THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight


SmugasMay 13, 2017 at 13:17     Thanks EJ.  As I …

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SmugasMay 13, 2017 at 13:17    
Thanks EJ.  As I said, there is only one ST cake.  It doesn’t matter how you slice it up (and despite your best efforts and patience I confess to still being a little confuddled but that’s nothing new) it’s the same cake.  
Im off to a dark room with my slide rule and abacus!
I thought the point was that, prior to the Billionaire buy out, Murray owned the club and £6m of the cake was already sliced up and legally spoken for.

And when the cake required further slicing, to enable Whyte et al to acquire the company, it would not have been possible to do so without Murrays knowledge as Ticketus would have had to deal with him as he was the owner at the time.
My favourite cake is Carrot cake BTW.

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THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight
PortbhoyMay 13, 2017 at 00:05
There you go BD, ….

Some good stuff in there about the tax case and how we are all biased. Not a single word or apology about how he lied to the BBC licence payer for all those years when he said he was an Airdire supporter.

The lies to the licence payers continue.

THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight
StevieBCMay 12, 2017 at 15:58 
Keef has retained his ‘Sports Journalist of the Year Award’ for an incredible 6th time.

Once Jim Traynor retired it left the way open for Keith to go for 10 in a row. There is now no competition and the awards ceremony is devalued because of it.

I miss Jim and his fine journalistic output and his Football Phone in where when he was in full Goebbels mode  (which coincided with Rangers going out of business)  Cosgrove was drafted in to babysit him.

Is anyone able to post a link to Jim’s last piece for the Record as it was a brilliant summatoin of the internet Bampots and their conspiracy filled outpourings.

THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight
APRIL 28, 2017 at 12:32
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SMUGASAPRIL 28, 2017 at 12:28


You’re right, sorry my mistake.

He was out by a year but it was still post the sale.


Which then makes his earlier answer nothing more than a mix up with dates because as you say it was not before the sale. Funny how people get things wrong under pressure.

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Who Is Conning Whom?
wottpiNovember 30, 2017 at 12:14
JINGSO.JIMSIENOVEMBER 30, 2017 at 11:26 BOGS DOLLOXNOVEMBER 30, 2017 at 11:39
Regardless of the teams involved it is consistency we should be looking for.
Just watched T’Rangers v Aberdeen highlights.
End of first half Tavernier pulls back Gary Mackay Steven in a similar manner as occurred with Kipre-Sinclair at the weekend.
Just at the edge of the box. GMS stays on his feet. No foul given. Travenier then follows on and places his hands on GMS’s  back when he is in the box trying to get off a shot.
Intent to grab hold back, impede forward movement and contact all the same from the defender.
The difference and why no foul given? GMS as the attacker chooses to stay on his feet. (Good on him)
IMHO Refs are giving permission for players to become men of straw in the box.
Whilst I can take your point regarding the need for consistency I genuinely believe the issue is with impartiality and I have done for years. At best it may sometimes be an unconscious swaying of a decision by the influence of a big crowd at worst it is quite open favouritism and I’ve seen so much of it over the years.
At least with overseas refs the mistakes would be truly “honest”.

Who Is Conning Whom?
EASYJAMBONOVEMBER 30, 2017 at 10:13
Homunculus November 30, 2017 at 08:36Presumably you were at the game to have seen the incident, what actually happened.==========================I can’t answer for our latest troll, but I can say I wasn’t at the game, so can only go with the TV replays.
The blog is aptly named “Who Is Conning Who?”
How I saw it was that McGregor initiated contact by forcing his body between Rose and the ball, then immediately hit the deck, having made no attempt to play the ball and thus obstructed Rose in the process.  Willie Collum gave the penalty before McGregor completed his forward somersault.
How did you see it?
All of this diving to secure penalty kicks is undermining the integrity of Celtic and Scottish football in general. The standard of refs is also shocking. It’s about time we started using refs from overseas to ensure impartiality.

Enough is enough
upthehoopsNovember 9, 2017 at 07:19
AULDHEIDNOVEMBER 9, 2017 at 01:24  If a picture paints a thousand words what is this still from Mark Daly’s documentary on tax avoidance saying?
In my opinion it is saying that persons at the BBC (not necessarily Mark Daly), want to link Celtic’s name to tax avoidance even the story is nothing to do with the club.  They stressed often enough there was ‘nothing illegal’ about the story, but never once stressed the football club is not linked to it. The simple fact of life is the picture you show is enough for some people, either through ignorance, bias, or lack of intelligence, to assume Celtic have been caught embroiled in tax avoidance.  It is cheap journalism, and in my view quite sinister as well, but it is a result for those in the Scottish media who are desperate to find some sort of equivalence.  Over the past years we have had spurious and misleading headlines about state aid, and film company tax avoidance, and the BBC has been right there at the head of the queue.  
The more things change, the more they stay the same. 
Stuart Cosgrove was talking to John Beattie on Radio Shortbread earlier today about the “doorstepping” of prominent people during investigative journalistic projects. His view on Daly and Crick was that it is essentially “theatrical journalism” used because it attracts attention, in a visual way, to complex matters where there are large numbers of documents and it is not possible to present those to the viewer in a meaningful way.
He thought most of this approach was inappropriate (he didn’t agree with what Daly did re DD) because it usually ends in chasing people down the street shouting questions at them and adds nothing to the understanding of the viewer other than to create a visual spectacle where the target is seen to be evasive. Its an interesting take that I generally agree with.
Re Broadfoot – he really hasn’t got the right temprement or intellectual wherewithal to do the job he does. He’s way out of his depth with his adverserial approach which is completely counterproductive to the aims of his clients at the SFA. Others have said he shouldn’t be on the BBC because of they way he behaves. I disagree the more people hear from him, the more they grow to understand how useless he is and they start to wonder what all the bluster is designed to deflect from.

Enough is enough
I have yet to speak to a Celtic fan who supports super wealthy people avoiding tax that others have no choice but to pay.  I have also yet to speak to one who doesn’t believe the BBC are casually linking Celtic’s name to dodgy tax avoidance without making it clear the Dermot Desmond story is not linked in any way to the business affairs of the club. They have never shown any concern before as to what the Swiss taxpayer may or may not have lost out on. I only wish they showed the same concern regarding what many inhabitants of their Sportsound studio owe the UK taxpayer through undisputed unlawful tax avoidance. 
They know exactly what they are doing in my view. 

EJ has called it right Re DD. Your point about the BBC not taking the EBT tax dodgers to task is also valid but couched in such a way as to be interpreted as a deflection away from DD’s predicament.

Enough is enough
easyJamboNovember 4, 2017 at 00:47
melbournedee & Bogs Dollox ————————– Well you live and learn, I’ve always understood that the players contracts were included, not just the acquisition costs, as part of the intangible asset.
I guess that it makes sense to treat a player’s wage as being the cost associated with maintaining him as an asset, just like repairing the roof of a stand.
The asset being acquired by paying a transfer fee is the player registration not the player.

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