…there should be no distractions ahead of tomorrow night’s match at Ibrox.
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And the procrastination continues! God forbid he should risk knocking the team off their stride by the thought that tens of millions of pounds will be coming to regenerate the club.
Sad, sad day for Scottish football and society.
There are no rules.
There is no integrity.
There is no sport.
Project this decision back into history and forget the words paranoid and cynical.
Whatever unfairness you imagined – it was worse than that – try harder.
Well that’s it official
The rules mean
F***:All
🙁
One can only wonder – who would be unfit and/or improper to be Chairman of The Rangers according to the SFA’s “illustrative guidelines”?
I have never expected any other outcome that the SFA would pass Dave King as fit and proper. What I did expect was some kind of convoluted explanation as to how he possibly could. The fact is they have offered nothing at all. However, while I expected it, it doesn’t make it easier to take. As a Celtic fan of many years I have often been accused (unfairly IMO) of paranoia. All I can say is if I am paranoid many things have happened over the years to fuel that view. Right now the SFA are hosing petrol on the fire.
Shameful doesn’t even begin to describe it, and now we will face days of triumphalism and supremacy, facilitated free of charge by their many media friends.
Any vestige of the SFA’s credibility disappearing aside, am I the only one that thinks this may not be a bad thing? Basically, he’s got no choice but to show the colour of his money now – with hilarious consequences.
upthehoops says:
Member: (697 comments)
May 19, 2015 at 5:27 pm
How do you feel about Mr Lawwell’s involvement in this. Should he explain his position and possibly resign his SFA role(s)?
mcfc
At least one normally well informed individual on Twitter suggesting PL voted against FWIW.
Truly, a new low for Scottish football, when it was hard to believe it could get even lower.
And the timing of this Dave king announcement stinks, giving “Rangers” a big boost a day before the first playoff game against Hibs. The SFA are now nakedly open about their loyalties, they don’t even try to hide it anymore. The only thing more dissappointing than this is the silence I expect from Hibs, and all the other clubs. They deserve what they get for their acquiesence in this charade.
The baw is burst!
mcfc says:
Member: (1228 comments)
May 19, 2015 at 5:34 pm
How do you feel about Mr Lawwell’s involvement in this. Should he explain his position and possibly resign his SFA role(s)?
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I have information I trust impeccably that Lawwell did not vote for King. Personally I would be delighted if he resigned with immediate effect. However that would only allow the cabal more leeway.
What a pity the late Paul McBride is no longer with us.
Graham Spiers @GrahamSpiers 32m32 minutes ago
Gosh, what a surprise. The SFA passes Dave King as “fit and proper”. Well I never.
Roddy MacKay @The_Badgeman 31m31 minutes ago
@GrahamSpiers Any truth in the rumour that Robert Mugabe is to be the new compliance officer?……
Axe The Act @malkybhoy67 30m30 minutes ago
@GrahamSpiers nick leeson would be cleared by the sfa if he promised to pump 50p into ibrox!!!
JPF(II) @AntonioPiccante 30m30 minutes ago
@GrahamSpiers Really, what did you expect? A convicted tax fraudster on an international level at a club of tax dodgers. #FitAndProperMyArse
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If PL did indeed vote against, then you would think that he would come under severe pressure to resign from the SFA by CFC fans at least ?
However, I would have thought that any F&P vote would have been conducted in strict anonymity / secrecy, for just such this reason.
Anyway – as predictable and disappointing as it is – the SFA’s F&P decision doesn’t make a fart in a gale’s difference to the actualités of King’s reputation in the business world. The fact he did not even object to the L&L comments on RNS is what will be remember by real investors and City folk – http://www.iii.co.uk/research/LSE:RFC/news/item/1375733/requisitioned-general-meeting?context=LSE:RFC
As Churchill put it; “trust is like virginity, you can only lose it once.”
So as far as King is concerned, OPM surely now means O-RRM-M and fan-money. It will be fun to watch.
btw now that RIFC has removed all AIM announcements from their website (but why?) and the RFC LSE listing is no more, this is a useful reference link: http://www.iii.co.uk/research/LSE:RFC/news
The battle is over the cheats have won I will never spend another penny on scottish football
Today’s Dave King decision, while not totally unexpected, is the last straw for this, now former, Scottish football supporter.
