Apologies for the lack of activity this past few days. I had been expecting a guest blog, but it has failed to materialise thus far. I will endeavour to get that together over the next few days. In the meantine, the moderators would like to thank everyone for their cooperation in keeping some sanity in the face of the recent trolling activity. The self-policing aspect has been admirable over the last few days – as has the level of scrutiny applied to the information which has been coming in.
There have been, understandably, some comments on the blog and elsewhere about a perceived obsesssion here with Rangers and their offspring. Whilst I agree that the focus of this community should have a wider perspective, I don’t think it is obsessional to engage with the big story of the day – in fact it is neccessary that we do so.
Ultimately though TSFM’s longevity will depend on our ability to look at the wider issues, and that is at the top of our minds. We have recently been approached by some people about the possibility of our creating and publicising our own Scottish Football Financial Secrecy League in line with that created a while back for Christian Aid. That may give us some credibility as a watchdog, and utilise the expertise that many contributors have offered so freely in the past.
Right now though the new Rangers show is still headlining, and it is of interest, in the light of the impending share issue, whether the economics of running the new Rangers is really as precariously balanced as has been claimed by some of our number.
If our supsicions of Charles Green’s motives are correct, then we are bound to demonstrate why we think the share issue could be a device to either pay off Ticketus, or Green’s investors to the detriment of the fans.
If the new club’s finances are as precarious as has been stated, then it would point to the share issue being used as a cut and run exercise; but I am not at all convinced of that precariousness.
For example, I don’t accept that The Rangers are paying players an average weekly wage of even as much as £2500. I suspect that the actual figure is considerably less than that, and I hear that basic salaries for the higher quality new players is nearer the £1500 a week mark, with considerably less being offered to the younger guys. Of course performance bonuses would be added to that, but if my figure is correct, Green has a considerable amount of headroom to pay those bonuses.
On the other hand, Green will not have the sponsorship bucks, the media cash, or the prize money that old Rangers would have taken for granted, so there is a defecit there. It may also be of interest to see whether the reported figures for ST sales can be verified. I don’t think it would be churlish for Rangers fans to demand proof of that success before stumping up for a share or two, but one would have to say that reported high figures may well influence an investment decision – and in spite of those impressive numbers (35,000 STs sold) private investors still remain in hiding. It is at times like these that Adam would be an invaluable asset, bringing as he did an alternative and forensic accounting perspective to the somewhat wishful thinking of our non-Rangers tendency 🙂
If the success of Charles Green’s project is determined solely by how much money he makes, then it is in the interest of Rangers fans that any plans to line his own pockets via a share issue (if that is really his intention) are exposed. If Green’s accusers are correct (and let’s not forget that Rangers diehards like John Brown are among their number), then we would have to assume that his biggest success yet has been to get the bears onside, buying imprssively high numbers of STs, after the initial hostility he faced.
Rangers fans who have involved themsleves in critical thinking over the matter will know that some serious damage to the new club will be the result if Green is allowed to pull off any such scam, but they will also know that if he is genuinely invested in the well-being of the club, he is probably their best hope.
That is the dilemma they face.
All talk of stripping titles and history is a red-herring. The real problem for new Rangers is not lost titles or trophy notches on an Ibrox crossbar. It is, as it has been all summer long for old Rangers, survival.
“What compounds the breathtaking hypocrisy of the SPL in this whole saga, is that the SFA, the SPL and us – as the new owners – took part in numerous discussions regarding the new company’s league status during which it was made clear that a deal was there to be done where ‘the EBT issue’ would be dealt with as part of a package of sanctions which would be implemented in return for membership of the SFA and a place in the either the SPL or Division One. We do not accept that people who are willing to come to an agreement on such matters then have a right to instigate a full blown inquisition when matters do not unfold as they thought they would.
__________
playing to the hordes again
__________
anyone would think he had shares to sell
“Neither the SPL, nor its Commission, has any legal power or authority over the Club because it is not in the SPL. ”
so, the club no longer claims to have won any SPL titles as it is no longer in the SPL?
lets face it chuckie, you are not attending tomorrow because YOU WERE NOT INVITED
this has nothing to do with you and your new club.
So Chuck spills the beans on the deals ND and SR were prepared to do with him and Bill Millar – as well as asking same question as I have been – why has SPL never done anything for 2 years?
