The Case for a New SFA.


“Are wi there yet?” “No lang noo.” With the confluence of so …

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“Are wi there yet?”

“No lang noo.”

With the confluence of so many negatives recently that may very well be the case.

Scottish Football needs a strong Arbroath. 

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The Case for a New SFA.
Just a quick word of thanks to BP for putting together last night’s meet-up. I was at a meeting earlier in the day where the guy in charge noted how we had successfully flexed the agenda to meet the demands of debate and audience input i.e. that we had grossly overrun.
The format last night certainly moved from formal to organic with ease….. I was getting concerned though after around 75 mins that BP was still on his intro…… 02
More seriously, it was a great opportunity to meet fellow posters and discuss a variety of subjects in an extremely constructive environment.
Look forward to the next one….
Scottish Football needs more nice guys like Jim Craig (Cairney) who also really know their stuff.

The Case for a New SFA.
It has been interesting reading the johnjames site and seeing some reality from the blue side peak through. I’m aware though that JJ is something of a lone voice and is also at times confused over some of the financial and legal aspects.

Today’s posting has some good and sensible stuff but is let down by things like :

“The solution here is simple. A new owner with a minimum of £15m to his name steps forward and pays off Ashley his £5m.”

Mmmm….RRM with those sort of funds have not exactly been queueing up to help over the past few years.

“We sell the land and move to a new stadium.”

What is the land actually worth especially with a stadium that will require careful and costly demolition? And who actually owns Ibrox? Who would buy land that is toxic in so many ways?

“We open our own outlet to sell our merchandising at the stadium and online, creating new brands if necessary.”

Mmmm…..I am sure MA and his colleagues at SD might have something to say about a competing merchandising operation.

“The concert party shares of Taylor, Park,Letham and King are bought for as little as possible to rid ourselves of another criminal. With their 34% and a deal done with Easdale for his shares, 60% equity could be acquired for less than £10m (20p per 1p ordinary share).”

And how is this great strategic plan to be brought off? Wishful thinking, I fear.

“Relocate to a new site in 2/3 years and if we can sell Auchenhowie to a developer, we could invest this money on the park. We cut a deal with Glasgow City Council. We move from Ibrox, freeing up this land for their plans, on the basis of allowing development at Auchenhowie. Should the assets revert to BDO, let them sort out the mess.”

Thought that they had sold the Ibrox land as an earlier part of the plan? Did they just mean the car park? But that is needed for use of part of Ibrox on match days. Is there not a planning/licencing issue over this?

JJ needs the input of some more thinking bears or perhaps he should participate in this site as it appears he has much more in common with views and ideas expressed here than he perhaps appreciates.

Scottish Football needs a strong Arbroath.

The Case for a New SFA.
John Clark 17th October 2015 at 1:31 pm # Not entirely off topic, I hope, but I listened earlier this morning to news that Bob Woodward, he of undying ‘Watergate’ fame, published a new book last week entitled, I think, ‘The Last of the President’s Men’.It is expected to be a best-seller by the end of this week, in the US at least.Apparently, he tracked down a chap ( who’s name I don’t remember from the reporting of the time), Alex Butterfield,….”
JC, Butterfield was the guy who let the cat out of the bag with regard to there being a taping system in place in the White House.
Scottish Football needs a good tape archive.

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Competition watchdog to probe Rangers and retailers over replica kits

By Henry Saker-Clark, PA City Reporter

1 hour ago

The UK competition watchdog has launched an investigation into Rangers FC and sportswear retailers over the price of replica football kits.

On Wednesday, the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) confirmed it has opened an initial inquiry into potential “anti-competitive behaviour”.

It said it is probing Rangers and Hummel, which manufactures the club’s kit, as well as retailers Greaves Sports and JD Sports.

The investigation process, which is expected to take six months, will look into suspected breaches of competition law, it said.

The regulator said: “At this stage the CMA believes that it has reasonable grounds to suspect one or more breaches of competition law.

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Re the accounts – page 46 has an interesting entry on a "debt for £2.278M due from a single debtor" . Is this a claim against Big Mike? Someone else? £2.278M is a lot of tat if that is what it relates to….

Hope they are right about it being recoverable.

If it's not recoverable then does their loss for the year go up to £19.74M, almost double the previous year (£11.277M)?

A slightly concerning direction of travel especially in today's pandemic and economic environment.

On the brighter side are they not now the world leaders in the production of confetti? 🙂    

Scottish Football needs a strong Arbroath.

Sweet Little Lies
Time for an SFM petition open to any other stakeholders to join?

"Scottish football supporters have no confidence in the SFA and SPFL."

Scottish Football needs to register dissatisfaction with the football authorities at this critical time.

Sweet Little Lies
Homunculus 19th May 2020 at 10:38

I believe the basic rule with any contract is that if there is an area of dubiety then it should be read to favour the party which did not draw up the agreement.

That could however just be something I got into my head, I have no way of substantiating it whatsoever. 

It might be called contra proferentem.


I’m with you on this Homunculus.

The Competition and Markets Authority might have something to say about that clause too.    (“Report a business behaving unfairly during the Coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak”)

Rangers* will have insurance to cover it anyway. Won’t they?

Scottish Football needs a strong Arbroath.

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Cluster One 18th May 2020 at 23:18

omunculus 18th May 2020 at 19:04
upthehoops 18th May 2020 at 18:51
Celtic and the ibrox club’s terms and conditions.
Celtic. If the club is umable to complete a match fixture to provide a result for the purpouse of the football authorities due to causes beyond the control of the club,and the match fixture is not re-scheduled, the holder will be compensated for any corresponding reduction in services.
The ibrox club. The club cannot eccept any liability for any expense incurred even in the event that the match is cancelled.


C1, I saw and commented on the Rangers* clause some time back. I’m not a lawyer but it didn’t seem to me to be a clear cut statement that there would be no refund if matches were cancelled. What it did say was that they accepted no responsibility for any “expense incurred even in the event that the match was cancelled’.

Does that imply that they DO have responsibility for a partial refund of the season ticket? If not, why not also make that crystal clear in the same clause?

Rangers* only appear to exclude a responsibility to cover an expense incurred. There was no definition of ‘expense’ or ‘expense incurred’ in the passage I saw. Does ‘expense incurred’ include the cost of the ticket? Is the “expense incurred” the costs resultant on the changed match timing or cancellation? Arguable I suspect – any legal precedent?

The Celtic* clause covering this seems fairly clear to me. “If the Club is unable to complete a match fixture to provide a result for the purposes of the football authorities due to causes beyond the control of the Club, and that match fixture is not re-scheduled, the Holder will be compensated for any corresponding reduction in services.” 

For reasons beyond Celtic’s control the matches cannot be completed and are not being re-scheduled = a refund.

Scottish Football needs a strong Arbroath.

Celtic* – joshing, folks… 🙂

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