THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight


Why would the SFA or SPFL not want to strip …

Comment on THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight by valentinesclown.

Why would the SFA or SPFL not want to strip titles if the HMRC appeal is upheld.  It then is a matter of fact that players were playing/registered illegally.
 I have heard in court evidence that proves factually  that the wtc crystallized before the end on March deadline which means that RFC got a license to play in CL illegally.  Also that De Boar, Moore and Flo were registered illegally and every game they played in should have resulted in RFC losing 3 0.  Will all this be ignored by the SFA? 
Why do the SFA/SPFL not want to address this what reasons can they give.  This is a serious question, why can this liquidated club not be held to account in the history books for what they have done.
I wrote to my club in the past concerning the BTC and was informed that it was still an ongoing process.  I will write again if HMRC appeal is upheld as this is at present all I can do.

Nothing said in court proves anything factually. That’s for the court to decide. We may well hear other ‘facts’ that contradict those ones you refer to. It’s a mistake to draw conclusions too soon. Still 9 weeks of this trial to go.

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THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight
I have attended the Craig Whyte trial on a few occasions since it commenced.  I tend only to attend when Mr Findlay is cross examining the witnesses.  It is a joy to behold and is a gripping affair.  I have nothing but praise for people like James Doleman and others who tweet live as there is so much detail going on at all times.  Mr Murray and Mr Shanks from Lloyds are the witnesses I have watched being cross examined so far. My view at this early stage is that these witnesses have seemed at times very uncomfortable and during their time in the witness box and their testimony seems to be aiding in the defense of Mr Whyte, only IMO of course. I do recall that Mr Murray did not seem to recall quite a few thing when questioned (particularly in the content of Mr David Horne’s written notes and the third party funding paragraph in the final draft of the purchase.) and a few other things seemed to  his mind. It was a ding dong affair with Mr Findlay and Mr Shanks concerning the terms leverage, threatening  and pressure in relation to the bank and Mr Alistair Johnston on the RFC board.  Mr Findlay certainly won that wee battle and basically IMO the jury where left in no doubt of the banks stance. It is funny to here terms coming from Mr Findlay and the way he says them like, shambles of a playing squad, little tax bill left unpaid (but intent to pay), health and safety of the stadium and then he stated that the board Mr Murray left to run RFC did not have a clue how to run a football club.  It is the way he pauses and looks at the witness after making statements like that. Gripping stuff.
I will attend again at some point this week as it is like a magnet to me, and  just to be able to hear witness  evidence in court that we have always believed to have taken place and the smsm have never really addressed is karma. It is great to know that John Clark is going to attend when he can. 

THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight
I listened to  James Doleman concerning the High Court trial going on at present on the podcast and would like to thank him for that insight.  I have been following all his tweets from the court over the past 2 days and again would like to thank him. 
It is all so intriguing and thanks to social media this case seems to be reported without fear or favour.  I am going to attend the court on Thursday and Friday of this week, cannot help myself.

THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight
Great article AJ.  This OCNC has always got to be addressed as it is IMO the most important issue of a fan (the club’s history). Any other club and we would not be having this nonsense. Fans outside Ibrox believe they are new club for it is factually true. What is also factually true is the lengths our smsm and football authorities will go to  not actually say “The Rangers are a new club”.  We always have to push this for if we do not the sport becomes a mockery (close to it now imo). There must be fans of the Ibrox club who deep down know (but will never publicly say) they are a new club.  There will also be other fans of the WATP type who will force the lie that they are same club (and they openly say this). Our cowardly approach by the SFA and smsm feed the second opinion and this is what really hacks me of, the WATP mantra grows as a result of this. 
This could not happen in any other country with any other club, so why here and why with this club.  If you know your history may be the answer.

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Here we go again
So what is expected to happen now with SDI v Rangers (IL).
Will damages be paid out anytime soon. Is there another court date due. I only ask as I know this case will not be recorded/discussed by our msm.

Here we go again
I see RTC back on Twitter on same day as Sun comments on Mr McCann and his EBT bill of £700,000 having an effect on his divorce proceedings. Article actually states club went into administration followed by liquidation. Also stated Newco formed and had to enter third Div . Always good to here from RTC.

Moving On Time?
JC and Scotland's open Shame( The Big Lie ) is one of the main reasons I visit this blog. Change is most welcome but the continuing lie should always  take main stage imo.  This level of cheating with no punishment mocks every football fan in this country. To lose an EBT verdict at a SC (which confirmed that these payments were basically wages and these were not disclosed to SFA which meant roughly 55 players were registered illegally and the SFA to this day have not addressed this verdict in any way is absolutely disgraceful..More worrying is WHY they have not approached this level of cheating. Only in Scotland and only for one team. As mentioned at beginning thanks to John Clark and this blog.

Never forget the damage this club caused our game and still are imo.

Shame on our country  the SFA and smsm.

Sweet Little Lies
Great article Auldheid

This farce by RFC (IL) tribute act imo is to stop 9IAR even if it means bringing down our whole game and also to appease their raging  fans. That is it.

SC verdict (among several other issues concerning oldco) has never been dicussed by our smsm and the implications of the level of cheating by RFC ( IL) over a period of 13 years. Fact. They totally ignored this because simply they can. This is Scotland's open biased shame. 

Les Says It is Time to Ask The Audience?
I listened to BBCsportsound today and ND explained loans and advanced pre payments about 3 times.  ND in between the lines seemed a bit pissed of with this requisition and the EMG  taking place on 12 May (basically in his opinion wasting valuable time).  He really sounded convincing, and was really bemused of what case he had to answer to. I heard the SFA medical expert/doctor lay out the case that this season is vitually over. Now if on the 12 May the Ibrox club lose the  vote, which is very likely, then if I was ND I would state season over and award Celtic the title as soon as.   Ibrox club should not be delaying the planned future of our game. 

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