The rest is playing to the galley – let’s hope it stirs some sort of comeback from ND……
Getting the popcorn ready for a cat fight – CG or ND…..
Monday`s Hullaballoo as promised
Good stuff from Mr Charles
He is on our side, he is asking the same questions we have been asking.
Mainly why has it taken so long to get where we are today?
Surely now is the time the MSM must side with their new darling and start to ask serious questions of the SFA/SPL and Regan, Doncaster & Ogilvie on why these investiagtions & hearings were not undertaking a few years back?
Administrators Statement
WRITTEN BY RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB
PAUL CLARK, of Duff and Phelps, joint administrators of RFC 2012 PLC (formerly The Rangers Football Club plc), issued the following statement today:
“I can confirm that the business and certain assets of RFC 2012 PLC – including the honours won by the Club – were acquired by Mr Charles Green’s consortium as part of the sale and purchase agreement.
“The SPL have been in contact with RFC 2012 PLC with regard to the SPL’s Commission which is examining Rangers’ historic use of EBTs. However, having taken legal advice, it is the Joint Administrators’ opinion that the SPL is not able to pursue RFC 2012 PLC in this matter.
“The SPL have stated that the Commission is empowered to review the use of EBTs under the contract between the SPL and its member club. RFC 2012 PLC no longer has a contract with the SPL and therefore the SPL has no jurisdiction over it.
“This has been communicated to the SPL and considering that further involvement in this matter is not in the interests of its creditors, RFC 2012 PLC will have no further involvement with the Commission.
“Our primary role as Administrators was to rescue the business which has been achieved by Charles Green and his consortium and whilst any sanctions the Commission may levy will not affect RFC 2012 PLC this process would not appear to us to be helpful to the ongoing revival of Rangers.”
Tagged under Duff and Phelps Administration
PAUL CLARK, of Duff and Phelps, joint administrators of RFC 2012 PLC (formerly The Rangers Football Club plc), issued the following statement today:
“I can confirm that the business and certain assets of RFC 2012 PLC – including the honours won by the Club – were acquired by Mr Charles Green’s consortium as part of the sale and purchase agreement.
“The SPL have been in contact with RFC 2012 PLC with regard to the SPL’s Commission which is examining Rangers’ historic use of EBTs. However, having taken legal advice, it is the Joint Administrators’ opinion that the SPL is not able to pursue RFC 2012 PLC in this matter.
“The SPL have stated that the Commission is empowered to review the use of EBTs under the contract between the SPL and its member club. RFC 2012 PLC no longer has a contract with the SPL and therefore the SPL has no jurisdiction over it.
“This has been communicated to the SPL and considering that further involvement in this matter is not in the interests of its creditors, RFC 2012 PLC will have no further involvement with the Commission.
“Our primary role as Administrators was to rescue the business which has been achieved by Charles Green and his consortium and whilst any sanctions the Commission may levy will not affect RFC 2012 PLC this process would not appear to us to be helpful to the ongoing revival of Rangers
seen the administrator’s statement? Who would have thought the ‘big con’ just got bigger
“can’t touch us, we’re no playing anymore”
The Invisible Line says:
September 10, 2012 at 17:07
1 0 i
Rate This
So Chuck spills the beans on the deals ND and SR were prepared to do with him and Bill Millar – as well as asking same question as I have been – why has SPL never done anything for 2 years?
The rest is playing to the galley – let’s hope it stirs some sort of comeback from ND……
Getting the popcorn ready for a cat fight – CG or ND…..
——————————————————————————————————————–
Yes noticed that one as well re a claim that Mr Charles was given information (regardless of when) about another consortiums bid and negotiations.
So Mr Charles was sniffing around long before breaking cover?
If not then why was he given this information as it surely had no bearing on his bid?
The stink is higher than Grimsby Harbour.
So CG says T’Rangers are not liable as he only bought the history and the titles but is not responsible for them – Duff and Duffer (copyright acknowledged) say well we have RFC-NIL but we sold the titles and we no long are liable
Let’s hope ND has not let them out flank him here in his desperation to get them into the SFL.
Interesting though that Duff and Duffer say their primary role as administrators was to rescue the business – so now they admit the creditors were never in their thoughts…….
Can we get CG for receiving stolen goods? 🙂
Chuckles has obviously taken legal advice and it hasn’t been good. Indefensible even.