In the last 5 years there have been innumerable times when, as the SFA/SFL/SPL/SPFL and others were deliberating on an issue upon which “the good of Scottish Football” depended, I could have been heard to mutter “They can’t possibly, can they?”, or “They won’t really, will they?”.
Time and again they could, they would, and they did.
Well, following today’s landmark “We have no problem with a man with 41 criminal convictions being on the board of Rangers International Football Club Plc” decision, I will mutter no more, because when it comes to the team playing out of Ibrox I already know the answers:
THEY CAN AND THEY WILL!!
There are clearly no depths to which our governing bodies, and the clubs who rely on the fans for their very existence, will not sink.
Unashamed to say I am a Celtic supporter.
I would be absolutely disgusted and ashamed if it comes out that the Celtic CEO voted in favour of King being ruled fit and proper.
In my opinion Peter Lawwell needs to resign from his position on all SPL boards to retain any credibility within the Celtic support.
The SFA – a parcel of rogues. The glib one will seem among friends. Disgusting decision.
upthehoops says:
Member: (698 comments)
May 19, 2015 at 5:51 pm
I have information I trust impeccably that Lawwell did not vote for King. Personally I would be delighted if he resigned with immediate effect. However that would only allow the cabal more leeway.
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I don’t doubt your source, but shouldn’t we hear it from the man himself on such an important matter?
Mibbes I was wrong about Mr King’s willingness to part with his (grandweans’?)cash, after all 😳
Surprised by the BBC website though , mentioning his tax convictions and liquidation .
Dave King is Fit and Proper??? Well at least we all expected it and none of us are surprised by it. As I said before a great deal depends on what question(s) the SFA asked SARS and others in RSA to get the answer they wanted? We should demand to know who they asked and what the answers were!
My interest will be too see what the other 41 Member clubs themselves say? Are they going to keep quiet because it suits them (for whatever reasons) or is someone going to stand up and ask the SFA to explain their decision in detail to the clubs and the football public.
I presume the cartel on the 6th floor is such that if anyone dared complain they would refuse them the rights to (sic) lodge an appeal.
SFM – thanks for giving ma baw back
OK, no surprises there then being passed – but I am surprised that the SFA felt emboldened enough to not even bother applying any conditions whatsoever to King’s F&P status.
And will anyone in the SMSM query this decision – and how it reflects on the clubs and Scottish football in general ?
If the SMSM plays it safe and simply copy/pastes the issued statements and subsequent PR p!sh…
then absolutely nothing will have been learned, changed or improved at the SFA or amongst the sports SMSM over the last 3 years+.
SFA – some potetnial RIFC directors you may want to check out against your “illustrative guidelines” – http://www.planetrulers.com/category/dictators/
Let’s see the dosh now, Dave. Surely ra peepil need a money fix–you know it makes sense. Re Lawell and his position in the SFA, he is only one man. One man’s vote can’t shake the others. What he can do at least is serve as some kind of brake.It needs someone other than Lawell to put their head over the parapet and lead.
Qatar profoundly embarrassed by football corruption – reconsidering friendly with Scotland after King F&P decision.
In some ways it’s interesting that the SFA hasn’t bothered trying to explain. All it has said is that it asked for “lots and lots of documents” and, eventually, got them.
It must realise that the bampots, who know it, the SFA, has as its top priority the wellbeing of its new favourite team (whether out of love for the old club, like Campbell, or a desire to aggrandise the game they “run” and thereby themselves, like Stewart) are not going to accept this as an explanation.
Maybe one reason for the delay was that it was working hard, with all its best Brysons on the job, to come up with something. In the end, Campbell, Stewart and even Sandy weren’t able to offer anything, which suggests they know that we know that they know that there is no plausible explanation.
Teacher’s pet avoids belt again.
Forgive me if I fail to faint.
Well if they continue with the same business model Mr King worked with before under 2 separate owners
Were can the SFA hide when TRFC crash &burn
They have endorsed and encouraged
This said outcome
So the SFA blinked first. Their favoured sons will now be invested in.
I’ll Have What He’s Drinking
“The opening months of the new boardroom regime have seen consolidation, a bid to restore a sense of stability and the beginning of some long-term thinking, but issues still need to be addressed. “, Richard Wilson.
