THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight


OccamApril 21, 2017 at 22:02  I bow to those with better …

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occamApril 21, 2017 at 22:02 
I bow to those with better knowledge in court matters but the last thing we want here is a mistrial for whatever reason.  I do not imagine, either , that any one individual or SFM wish to find themselves – even inadvertently – in contempt!  Remember, ignorance is no excuse! My inclination at this stage would be to hold fire, speculation and wishful thinking and do nothing to prejudice proceedings.  Patience and ‘the long game’ must be the priorities. Let the truth appear in due course!
Do you want truth or justice? They are not the same thing.

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THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight
SmugasMay 13, 2017 at 13:17    
Thanks EJ.  As I said, there is only one ST cake.  It doesn’t matter how you slice it up (and despite your best efforts and patience I confess to still being a little confuddled but that’s nothing new) it’s the same cake.  
Im off to a dark room with my slide rule and abacus!
I thought the point was that, prior to the Billionaire buy out, Murray owned the club and £6m of the cake was already sliced up and legally spoken for.

And when the cake required further slicing, to enable Whyte et al to acquire the company, it would not have been possible to do so without Murrays knowledge as Ticketus would have had to deal with him as he was the owner at the time.
My favourite cake is Carrot cake BTW.

THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight
PortbhoyMay 13, 2017 at 00:05
There you go BD, ….

Some good stuff in there about the tax case and how we are all biased. Not a single word or apology about how he lied to the BBC licence payer for all those years when he said he was an Airdire supporter.

The lies to the licence payers continue.

THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight
StevieBCMay 12, 2017 at 15:58 
Keef has retained his ‘Sports Journalist of the Year Award’ for an incredible 6th time.

Once Jim Traynor retired it left the way open for Keith to go for 10 in a row. There is now no competition and the awards ceremony is devalued because of it.

I miss Jim and his fine journalistic output and his Football Phone in where when he was in full Goebbels mode  (which coincided with Rangers going out of business)  Cosgrove was drafted in to babysit him.

Is anyone able to post a link to Jim’s last piece for the Record as it was a brilliant summatoin of the internet Bampots and their conspiracy filled outpourings.

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The Stella Dallas of Europe
upthehoops 12th August 2021 At 12:55

Rightly or wrongly (and there is no right or wrong anyway), people IMO will not shell out £600+ on a season ticket knowing half of it goes to clubs who only bring a couple of hundred fans to their ground.

Or in other words, as an Old Firm fan I’m not willing to help finance any improvement in Scottish football because we are fine as we are and have no real interest in creating competition. Diddy clubs with a few hundred fans should be left to rot.

It’s a false assumption. If the entertainment spectacle improved people would want to be there and even if it didn’t they wouldn’t be the best fans in the world if they weren’t there to get right behind their team and cheer them all the way to Hampden.

Here we go again
What the hell has gone wrong at Sellik?
Not seeing a lot about it on here.

Fergus McCann v David Murray
I was looking at the Celtic financials earlier and they seem to confirm my earlier thoughts on this (which I was shot down for in the days of the Thumbs Up/Down on here).

As a reminder, I said that because of such large overheads and dependence on Euro “success” an interuption of income and failure in Europe could create a financial issue. Despite cash reserves of some £28m.

Roll it forward 7 months and the issue is crystalising. Income at Champions League level has gone and Europa League progression looks uncertain. Hospitality, retail sales etc are all down. Player sale income in the period is almost equalled by purchases. The club has increased its debt facility to fill a revenue gap.

Post the accounts year end significant amounts have been spent on new talent in an attempt to secure 10 in a row.

Don’t get me wrong Sevco are no more financially secure than Celtic. In fact they must be struggling too. I will expand more on that later.

So, as tradition demands I have dealt with the two most important clubs in Scotch football first. I just cross my fingers and hope all of the rest survive as best they can.


Fergus McCann v David Murray
Cluster One 26th October 2020 at 21:46

reasonablechap 26th October 2020 at 09:52
I stopped listening to Superscoreboard years ago when DJ said lets wait and see what Ally spends the £10 mill on. After Green announced Ally would get £10 mill to spend in the lower leagues, that was enough delusion for me.

Frank in a matter of fact way used the term, Old Firm. However about a second or two later Frank realised this was a huge mistake for a Celtic fan on live radio and frantically tried to take it back.
Reminds me of a child using a swear word that they have just grown accustomed to hearing. If it is going to get rammed down youth throat as often as possible of course you are going to repeat it now and again.
The serious point being is that there are many Whilst they know they have to utter certain names and try to keep the old firm band wagon going as a general policy…. deep down they know .But if they want to keep a job they have to stick to the prefered script.


For a time I took on the onerous task of listening to Superscrotesboard on behalf of youse all and reporting back the Shugisms and Big Del's amateur PR mutterings.

I lapsed for a time during Lockdown but tonight I listened in and as you say Cluster the policy of slipping in a TRFC reference as part of the general policy into the farrago of assininity that passes for a show broke fresh ground tonight when it was extended to the Quiz. I say quiz but really I mean a test of knowledge for IMBECILES (apologies to any imbeciles on here who just read that last sentence).

One of the questions was:

"Which club has won the League Cup the most times?

It was such an easy one even I got it right. There can only be one answer thought I, it's Celtic. Imagine my surprise when Quizmaster Gordon somebody or other said it was Rangers with 27 wins.

I exclaimed loudly at the radio "That can't be right they've never won anything except the Petrocrap Cup". Alex Rae got the question right.

I should also report on the Rangers fan from Wishaw who called in 6 months late to declare that last season should have been declared "Null and Void". To be fair to Compere/Quizmaster Gordon he did say "goodness me I know the clocks went back at the weekend but I didn't think they went back all the way to March".

That was not enough to deter the Lanarkshire Bluesman who stated that were the League to end early this year and Rangers were top "they" would not call it and give them the title. Paranoia is alive and well in the Covid Age.

More Later I'm sure

Fergus McCann v David Murray
easyJambo 12th October 2020 at 17:19

I don't consider the author's take as being any different from that of RTC and many others who have commented on RFC's responses to HMRC enquiries.

We have also come across the document's author George Turner, several times previously.  He wrote for the Tax Justice Network (TJN) and the Offshore Game. His views have been consistent throughout.


Indeed but my point was more about others on here also making a submission to the enquiry along the same lines but asking why HMRC did not pursue the fraud allegations.

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