His statement has went down well on RM, how they can’t see through this is beyond me. It’s not even in the slightest bit clever. They pony up £10M in season book sales and he won’t spend a penny defending that which they hold most dear, the title of – Most Successful Club In The World (Linfield are No.2, in-case anyone was wondering). Has he over-reached?
“Our primary role as Administrators was to rescue the business which has been achieved by Charles Green and his consortium and whilst any sanctions the Commission may levy will not affect RFC 2012 PLC this process would not appear to us to be helpful to the ongoing revival of Rangers
_____________________________________________________________
erm no you didn’t rescue the business. That business was liquidated and a NEW company was formed!
Well who would have thought it
The monster they created is now turning on them
Hell mend all of them, because this is going to get dirty, very dirty
Great stuff from Duff & Duffer as well
This strategy alone shows that the two parties have been working together from day one to the disbenefit of the creditors.
Once again it is all coming down to clever legal manoeuvering.
Is it not the case that Doncaster is /was a lawyer?
Did I not read that Regan was one too?
Now it is surely time for a certain Campbell Ogilvie to step up to the plate and deliver a a fast ball on behalf of the SFA? Or perhaps not…………….
Looks like game on, some thinking green has laid the perfect ambush, we will soon find out.
On you go Charlie boy, keep digging that hole.
Have you ever had anything more ridiculous in your life? “We bought Rangers history and trophies”. Guess he forgot to say “with money we stole from taxpayers”.
Anyone here so disillusioned with the bodies rulling Scottish football that they are liek me expecting a statement from ND or SR along the lines of….
We are cancelling the EBT commission because as CG and D&D say, there is no entity we can find guilty – sorry folks – we did our best – move on now………….
Let’s not look into how they got away with it for 10 years
Let’s not look into how Sevco’s conditional membership meant a game against Brechin that was populated by 11 or more illegally registered players – including trialists.
Let’s not look into anything
Well – sorry – if I hear that answer, I will be straight onto my club to demand they ask for ND and SR’s removal
As was stated previously many months ago on RTC
Thats it started now…They will begin to devour themselves & each other…
& In the wise words of my late mother…When thieves fall out..
That statement. Wow. Just….wow…..
‘Once again I would thank our supporters for their patience and tolerance. They have been asked to take it on the chin time and again and we stand united in saying: No more. As far as I am concerned, Rangers Football Club has won a world record 54 league titles, and, whatever the decision of the SPL Commission, these titles cannot and will not be taken away from us’
Keep an eye on the ball here, The titles issue is a red herring as far Greene is concerned, but a potent and dangerous one when used to marshal the troops.
It is beyond belief that anyone would use this argument to stir up the hoards to line his own pocket, and the MSM in Scotland stands back and allows an outsider to literally destroy our game and potentially our society.
Great manouvre by the sevconians and RFC
I notice duff and duffers (copyright ack) statement was from Rangers football CLUB (interesting!)
I bet they are feeling very pleased with themselves right now. However, they have only bought some time – until the BTC comes out
once that comes out, the SPL can use the evidence released in that to make a ruling against the entity that was RFC and remove titles.
If Charlie doesn’t have to so-operate with the SPL as he isn’t a member, i’m pretty sure the SPL can tell them to GTF as “they aren’t a member”
Also, if the SPL can’t act, it will have to go to the SFA – they will need to decide
but overall, the SPL/SFL/SFA have played an absolute BLINDER here – in so much as they have made a total mess of it all, RFC are going to haunt them until they are all removed from office.
if they don’t sort this out in 2 days by simply removing sevcos SFA license (failing to meet the agreements to pay football debts and co-operate with dual contract investigation) then they are about to end professional football in scotland
congratualtions
You’d almost think Charlie boy knows that what’s coming isn’t good. Well, for Sevco and Rangers (RIP). 😀
Something in the wind?
How can Chuck boycott a meeting he wasn’t invited to? According to the beeb (i know) they state “There will be a procedural hearing on Tuesday and Wednesday involving members of the independent commission and lawyers from Rangers”
Note “lawyers from Rangers” and not directors, board members or a fat pie muncher masquerading as a manager.
Why would Sevco even be invited to the SPL commission? It’s not Sevco that are being investigated for years of cheating.