Richard, Richard, Richard, where did it all go wrong?
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I’m not sure about the big stooshie regarding King – let them stew in it!
Did the sfa not say they were waiting on confirmation from the club that he was F&P so if it all ends t*ts up they will pass the buck again.
It’s still a basket case of a club with money pouring from every orifice and it won’t matter who is wearing the brown brogues – im sure Slaters have had his blazer waiting to be collected for weeks.
mcfc says:
May 19, 2015 at 5:59 pm
I don’t doubt your source, but shouldn’t we hear it from the man himself on such an important matter?
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I accept that Lawell may not be able to comment- that is understandable. However,if he can’t speak out, then he needs to resign immediately from any SFA role. It’s as simple as that.
John Brown coming across very badly on Sportsound. An angry unpleasant person singling out Jim Spence & Tom English as having a campaign against ‘Rangers’ — the only dissenting voices to the ‘Let’s move on’ attitude of the others in the studio.
Shocker.
The Rangers nil? Who missed the penalty? says:
Member: (54 comments)
May 19, 2015 at 5:58 pm
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I will enjoy the Cup final.
Last Scottish football match I am attending.
I wonder if the players will wear masks and capes?
Passing King as “F&P” amounts to a guilty plea to the charge of corruption by the SFA, while asking for 29 other offences to be taken into consideration.
Hoist the banner: Liars and Cheats are welcome here…
The depth of this move is unprecedented.
The fact that we expected it says too much.
So it has come to pass-no suprise, it was always going to be so.
It flies in the face of company law but that doesn’t matter to the SFA who have discretion. For discretion read anything they can do to help Sevco.
The SFA are corrupt and spineless but this has always been so. They don’t care that we know it.
By all known laws of economics Sevco ought not to have survived,but they have so far.
Proof that a section of society will do whatever is needed to maintain a team out of Govan irrespective of finance, logic or laws.
The ball is burst.
I am not one for throwing the dummy out of the pram but enough is enough. I am, and for what is left of my life, will always be a Celtic supporter. I have now no interest in Scottish football.
Today in Italy over 50 people were charged with betting scams in football in an operation which the Italians titled “Dirty Soccer”
Dirty Soccer does not even begin to describe the thoroughly rotten entity we have overseeing our game.
At what point did the SFA judge that King had stopped being glib and shameless – surely after the “I’ve got a new nomad” point, surely after the “50/50 investment point” – but when exactly and did T3B give evidence?
Danish,
There are (at least) 3 sides to the lets move on argument though.
Firstly, the obvious Campbell version, lets move on as there’s nothing and certainly not a club liquidation to be seen here, at least not one that matters.
Secondly, Lets move on, because we (the Richard Wilson’s of this world) don’t like where we are – and I make no apology for use of the word ‘we.’ I consider this version as akin to standing on the window ledge of a burning building – damned if you do but its the best offer you’re going to get. Here’s hoping King catches them, and doesn’t just promise to catch them, honest!
The third version is probably the bampot version. Putting aside the genuine and completely understandable disgust expressed today the third version comprises ok, but what now? Personally I’m fully expecting King to indicate that he will splash cash either before the hibs/motherwell ties or season ticket day, whichever will carry the biggest bang for buck with the mug.., sorry punt.., sorry, investors. Notice I said indicate that he will invest, not actually permanently invest. There’s a big difference. But, as others have frequently pointed out on here, he can lump in £10m tomorrow if he wants, a fantastic sum to any club, and it won’t even get him to December.
Only one thing needs to be said, with respect to all other championship sides. ‘Mon the hibees.
maybe dave used sfa’s own stock answer on them
“och, yer no still goin on aboot that ur ye”
@Smugas, he’s jetted in, according to @STVGrant. The size of his warchest should be interesting. £10m is surely the minimum.
Hats off to Jim Spence for at least questioning the decision despite a three pronged attack from Bomber,Wilson and Ferguson.
Absolute disgrace BBC Scotland these days
mcfc says:
Member: (1232 comments)
May 19, 2015 at 5:59 pm
I don’t doubt your source, but shouldn’t we hear it from the man himself on such an important matter?
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I would be delighted if he spoke on the matter, although I believe other significant people within the Scottish game will not be happy either.
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