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Why would any other fan dress up as a Trfc …

Comment on The Dismal Art of Whataboutery by rab.

Why would any other fan dress up as a Trfc supporter to attend a game at tannadice and fight with D Utd fans. We all have our rivalries but im not aware of any instances of real crowd trouble at Scottish grounds, maybe an odd missile thrower or a street battle between a few drunken bams, but not the kind of grievance that would encourage fans to team together, attend tannadice, dressed in blue and ransack Dundee or fight with any Trfc fans loitering nearby. I don’t know about anyone else, but i would never wear any Trfc colours. Ever.

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As you are sorting out your christmas tips for the paperboy, milkman or local companionship provider 😉 don’t forget your friendly blog moderators who work by candlelight, in freezing conditions with only stale bread and puddle water for sustenance to bring to you in your centrally heated homes and overstocked larders, a refreshing alternative to the succulent lamb fed ramblings of jacks minions.

In the spirit of the season should ole scrooge green change the sevco mantra to rangers past, rangers present, rangers future like the other ghosts.

Merry Christmas everyone.

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Why don’t we delay and hold TSFM xmas party in the away end at tannadice. A wee drink among friends, fitba to watch, boost for charity, support D Utd and a massive GIRUY to CG and the SFA.

Everyones a winner.

Taysider and Arabest could put us up.

I’ll get the first round in.

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No-one is demanding that everybody supports a boycott, no-one is being physically threatened if they dont support a boycott, i suspect that deep down most people are disappointed that such an extreme sanction is the only way that we will be offered the chance to state our opinions. The governing bodies seem desperate to allow sevco to assume rangers identity, in the top division as soon as possible, titles intact and lets all move on now and continue with the failed structure of a propped up dominant rangers, marketable with Celtic and the rest of the diddies as fodder. This is only acceptable to rfc/sevco fans, yet the voices of all other fans are not given a platform. The recent boycott debate is just exploring ways in which we can have our say ( not our way ), reasonable correspondance has proved fruitless so more extreme measures are being explored. No one is forced to agree or partcipate but ive yet to see another idea which gives us an opportunity for dialogue. Support it or dont support it, thats the individual choice, any other suggestions to increase fan inclusion will be taken on board and discussed so feel free to offer alternatives.

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Everything Has Changed
Hello everyone.

Im not at all surprised by today’s ruling, we all know why these decisions always go the way of the establishment club.

Thanks to everyone for the education, the debate and the laughs. Huge thanks for RTC for sharing his information that leaves me in no doubt about the reasons behind the tax scheme, and the subsequent deliberate cheating by rangers by withholding information from the SFA, who through men like Gordon Smith and Campbell Ogilvie, knew exactly what was being done at Ibrox. The rulers have allowed the perpetrators enough legal jargon to justify their deluded claims of continuing history, tax evasion innocence, and administrative errors. However, the rest of us recognise liquidation, rule breaking, corruption and cover ups when we see it, and we can all clearly see what has happened.

Celtic will always be my club, but money is not to be wasted on a corrupt sport, its now lost to the game.

I see no reason to debate reconstruction, other clubs finances, rule breaking within the game, the msm, or any aspect of Scottish football actually as its like swatting flies from a huge stinking pile of shit while ignoring the shit that causing the stink in the first place.

Maybe this will be posted ( glad i missed greenock jack ) to thank the guys who brought us together and gave us 1% crap and 99% truth.

Thank you all and goodbye.

A Question of Trust (Updated)
ianagain on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 at 14:24
Hope they got paid up front.

Field Fisher Waterhouse corporate finance partner Christine Phillips spent much of 2012 on one of the highest-profile deals of the year, advising Rangers FC.

Rangers’ assets have now been floated on the AIM-listing and the club has raised £22m to improve its facilities and capital and boost the squad after liquidation saw it go from its premier position among Scottish football clubs to a lowly place in the third division of the Scottish Football League.

“It was a business that supported a lot of other suppliers,” says Phillips, “so inevitably for any football club to struggle economically in any city it causes problems for a lot of local businesses.

.“It’s important that you feel you’re doing something constructive for the local economy and with that club it was such a massive brand with a very dedicated and loyal supporter base that it has also been very rewarding to think that you’re helping the survival of the club.”

The deal was a rewarding but trying one, with the club’s fortunes all the while in the public eye. The consortium led by Charles Green, the club’s former owner, attempted to structure assets as acompany voluntary arrangement to try and ensure the survival of the club and its Scottish premier League membership.

Key creditor HMRC refused to support this, which meant the construction of a newco and the subsequent vote by the Scottish Football League for Rangers to

join the third rather than first division.

Phillips has both secured admission to AIM and an offer to fans to buy shares in their club, the total value of which is now £45.6m. Her work will make her popular with at least half of Glasgow.


I dont know if this is badly worded or i am reading it wrong, but the part that says the deal was “lead by charles greens consortium, the clubs former owner”

is that not textbook pheonix trading and gratuitous alienation.

2012 in review
John Clarke.

Yes it was my own and thanks for the comment.

Can i suggest we get a room before one of the many fine wits on here makes that joke.


2012 in review
Who else thinks that Trfc quietly approached Celtic and asked them to remove the last ever OF game comment from the clubs website, and got told to bolt.

Its only since that comment appeared that Trfc have dared to mention Celtic in derogatory terms.

Celtic have never feared rangers, but have never been in a powerful enough position on their own to defeat the unholy trinity of rangers, sfa and msm. Now though, with practically ever other club and their support beside Celtic, we all have enough strength to see this through to a fair conclusion. This is not a typical Celtic v rangers issue where the msm can influence opinion and split the other clubs supporters into camps, or the sfa can rule in rangers favour and appear to have assessed the facts and decided Celtic where in the wrong. This is purely a right or wrong issue and the other clubs support can clearly see a right or wrong side.

And we are all right.

2012 in review
For clarity.

JT is the semi.

John Clarke is beyond reproach in my opinion.

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