What did Doncaster say about “without fear or favour”? Now is his opportunity to show the nation he means business.
few very quick points:
1. Still no one able to confirm if *The Rangers were even invited.
2. Still no one able to confirm if Rangers FC were even invited.
3. Remember D&P recent report….. No mention of any agreement to take any punishment.
4. Are *The Rangers currently on a ‘temporary’ membership?
5. It is CG position that once the club moves on from a league structure in which they won (or bought in this case as *The RFC didn’t win any of those titles) league honours, those honours cannot be removed as they are no longer members…..
Seems they may not have been joking about wanting to stay in the SFL and claim their titles…. 🙂
I know UEFA have been appearing to steer clear of this mess but shirley they can’t allow titles to be ‘bought’ ….well not in that sense anyway….otherwise anyone fancy being the first scottish club to win the FA cup? just make Portsmouth an offer.
Roland Brown says:
September 10, 2012 at 17:17
0 0 Rate This
Administrators Statement
WRITTEN BY RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB
PAUL CLARK, of Duff and Phelps, joint administrators of RFC 2012
PLC (formerly The Rangers Football Club plc), issued the following statement today:
“I can confirm that the business and certain assets of RFC 2012 PLC – including the honours won by the Club – were acquired by Mr Charles Green’s consortium as part of the sale and purchase agreement.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Exactly. Club and company were one and the same and the administrators flogged the bits Charlie wanted to the new club.
If the two clubs were the same, no sale would have been required.
You’d think they might have chanced their arm with a cheeky bid for Celtic’s European Cup or Aberdeen’s Cup Winners Cup and/or Super Cup.
And let the bun fight begin…! 😉
Many indiscretions / confidential information might now start to be ‘leaked’ – and even reported in the MSM.
As for Sevco Rangers: Expulsion is the only adequate punishment.
Right Paul McConville, A report on my desk for 9.00am tomorrow 😉
Just a couple of points
The SPL investigation is not into the use of EBTs, it is the use of payments made outwith registered contracts
Sevco and the Double Ds deliberately muddy the waters by referring to EBTs and neither have ever mentioned dual contracts
Secondly, the alleged offences took place while RFC (IA) were in membership of the SPL, therefore the case can be heard and judged
As far as I am aware there is no statute of limitations, so his refusal to have anything to do with the investigation is spurious
Charlie is now openly taunting the Stooges, and now they know what kind of animal they are dealing with, they had better grow a set and deal with it
As Chamberlain found out to his cost, appeasement never works
Can someone tell the owners of Man City that instead of spenning millions to win the European Cup, it would be cheaper to buy Notts Forest and claim to have won it twice……..thus equalling Man Utd;s haul
Or is that just stupid…………..
I think there’s a good business opportunity here.
Why don’t we act as agents for anyone wanting to be European Cup Winners.Steau Bucharest might sell their history.
Anyone fancy a La Liga Title?.
Real Madrid have plenty and Ronaldo is demanding more money.I’m sure they’ed listen to offers.
Liverpool have never won the premiership.Why spend tens of millions on players when you could just go to cash strapped Blackburn Rovers and offer to buy theirs.
Bet I’d raise more money than the Crossbar Challenge. 😆
ignore the equalling Man Utd’s haul 🙂 but its still stupid
mirrenman says:
September 10, 2012 at 18:16
Right Paul McConville, A report on my desk for 9.00am tomorrow 😉
Was just thinkin that maself..!! 😉
So is Sevco Rangers implementing an effective – and topical – defence to allegations of cheating?
The ‘Lance Armstrong defence’?
He chose not to co-operate and thus defeated the allegations.
…what do you mean he lost 7 Tour de France titles? He was punished enough!
🙄
mirrenman says:
September 10, 2012 at 18:16
Right Paul McConville, A report on my desk for 9.00am tomorrow
————————————————————————————————–
Just for you,Mirrenman:
Paul McConville @Paulmcc12
Mr Green’s RFC statement is …rather confrontational! It appears at first glance to be inaccurate on a number of points. A blog post maybe?
Collapse
.@AlasdairMackie As Mr Green kindly waited for me to get home, it would be rude to pass up the implied invitation!
A key phrase from D&P states “certain assets were bought”. The key word is “certain”.
I recall Green stating during the Brown campaign that ownership of assets would be made clear next week. That was two or 3 months ago.
