The Continuing Voyage of Scottish Football – and the Wrath of Khan

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MacLeish coming out with usual sheeoit on ITV 4. …

Comment on The Continuing Voyage of Scottish Football – and the Wrath of Khan by coineanachantaighe.

MacLeish coming out with usual sheeoit on ITV 4. *Rangers suffered a sanction (not new co starts at bottom) SPL will struggle without them, maybe Rangers back sooner han 3 years .. maybe.

No challenge from reporter or anyone else, so lots of non-Scottish viewers swallow lies. At least it was brief.

*his word

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The Continuing Voyage of Scottish Football – and the Wrath of Khan
paulmac says:
August 23, 2012 at 15:42
Do people still think Celtic are correct to remain silent on this national disgrace?
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Not just Celtic surely – lots of clubs (though Celic being by far the biggest would I suppose have more clout).


The Continuing Voyage of Scottish Football – and the Wrath of Khan
In response to some of the more pessimistic posts on here recently. Yes, meet the new-co, same as the old-co … but not quite the same.

It has to work its way up the leagues (even if they let it skip a league) … its current finances are fine for div 3 and 2 but would find it harder for Div 1 and even harder for the SPL. Of course ST money will increase as they go up (provided their fans don’t get bored quickly) but I wonder how strong they can be after that even with a share issue.

The banking crisis fallout is likely to last for another 5 years atthe very least … who will give them a loan? They certainly nowhere near what they got from supplicant bankers in the past and certainly not without strong guarantees.

And there’s no way they can even think about dodging tax again. So with them likely to be chasing well behind Celtic (not a ‘tic fan by the way, this is just realistic) for a few years for a Championship place that kind of money is likely to be unavailable for a while.

Even if they can outspend other teams in the SPL, they won’t be (IMHO) be able to afford a team that will “roller-coast” over them as in the old days. They’ll have been out of the SPL for a while and the other teams have been there all the time (bar 1 or 2) and are used to the hard slog that it is for most teams.

Unless they find a really good manager I could see them struggle to get even the lesser European places – not saying they couldn’t just saying it will be harder than some folk think and if it is harder will the fans keep supporting to the necessary levels?

And this is without factoring in that the guys involved now will be more interested in getting money out of the club than producing a really strong New-Rangers. Yes, SPL would be good, if only for the TV money but beyond a club strong enough to be top of league challenger (but not by any means guaranteed to be in the top 2) I don’t think they’d be interested. Without the stuff they got away with in the past it would take too much investment and cut back profit.

BTW I totally expect a lot of the above to be shot down but hope it provokes some useful discussion.


The Continuing Voyage of Scottish Football – and the Wrath of Khan
Letters from official bodies are normally typed so should be capable of being (text) scanned – though the file may need a little editing in case bits don’t come out right.


Recent Comments by coineanachantaighe

It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One

JIMBODECEMBER 19, 2017 at 16:17

Thing is, some folk – in fact many – can be smart and talented in one field but quite dumb when it comes to other fields.  Even university professors.  It’s all about what you bother to learn about and how you apply what you learn (and it can be affected by laziness, arrogance, prejudice and so on).

These folk get the attitude that because they know a lot about one thing they have an attitude that their expertise automatically transfers into other spheres of which they know very little.  Of course Lambert knows about football – about playing it and coaching, but he doesn’t know anything about what been going on in Scottish football these last couple of decades and no doubt has given no more than a very superficial effort into trying to find out. 


Who Is Conning Whom?
Just had a quick browse through sheepish fan forums.  Seems a general inclination to back McInnes.  Also seems that statement from Rangers will have been very helpful to McInnes in getting continued backing from AFC fans.


Who Is Conning Whom?

BAD CAPT MADMANDECEMBER 6, 2017 at 01:44

While I think you may be right about this, the question is how do you prove it and who will pursue it even if some proof is found
The Football authorities will be unwilling and the thing is Rangers have always been able to “tap” people they want without using the usual under the table methods.  They have the whole SMSM to do that for them.  
My own feeling is while McInnes may have been a wished for target they may have already decided they can’t afford him, however the process has undermined a key opponent.  An official approach (one in which apparently they were unwilling to upfront the money as required) can be seen as them justifying what they did retrospectively. 
They may even believe there’s an outside chance with the SMSM help they can force Aberdeen to drop their demand for all the money upfront and that McInnes will jump ship.  But their main object will already have been achieved regardless.


Who Is Conning Whom?
Could this refusal by Aberdeen be not down to annoyance at TRanger’s unsettling their manager but due to TRangers’ being unwilling to show evidence of of ability/willingness to pay the compensation due.  (E.g. put all or large part of money due into 3rd party account??)


Enough is enough
@ JOHN CLARKNOVEMBER 8, 2017 at 11:22
I must really add that while what you are saying is absolutely true your particular emphasis seems to suggest that the BBC is reliable outside of football reporting.  I may be quite mistaken, if so apologies.  But I think it’s worth saying here that the BBC (and other media outlets) are very much establishment biased and not just in sport. 

For instance there’s a  bit of a rammy just about tax evaders in the MSM but this will pass quickly and the media will move on to other things.  On the other hand every week for years not only do you regularly see stuff about benefit cheats there are whole TV programs appearing about them creating the impression it is a massive problem when in fact the figure estimated by government for this is about 2% of those claiming benefits – and in fact many for various reasons don’t get benefits they are honestly due.   

Now if the papers had been filled every day for years with articles criticising tax dodgers and there was a weekly TV program on folk dodging tax I bet government might feel pressure to do more about it.  However the MSM know they can get away with brief attacks on the powerful creating the impression of even handedness when over a longer period they are anything but.  

I’d better stop here as I’m wandering way off-topic. 
Apologies if I bored some of you.  But to try to tie it to on-topic, don’t just think the pro-Ibrox bias is a purely a football thing, it’s part of a more general attitude in the MSM.

BTW JohnJames site has …well … a rant on this. Has a real go at the BBC.
https://johnjamessite.com/2017/11/08/come-fly-with-me/


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