I recall the debates on RTC that the two main assets, Ibrox and Murray, were owned by Craig Whyte. He transferred them to a company in BVI, and in turn they were transferred to another BVI company. That company has only one director, Craig Whyte’s father.
Not The Huddle Malcontent says:
September 10, 2012 at 17:52
but overall, the SPL/SFL/SFA have played an absolute BLINDER here – in so much as they have made a total mess of it all, RFC are going to haunt them until they are all removed from office.
if they don’t sort this out in 2 days by simply removing sevcos SFA license (failing to meet the agreements to pay football debts and co-operate with dual contract investigation) then they are about to end professional football in scotland
congratualtions
_______________________________________________________________
I believe that you have nailed it sir.
The only credible response to the statement is to withdraw the SFA membership and licence to play football. Any other response or lack of one, confirms that sevco now run Scottish football and are untouchable.
SR and ND, and your handlers. Total amateurs. You created a monster and it’s now on the rampage. Well done. You’ve killed Scottish football and significantly damaged it’s civil society as part of the fallout.
StevieBC says:
September 10, 2012 at 18:27
So is Sevco Rangers implementing an effective – and topical – defence to allegations of cheating?
The ‘Lance Armstrong defence’?
He chose not to co-operate and thus defeated the allegations.
…what do you mean he lost 7 Tour de France titles? He was punished enough!
————————————————————————————————————————
Maybe he didn’t lose them.Maybe he sold them!.
It’s all the rage,you know 😉
Couldn’t the SPL just say,
“No,you’re not a member of the SPL,and you never will be”.
Just a thought.
Right Donkey, are you a man or a mouse ?
It’s time for a response from you, and it had better no be along the line of “Cheese please”
All of the bampots told you what was going to happen, but you ignored us, and look at what has happened
Don’t ignore us this time
hey stewart, thank goodness he got censured recently.
you’ll need to get the big guns out and go straight to a suspended sentence this time.
Regan and doncaster will do nothing – we know this from past experience .
Titles allocated by the SPL, being removed by the SPL. Makes sense to me.
More dog whistling.
This guy needs his wings well and truely clipped. I remember Yugoslavia, a football game, soldiers, Boban and the rest is history. Why is this guy being allowed to continue with his continual attempts to have unrest on the streets in his persuit of money.
Phone the Polis somebody.
tomtom says:
September 10, 2012 at 15:41 £1.50 for a ticket and £20 for the hire of boots. Bet you they only have the Stanley Mathews Goliath’s available (soak for two days before wearing, and then hammer in the studs)
———————————————————————–
Actually Matthews was the first British footballer to take on the idea of lighter football boots (which he’d noticed other teams use while on international duty) and even contributed to the design of new British boots.
See http://www.footy-boots.com/sir-stanley-matthews-football-boots-go-to-auction-8859/
If Sevco’s membership is conditional, perhaps it is time to review it
This is now going to be a battle over who runs Scottish football, and whatever the result, our game is damaged beyond repair
I hope the MSM are proud of their part in this, but listening to SSB tonight, it’s obvious they don’t have a clue as to what is going on
Charlie has effectively called Celtic out as well in that statement, and silence is now no longer golden
johnnym says:
September 10, 2012 at 18:08
I know UEFA have been appearing to steer clear of this mess but shirley they can’t allow titles to be ‘bought’ ….well not in that sense anyway….otherwise anyone fancy being the first scottish club to win the FA cup? just make Portsmouth an offer.
________________________________________________________
OT I know, but didn’t Queens Park win it? Just wondering.
I apologise for repeating myself.
Anyone who attempts to analyse Green’s utterances is wasting valuable time. Smokescreen, smokescreen, smokescreen. He wants to just collapse the whole edifice and grab what he can and run. The irony of it all is, he thought with all the hyperbole he has engaged in, the edifice would have collapsed long before now, and, funnily enough, it would have in any other organisation that had a scintilla of integrity or pride. His one mistake was he never factored in the SFA and the low lifes that operate there.
If his latest rant does not bring down the sky watch out for even greater recklessness to achieve his aim.
Think Charlie Bhoy is goading the authorities to expell T’Rangers. He would then have to “walk away” with all that season ticket money as there is no football to be played?
At last! Rangers granted SFA membership as Brechin match is given go-ahead
By SPORTSMAIL REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 21:37, 27 July 2012 | UPDATED: 21:58, 27 July 2012
Comments (0)
Share
Rangers will be re-launched against Brechin on Sunday after Sevco Scotland were granted conditional membership of the Scottish Football Association.
The Scottish Football League announced that agreement had been reached following weeks of discussions, releasing a statement on behalf of the three football authorities while the Ibrox club also announced they had signed an agreement.
The SFL, SFA and Scottish Premier League statement read: ‘We are pleased to confirm that agreement has been reached on all outstanding points relating to the transfer of the Scottish FA membership between Rangers FC (In Administration), and Sevco Scotland Ltd, who will be the new owners of The Rangers Football Club.
‘A conditional membership will be issued to Sevco Scotland Ltd today, allowing Sunday’s Ramsdens Cup tie against Brechin City to go ahead.
‘Following the completion of all legal documentation, the Scottish Premier League will conduct the formal transfer of the league share between RFC (IA) and Dundee FC on no later than Friday 3rd August 2012.
‘At this point, the transfer of Scottish FA membership will be complete.’
The document revealed Sevco, who bought Rangers’ assets for £5.5million last month, had agreed to accept a 12-month transfer embargo, beginning on September 1 and settle all of the old Ibrox company’s football debts of around £3million.
The SPL investigation into alleged undisclosed payments to players, which centre on the use of employee benefit trusts (EBTs) that are the subject of an ongoing tax tribunal, will continue despite resistance within Ibrox.
And both leagues have reached agreement on the SPL securing the broadcasting rights to Rangers’ Third Division games in order to safeguard their television deals.
The SFA have also been satisfied by information on Sevco’s shareholders and business plan.
Ibrox chief executive Charles Green confirmed he had signed the agreement but vowed to fight any SPL sanctions, which could see Rangers stripped of titles.
Green said in a Rangers statement: ‘In reaching the agreement, the board has had to take some very difficult decisions to gain SFA membership, including accepting the delayed transfer ban and paying outstanding financial penalties, but we are now able to get back to playing football and plan for the new season.
‘The agreement enables the Club to move forward but there remains an outstanding issue with the SPL regarding EBTs.
‘As we have proved in the last couple of months, we will stand up to any challenges that face Rangers and will continue to fight for the club’s best interests.’
However, in a separate statement released by the club but attributed to Ally McCoist, the Ibrox manager vented his anger at the SPL and SFA, accusing them of refusing to allow the club to move forward.
McCoist said: ‘No-one is denying that Rangers were badly mismanaged for 10 months. Nor are we disputing that we should be punished for that. We have been. We accept that punishment and want to start putting the past behind us and move forward.
‘But that is not being allowed to happen – and I have to ask myself why?’
SFA chief executive Stewart Regan said the governing body’s main motivation was to ensure the new owners would act in the best interests of the club and the game.
He added: ‘This will allow the season to kick off as planned this weekend and I am sure there will be many who will join me in welcoming the start of the new football season in Scotland.
‘In the months ahead, the Scottish FA will resume discussions on the subject of league reconstruction.’
SFL president Jim Ballantyne added: ‘Current events have thrown up some serious challenges to Scottish football and the SFL has played its part in trying to navigate through to a solution in difficult circumstances.
‘I am now looking forward to doing what we are actually here to do. To play football.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2180063/Rangers-granted-SFA-membership.html#ixzz265gLRRI1
“Quite apart from their negotiations with our consortium, I know the SPL were well advanced in their discussions with Mr Bill Miller and his representatives where EBT issues were raised and there was again an understanding that the EBT issue could be dealt with informally if new owners were to take over at Ibrox.”
===========================================================
Here lies the biggest conflict of interest of them all, when Charlie was representing both sides at the same time.
Green does not care about previous titles.
He is pretending to do so, in order that the fans and Ally are kept on side.
The titles have no monetary value.
He may fear having a fine imposed but I think it would have to be very substantial to bother him.
In fact, the RFFund may step in with a few quid if needed.
He is right about one thing ….. why has it taken the authorities so long to act?
I think we now see why the SFA should have been bringing the charges rather than the SPL.
The dual contracted players also took part in SFA ran cup competitions.
Forget the appellant body stuff, the SFA are the ruling body.
It looks like CG read my post last night!!
My understanding on the conditional licence to play football under the umbrella of the sfa;
Pay all football debts………………fail DUFC still await payment
Agree to abide by the findings of the dual contracts investigation……big fail
Accept the transfer ban……….they have signed two players since the window shut
Reveal Backers for FPPT………………I have no idea if this has happened
3 out 4 conditions Sevco are in material breach, hook the licence!!!
Absolute pseudo desperation from Greene, the end game is nigh – Ironically he wins! – what a script for a Mafia blockbuster.
Just when you think the blog is losing focus or impact along comes another stoater of a day.
More unbelievable stuff from CG and D&P, and then the blog comes into its own with great comments so far.
And the hard hitters haven’t commented yet.
Not to mention the anticipation of what’s still to come, e.g. any replies from SFA? SPL? Individual clubs? Any of the msm willing to poke their heads above the parapet? FTT news?
Love this site
Blindsummit says:
September 10, 2012 at 18:48
———–
No,QP played in 2 FA cup finals both v Blackburn Rovers and lost them both
Just when you think you’ve heard it all ……………..
………………tonight on Clyde the hack Hannah states “RFC declared every cough and spluter in their account up front”
Words fail me!
Do you think this statement by Green is an attempt to force the SFA to withdraw the licence to play football. In a few year’s time, he will be able to claim that it’s not his fault Ibrox is now a block of flats, the Albion car park is now a supermarket and the housing estate which now stands at Murray Park is a very nice place to live.
JJ says:
September 10, 2012 at 19:12
Just when you think you’ve heard it all ……………..
………………tonight on Clyde the hack Hannah states “RFC declared every cough and spluter in their account up front”
Words fail me!
————————————————————————————————————————
Bloody Iphone, should have read “RFC declared every cough and spluter re EBTs in their accounts up front”
Charles Green issue a statement saying, “I’m not coming you can’t touch us, we’re not in the SPL” on behalf of THE Rangers
Duff & Phelps issue a statement saying, “I’m not coming you can’t touch us, we’re not in the SPL” on behalf of Rangers.
SPL say “…………………………………………….”. That is certainly transparent.
According to SSB the SPL will not make a statement but the independent committee will make a statement, cop out again.
The phantom ThumbsDowner appears on the scene.
On behalf of the team I play for in the Paisley and District League, I’ve been
asked to make the following statement:
” The S.P.L. have no jurisdiction over us therefore we won’t be attending
their meeting tomorrow. As far as St.Mirrnoff are concerned they can punish us
all they like for this stance, but it will have no legal standing.
We have contacted them several times to explain our position but so far
their silence has been deafening.
We suspect dark forces and ulterior motives by certain un-named others
who aren’t us, but on this we shall not be moved. “
Surely the SPL can decide to remove the titles from their record books, SFA and UEFA likewise. They can then keep their non-existance titles.
Should have read the SPL etc record books.
After todays statements maybe the SFA & the SPL could publish ALL of the details contained within the “five way agreement”, it would then let us all know how corrupt the game in Scotland has become.
smallteaser says:
September 10, 2012 at 19:05
Have just heard Traynor on radio Scotland say that no one in authority is interested in stripping trophies, not the SFA or SFL prior to the SPL nor the SPL and he quoted Doncaster as the SPL source, can this possibly be correct.
They very thinly disguised a barb that Celtic are behind any desire for carrying things on, Traynor who is on with Murdo claims it should be ended now finished with and we should get on with the football, Murdo did not disagree with him.
iki says:
September 10, 2012 at 19:17
The phantom ThumbsDowner appears on the scene.
============================================
It’s very quick as well.!!
Murdo is a complete waste of rations, how he is allowed to steal from licence payers I’ll never know. Has he ever said anything other than the most predicable platitudes?
One last thing.
The most important game of this season takes place on the 25th of Sept in Celtic Park.
If ever the ordinary punter had an opportunity to have his/her voice heard, then this is the event to be at – and, of course, there is the small matter of a certain Mr Turnbull Hutton being in attendance – the saviour of Scottish football. Now come on Celtic supporters now is your chance to recognise a true hero of the Scottish game.
I take it the SPL reconstruction committee has just been dissolved?
timtim says:
———–
No,QP played in 2 FA cup finals both v Blackburn Rovers and lost them both
_______________________________________________________________
Oh, Ok thanks timtim, I never knew that. Appreciate the info.
Of course, it is the SPL’s OWN history that will be changed. Surely?